[Frank Thacker]

fishini, on Dec 30 2006, 05:01 PM, said:

The club first announced that they were after a new ground in the 1984-5 season, which is 22 years from onset, I was saying this would be a record for a club to eventually achieve it's target of a new ground and for once this was not aimed at the CFSS

Add about 65 years to that, Fish; the club appointed no less an architect than Archibald Leitch to come up with a ground for Queen's Park Annexe in 1919 but dropped the idea when costs rocketed above £5,000.

[Wooden Spoon]

Saltergate Stu, on Jan 5 2007, 05:15 PM, said:

Add about 65 years to that, Fish; the club appointed no less an architect than Archibald Leitch to come up with a ground for Queen's Park Annexe in 1919 but dropped the idea when costs rocketed above £5,000.

the renowned architect who built prestons ground?

did he have anything to do with the current structure at saltergate?

completely un related question stu.

how did(if at all) events at saltergate under the fat pile of poo mirror events at aldershot and the 19yr old who took over?

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[Bankrobber]

death, on Jan 7 2007, 06:28 PM, said:

the renowned architect who built prestons ground?

did he have anything to do with the current structure at saltergate?

completely un related question stu.

how did(if at all) events at saltergate under the fat pile of poo mirror events at aldershot and the 19yr old who took over?

Sure Stu will correct me on this but i am sure the current main stand is a Leitch design - one of few remaining i would think.

[dalekpete]

fishini, on Jan 4 2007, 08:42 PM, said:

Thankyou. I like all hope we get some positive news on tuesday then, but I won't hold my breath til then but will cheer if it's good news

Expect an announcement (or two) at the CFC AGM. Many of the CFC Board will be at the CFSS AGM but it is not certain as yet what information, if any, will be disclosed there as BH will be saving it for the other meeting.

[forevablue]

dalekpete, on Jan 9 2007, 11:05 PM, said:

Expect an announcement (or two) at the CFC AGM. Many of the CFC Board will be at the CFSS AGM but it is not certain as yet what information, if any, will be disclosed there as BH will be saving it for the other meeting.

Would have made a lot of sense, unless you are an anorak, to have have had both meetings on the same night. I realise that there is a 'mixed audience' and only some peole are entitled to attend both.

However, if the CFC 2001 meeting had been held first at say a 6:30 to 7:00 start then the CFSS meeting could have followed at around 8:00 to 8:30 and then nothing would have to be held back at the CFSS meeting. Anyone eligible to attend the CFSS meeting, but who wished to, could have left after the first meeting.

I only say this from a persional note as I am entitled to attend both meetings; doing so is about the only current benefit for individuals apart from the financial assistance you are giving to the club. I will probably end up going to both as I am as keen as everyone else to get as much information as possible but with work added on I will be out 4 nights that week and working everyday as well. Mrs FB, or Miss Marple as another Paul used to refer to her on here, will be highly delighted with me!

See you all there hopefully.

[dalekpete]

forevablue, on Jan 9 2007, 11:31 PM, said:

Would have made a lot of sense, unless you are an anorak, to have have had both meetings on the same night.

The CFSS ballot has to be completed before the CFC AGM. We were keen to have the CFSS AGM with reps from both Boards present before that ballot closes.

[Wooden Spoon]

Bankrobber, on Jan 8 2007, 09:09 PM, said:

Sure Stu will correct me on this but i am sure the current main stand is a Leitch design - one of few remaining i would think.

i think it is, but i wouldnt put money on it.

is craven cottage of the same genre? if not, there may be some architectural heritage to save at saltergate.

[forevablue]

dalekpete, on Jan 10 2007, 12:07 AM, said:

The CFSS ballot has to be completed before the CFC AGM. We were keen to have the CFSS AGM with reps from both Boards present before that ballot closes.

Well, if it wasn't practical to have them on the same night why not spread them a bit? Don't want to go over old ground but we are fans owned club for the time being so why not treat those people in the way that they deserve?

[Town_Fan]

dalekpete, on Jan 10 2007, 12:07 AM, said:

We were keen to have the CFSS AGM with reps from both Boards present before that ballot closes.

Just a shame the ex chairman wasnt as keen eh? We could have had all this sorted out and the new set up in place but yet again the actions (or specifically inaction) of CFSS has had an effect in real terms on the club.

[fishini]

forevablue, on Jan 11 2007, 01:12 AM, said:

Well, if it wasn't practical to have them on the same night why not spread them a bit? Don't want to go over old ground but we are fans owned club for the time being so why not treat those people in the way that they deserve?

Who the CFSS treat the fans with respect your'e having a laugh are you not? Never have done why start now? But don't worry with a bit of luck they won't be here much longer

[fishini]

Town_Fan, on Jan 11 2007, 10:46 AM, said:

Just a shame the ex chairman wasnt as keen eh? We could have had all this sorted out and the new set up in place but yet again the actions (or specifically inaction) of CFSS has had an effect in real terms on the club.

Which makes me laugh when they quote May 2008 for the ground knowing this club they won't have planning permission by then. Pete seems to think that they have done well in the time to have the New Ground in the advanced stage it is, only 3 1/2 years, that 3 1/2 years and we have no planning, no land and no final design they move like lightening, and thats not taking into account that it first started in 1985. Thats why this club has not moved forwards ever it's riddled with apathy through the club and especially the fans who seem to have as much ambition as the CFSS and CFC boards who both seem happy to finish 5th from bottom every year. Shame on them all!

[Mr.Spireite]

fishini, on Jan 11 2007, 02:33 PM, said:

Which makes me laugh when they quote May 2008 for the ground knowing this club they won't have planning permission by then. Pete seems to think that they have done well in the time to have the New Ground in the advanced stage it is, only 3 1/2 years, that 3 1/2 years and we have no planning, no land and no final design they move like lightening, and thats not taking into account that it first started in 1985. Thats why this club has not moved forwards ever it's riddled with apathy through the club and especially the fans who seem to have as much ambition as the CFSS and CFC boards who both seem happy to finish 5th from bottom every year. Shame on them all!

Don't forget that whilst other clubs were investing free money from the football trust into getting their grounds up to a decent state Norton Lea was taking the expensive route of a new ground. So we lost out on millions of funding...

[Bankrobber]

Mr.Spireite, on Feb 22 2007, 10:39 AM, said:

Don't forget that whilst other clubs were investing free money from the football trust into getting their grounds up to a decent state Norton Lea was taking the expensive route of a new ground. So we lost out on millions of funding...

Where from and how much?

The club still have access to the Football Foundation grants.

[Frank Thacker]

death, on Jan 7 2007, 06:28 PM, said:

the renowned architect who built prestons ground?

did he have anything to do with the current structure at saltergate?

completely un related question stu.

how did(if at all) events at saltergate under the fat pile of poo mirror events at aldershot and the 19yr old who took over?

I've only just seen this! The ground thing has been answered since, but as for the the Aldershot one; I understand / dimly remember that Spencer Trethewy was trumpeted as some sort of saviour but was a fantasist. He arrived at Aldershot with an affadavit for 200k, which he used to borrow money to prop the Shots up, but he had no means of paying the loans back.

I notice that Wiki says he was convicted of fraud and sent down for 2 years in 1994. This may have been related to his staying in a posh London hotel and legging it without paying the bill.

My memory of it is feeling that he was not in it to feather his own nest, as Brown was, but I think I thought he'd done it for the reflected glory of being a FC chairman. A nut-job, rather than an evil criminal mastermind, and up there with the Knightons and Gellers of the football world, rather than the Browns and someone else who's vaguely local.

[Mr.Spireite]

Bankrobber, on Feb 22 2007, 06:56 PM, said:

Where from and how much?

The club still have access to the Football Foundation grants.

You could claim about 95% of rebuild costs....

Afraid it's not there now because all the clubs got this that redeveloped imediately after Hillsborough as it was government funded.

So yes, you can still get grants but nowhere near as lucrative.