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#1 Guest_NOKIN_*

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:15 PM

Just send our Toby Perkins an email, its something I feel quite strongly about..

Hi Toby,

As a serving soldier for over 24 years I was obliged to undergo Compulsory Random Drug Tests.

As servicemen and women we were often in the position of making important decisions, some life and death, therefore a clear, sober mind was all important, particularly when handing weapons. I therefore always agreed with the policy of random drugs testing.

Recent events in the media have highlighted an instance of a member of the House of Lords actively taking cocaine which has lead him to resign his position as a police investigation commences.

A quick search on Google shows this is not an isolated incident among politicians which beggars belief. Politicians, as I am sure you will agree, are in a very privileged and trusted position. They are after all making important decisions on behalf of those who voted them in. The last thing the public should accept is drug taking within British politics.

As in all walks of life and all professions drug taking is a reflection of society and it is inevitable that people in positions of trust could at some point become involved in it. It was the same when I was in the Army. However in the Army we were tested and if we were found to be taking drugs then an Administrative discharge was the course of action taken. In my 24 years service, I only ever knew of 4 people found guilty of taking drugs and getting discharged therefore it did act as a deterrent.

How would you feel about random drug testing of British politicians? I dont know if it happens in any other public service i.e. the Police, Fire Service etc but if it does, then surely those who run our country should under go random tests too?

Your views would be appreciated.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 01:25 PM

A great idea and logically a very sound argument, but ultimately, the elite make the rules and turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

Edit: Why not start a petition on change.org? The time is right to gather support for this idea, and if it gets over 100k signatures I think Parliament have to debate the subject.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 02:47 PM

If drug testing was brought in for the NHS, we'd have a severe shortage of doctors and nurses
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Posted 28 July 2015 - 02:50 PM

View PostSiberian Spireite, on 28 July 2015 - 01:25 PM, said:

A great idea and logically a very sound argument, but ultimately, the elite make the rules and turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

Edit: Why not start a petition on change.org? The time is right to gather support for this idea, and if it gets over 100k signatures I think Parliament have to debate the subject.

I would start a petition if I knew how.
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Posted 28 July 2015 - 02:54 PM

View PostNOKIN, on 28 July 2015 - 12:15 PM, said:

Just send our Toby Perkins an email, its something I feel quite strongly about..

Hi Toby,

As a serving soldier for over 24 years I was obliged to undergo Compulsory Random Drug Tests.

As servicemen and women we were often in the position of making important decisions, some life and death, therefore a clear, sober mind was all important, particularly when handing weapons. I therefore always agreed with the policy of random drugs testing.

Recent events in the media have highlighted an instance of a member of the House of Lords actively taking cocaine which has lead him to resign his position as a police investigation commences.

A quick search on Google shows this is not an isolated incident among politicians which beggars belief. Politicians, as I am sure you will agree, are in a very privileged and trusted position. They are after all making important decisions on behalf of those who voted them in. The last thing the public should accept is drug taking within British politics.

As in all walks of life and all professions drug taking is a reflection of society and it is inevitable that people in positions of trust could at some point become involved in it. It was the same when I was in the Army. However in the Army we were tested and if we were found to be taking drugs then an Administrative discharge was the course of action taken. In my 24 years service, I only ever knew of 4 people found guilty of taking drugs and getting discharged therefore it did act as a deterrent.

How would you feel about random drug testing of British politicians? I dont know if it happens in any other public service i.e. the Police, Fire Service etc but if it does, then surely those who run our country should under go random tests too?

Your views would be appreciated.

Best regards



In my current employment we are subjected to annual testing, as well random "on the spot" testing. A minimum of 10% have to be tested randomly through the year. Also, any safety incident immediately requires all staff involved to be tested within 24 hrs.




It would be interesting to see a reply, should you get one - but then again, if the recent expenses and second homes scandals, as well as reports about high profile paedophiles in the chamber being protected are anything to go by, I wouldn't expect anything from your letter/email



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 04:34 PM

View PostNOKIN, on 28 July 2015 - 02:50 PM, said:

I would start a petition if I knew how.

It's an electronic petition- just go to

https://www.change.o...tart-a-petition

...and it will take you through, step by step. It's easy enough to do, and free. Random drug testing for MPs seems a worthwhile idea to me.
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Posted 28 July 2015 - 06:17 PM

Done,

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 07:18 PM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 28 July 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

In my current employment we are subjected to annual testing, as well random "on the spot" testing. A minimum of 10% have to be tested randomly through the year. Also, any safety incident immediately requires all staff involved to be tested within 24 hrs.




It would be interesting to see a reply, should you get one - but then again, if the recent expenses and second homes scandals, as well as reports about high profile paedophiles in the chamber being protected are anything to go by, I wouldn't expect anything from your letter/email

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 08:24 PM

What was your thinking behind sending that email?
Obviously would never happen (and it shouldn't )
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Posted 28 July 2015 - 09:13 PM

View PostNOKIN, on 28 July 2015 - 06:17 PM, said:

Done,

Petition

Great! Signed.
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Posted 28 July 2015 - 09:19 PM

View PostSiberian Spireite, on 28 July 2015 - 09:13 PM, said:

Great! Signed.

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View Postcalvin plummers socks, on 28 July 2015 - 08:24 PM, said:

What was your thinking behind sending that email?
Obviously would never happen (and it shouldn't )

Without wishing to sound stupid, surely the reason for sending the email was in the actual email?
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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:32 AM

How long does, say, cocaine stay in one's system for? Just did a brief online search and it said anywhere from 12-72 hours, that sound about right? Just wondering cos it's not the widest window of opportunity to catch someone (though I suppose if someone's addicted it would work).

I dunno, I'm on the fence about this one. There are some drugs Im not sure should be illegal, in fact looking at things in the most objective way I can, as someone who drinks heavily most Saturdays I think alcohol should be made illegal ahead of certain drugs (obviously this wouldn't work at all in practice).

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:44 AM

Legalise the lot, let's have a party!
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Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:34 AM

Signed. I think if you can get this "out there" there would be a lot of support for it.
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Posted 29 July 2015 - 12:54 PM

Its just getting it out there that's the problem I suppose. I've put it on Facebook and Twitter, it jus a case of relying on other folk to share and retweet it.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:44 PM

View PostNOKIN, on 29 July 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

Its just getting it out there that's the problem I suppose. I've put it on Facebook and Twitter, it jus a case of relying on other folk to share and retweet it.

Fingers crossed.

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 07:14 AM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 29 July 2015 - 09:44 PM, said:

E mail the sun and the other red tops

I just couldn't bring myself to converse with such an organisation. Red tops make me cringe
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Posted 31 July 2015 - 03:11 PM

View PostNOKIN, on 31 July 2015 - 07:14 AM, said:

I just couldn't bring myself to converse with such an organisation. Red tops make me cringe

Send it to the Indy and the Telegraph they'll run it!
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Posted 31 July 2015 - 04:43 PM

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I just couldn't bring myself to converse with such an organisation. Red tops make me cringe


Posted Image ..... Yeah there is that....but they love bashing the MP/lords.
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Posted 10 September 2015 - 11:26 AM

Well I did get a letter back from our illustrious Member of Parliament for Chesterfield The Rt Hon Toby Perkins who thanked me for my email but declined to support any action to randomly test politicians for drug use. He went on to say that politicians are scrutinized enough as it is and that any politician who do uses illegal drugs will more than likely get caught anyway.

Personally, I believe that getting yourself honey trapped by a newspaper isn't much of a deterrent.

Pretty much the response you'd expect from a politician I suppose.

Oh well, I did try...
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