[spireitetoo]

https://twitter.com/...Wh9hi1heoQ&s=19



Horrendous.. 😳

[mr. smith]

spireitetoo, on 04 September 2023 - 07:53 PM, said:

https://twitter.com/...Wh9hi1heoQ&s=19



Horrendous.. 😳

thoughts & prayers.

[Fit as a Nelson]

Christ, thought this Twitter link was going to take me to that Ian Evatt video.

Edit - the one where he’s got his chopper out.

This post has been edited by Fit as a Nelson: 04 September 2023 - 08:16 PM

[spireitetoo]

Fit as a Nelson, on 04 September 2023 - 08:16 PM, said:

Christ, thought this Twitter link was going to take me to that Ian Evatt video.

Edit - the one where he’s got his chopper out.

Even I'm not daft enuff to post that, ... can't believe he's done that.. what a.. err... c0ck!!

[Fit as a Nelson]

spireitetoo, on 04 September 2023 - 08:20 PM, said:

Even I'm not daft enuff to post that, ... can't believe he's done that.. what a.. err... c0ck!!

Who is Amy? That’s what I want to know.

[spireitetoo]

Fit as a Nelson, on 04 September 2023 - 08:23 PM, said:

Who is Amy? That’s what I want to know.

I dare say, his Mrs is asking the same thing.

[ash_cfc]

It’s years old, apparently.

[Goku]

Just for you Amy… just for you

[Jud]

Quaker, on 05 September 2023 - 07:53 AM, said:

There are people amongst us who judge stuff like this to be OK as its "all part of the game". If it gets a player sent off they are happy.


Cheating is becoming a cancer within the sport, I absolutely hate to see it.

I absolutely see your point, Quaker. And if one of our lot did this, I'd be disgusted. Problem is, I'd be even more disgusted if someone did it against us. Such is the bias the vast majority of us have. Remember our own Mr Jones and his fish-out-of-water flopping about against Blades? I was embarrassed. But then I was also pleased when it resulted in a red for Higdon (was him, wasn't it). Hypocrisy is rife and I'm just as guilty!

[danblue]

Quaker, on 05 September 2023 - 07:53 AM, said:

There are people amongst us who judge stuff like this to be OK as its "all part of the game". If it gets a player sent off they are happy.


Cheating is becoming a cancer within the sport, I absolutely hate to see it.

Problem is you'll never get rid of it whether a player feigned injury, time wasting the old 'felt a touch' and rolls about.
It's all through every league in every country and then you'll be asking the players who will want to win at any cost to be 100% honest when on the pitch.
Refs have been asked to add on time wasted which they have done, but unless every ground has VAR and have competent staff manning it for any play acting, crafty pull backs ect ect , you'll never totally eradicate it.
So, when I see Dobra acting up, I now don't mind as much. But I'm with you on hating cheats, I'm just learning to live with it

[danblue]

Jud, on 05 September 2023 - 08:03 AM, said:

I absolutely see your point, Quaker. And if one of our lot did this, I'd be disgusted. Problem is, I'd be even more disgusted if someone did it against us. Such is the bias the vast majority of us have. Remember our own Mr Jones and his fish-out-of-water flopping about against Blades? I was embarrassed. But then I was also pleased when it resulted in a red for Higdon (was him, wasn't it). Hypocrisy is rife and I'm just as guilty!

I thought Dan Jones' 'fish out of water' skit was one of the funniest things I've ever seen that I actually belly laughed.

[Jud]

danblue, on 05 September 2023 - 08:07 AM, said:

I thought Dan Jones' 'fish out of water' skit was one of the funniest things I've ever seen that I actually belly laughed.

Oh it was hilarious, Dan 😄 But hilarious in an Office Christmas Special cringe-fest type way and if it had occurred the other way round, I'd have been pi§ed haha!

[JonB]

Quaker, on 05 September 2023 - 07:53 AM, said:

There are people amongst us who judge stuff like this to be OK as its "all part of the game". If it gets a player sent off they are happy.


Cheating is becoming a cancer within the sport, I absolutely hate to see it.

Not just football but many sports and its because of the pressure that is on teams\athletes to win that is likely causing it. In recent years we've had the Aussie cricket team using sandpaper on the ball, failed drug tests in various sports among plenty of things going off. There is such high pressure on players, athletes, managers, coaches etc to be successful that things are crossing the line. For many if they dont succeed they are likely out of a job etc.

[danblue]

Jud, on 05 September 2023 - 08:24 AM, said:

Oh it was hilarious, Dan 😄 But hilarious in an Office Christmas Special cringe-fest type way and if it had occurred the other way round, I'd have been pi§ed haha!

Agreed 😆

[JonB]

Quaker, on 05 September 2023 - 09:09 AM, said:

In most other sports, people are banned for cheating, in football it’s encouraged. There lies the difference.

There was a process introduced to retrospectively ban players in cases of simulation, players can be booked for simulation etc but the refs\authorities dont follow through with it. As usual they have a bit of a run at it for a while then it goes off the radar. The punishments are there to tackle it but they dont do it. Few at the top level where it should be even easier with multiple TV angles and VAR to punish it but it doesnt happen.

[clarevoyant.]

Quaker, on 05 September 2023 - 10:17 AM, said:

Hence why I said its encouraged, there is no deterrent.

I've been banging on about this for what seams like yonks. Probably since a game against the cobblers when their blatant time wasting from minute 1 went totally unchallenged by the ref.
There have been many boring outbursts by myself, since, mainly following games against the usual suspects. Seeing coaches encourage some of the antics we've witnessed from Bromley, Ebbsfleet, soilyhull and BW and even worse using (professional) medics to cheat is in my mind beyond reproach (but not NL governing body).

When the powers that be of a club, resort to such tactics as soilyhull did in our play off game and get away with it, what discouragement is there for coaches to rein it in a bit?

How long will it be before some astute club, who are hanging on in added time organise it's mercenaries to conduct "a special military operation" Perhaps Odious Athletic have already got a "Pat Pending " filed.

The bottom line is, we pay our money for 90 minutes football are we foolish in expecting, like in other entertainments to get something like what's advertised ie football and 90 minutes of it?

[Osborne again]

clarevoyant., on 05 September 2023 - 11:00 AM, said:

I've been banging on about this for what seams like yonks. Probably since a game against the cobblers when their blatant time wasting from minute 1 went totally unchallenged by the ref.
There have been many boring outbursts by myself, since, mainly following games against the usual suspects. Seeing coaches encourage some of the antics we've witnessed from Bromley, Ebbsfleet, soilyhull and BW and even worse using (professional) medics to cheat is in my mind beyond reproach (but not NL governing body).

When the powers that be of a club, resort to such tactics as soilyhull did in our play off game and get away with it, what discouragement is there for coaches to rein it in a bit?

How long will it be before some astute club, who are hanging on in added time organise it's mercenaries to conduct "a special military operation" Perhaps Odious Athletic have already got a "Pat Pending " filed.

The bottom line is, we pay our money for 90 minutes football are we foolish in expecting, like in other entertainments to get something like what's advertised ie football and 90 minutes of it?

This all started way back in the 1960s, with Latin American sides, both domestic and national, carrying out all the usual shenanigans. It has now covered the globe like some sort of cheating plague. Even school kids do it nowadays.
Could we stop it, yes maybe, are going to, not while the power mad vultures running FIFA, UEFA, and our domestic game are still there.