[lindave]

Just listened to some of Mad dogs interview on FB, 33mins in he spoke well of Town as a Club and its fans. He said we are a massive Club who will come back into the EFL. Loved the man when he first came here, there was so much positivity all around the Club. Just a pity it didn't work out on the pitch. Shezza came in and savoured us last year then took us to an all time low, where he seemed to lose the plot. I'm feeling a bit of a buzz since Pembo came in, the players and fans are as one and I believe, given the backing of the new owners that he get us pushing for a promotion place in the new season.

[DMU Blue]

We were absolutely crap from the word go under MA.

The self written press releases were cringy and summed up how tin pot we’ve been.

It’s a no from me

[lindave]

DMU Blue, on 27 April 2020 - 06:16 PM, said:

We were absolutely crap from the word go under MA.

The self written press releases were cringy and summed up how tin pot we've been.

It's a no from me

But brought in a lot of ST sales and for a time at the beginning he gave the fans a buzz/

[calvin plummers socks]

Had all the right credentials when he came.
Great bloke and really loved the Club

[Westbars Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 27 April 2020 - 06:39 PM, said:

Had all the right credentials when he came.
Great bloke and really loved the Club

Shame he was a fraud professionally.

[calvin plummers socks]

Westbars Spireite, on 27 April 2020 - 06:51 PM, said:

Shame he was a fraud professionally.

Bit harsh.
Just didn’t work out for him.

If every manager who failed was called a fraud it would be a very bad thing.
He’s not the greatest manager ok and he signed some really really poor footballers. We still have some really really poor footballers sadly

[Westbars Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 27 April 2020 - 06:53 PM, said:

Bit harsh.
Just didn’t work out for him.

If every manager who failed was called a fraud it would be a very bad thing.
He’s not the greatest manager ok and he signed some really really poor footballers. We still have some really really poor footballers sadly

I think the cap fits in his case.

[Stockholm Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 27 April 2020 - 06:53 PM, said:

Bit harsh.
Just didn’t work out for him.

If every manager who failed was called a fraud it would be a very bad thing.
He’s not the greatest manager ok and he signed some really really poor footballers. We still have some really really poor footballers sadly

The "it just didn't work out for him" thing is what DA said. And it's rubbish.

Personality-wise, he was the polar opposite of Caldwell, who we were still reeling from. So anything *not* like Caldwell would always be a plus. His own announcements were cringeworthy and a poor attempt to ingratiate himself with the fans.

He signed crocks.
He signed crocks on big money.
He signed crocks on big money who saw out their contracts or were paid up.
He signed his friend's son, whose whole game was based on a long throw.
He played square pegs in round holes.
He played an awful style and brand of football.
He committed the club to further financial problems with his signings and departure.

Why's he writing something now - out of work ever since? Wants to sneak back for a hundredth go at crippling a club?

No mate, it's too simple to say it just didn't work out.

He shares two traits that AC has shown since his arrival: as much use as a marzipan d1ldo and everything he touched turned to $hit.

[Spire-Power]

DMU Blue, on 27 April 2020 - 06:16 PM, said:

We were absolutely crap from the word go under MA.

The self written press releases were cringy and summed up how tin pot we’ve been.

It’s a no from me

Not from word go. We won first 3 games and destroyed Aldershot. Place buzzing and Charlie Carter on fire. Then it all went horribly wrong...

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

calvin plummers socks, on 27 April 2020 - 06:53 PM, said:

Bit harsh.
Just didn’t work out for him.

If every manager who failed was called a fraud it would be a very bad thing.
He’s not the greatest manager ok and he signed some really really poor footballers. We still have some really really poor footballers sadly

He turned out to be the village idiot

[moondog]

calvin plummers socks, on 27 April 2020 - 06:53 PM, said:

Bit harsh.
Just didn't work out for him.

If every manager who failed was called a fraud it would be a very bad thing.
He's not the greatest manager ok and he signed some really really poor footballers. We still have some really really poor footballers sadly

Good Salesman, poor football Manager

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

moondog, on 28 April 2020 - 05:27 AM, said:

Good Salesman, poor football Manager

In a nutshell.

Let's not be hypocrites here; many knew his record for one dimensional football but, as with Johnny No Goals, were prepared to tolerate it in exchange for results.

An equation the first three games seemed to confirm.

But when it went wrong the bloke didn't have a clue what do next...

[Mr Mercury]

moondog, on 28 April 2020 - 05:27 AM, said:

Good Salesman, poor football Manager

We had a great start then over the space of a cpl of weeks he had some atrocious bad luck, Wedgebury out for the season, Carter, who'd been a bit of a star, virtually out all season, Talbot, surprise, surprise..out all season..then the horrible illness to his assistant and managerial partner which I think left MA shell shocked in the extreme. Would any of that have made a difference I honestly don't know, but they were a series of hammer blows we, and probably MA himself, never recovered from.

[whittman]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 27 April 2020 - 10:45 PM, said:

He turned out to be the village idiot

Bit harsh he was genuine in wanting us to succeed

I think the illness to Adrian Whitbread so soon into the season imo had a bigger effect on the club than was realised at the time

It happened on the day of the Aldershot home match and martin Allen had to tell a lie to the players before the match to explain his absence

After that match everything seemed to go so wrong when we could not buy a win even though at times we hammered sides at home without adding the finishing touches in the area

the late Martin Edinborough stated that our opening 20 minutes spell against them at the Proact was the most pressure his side came under that season

I have just listened to Martin Allens interview and he spoke well of the club the ground training ground and the fans unlike some of the other clubs he has managed at

[Sammy Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 27 April 2020 - 06:39 PM, said:

Had all the right credentials when he came.

I have, and will continue to argue this I think too many people were blinded by his "no-nonsense" approach rather than his actually performance.

I said at the time, and I keep bring it up, in his 20(ish) years in management hed'd only started and finished a season with the same club 3 times.

And his 'success' (uncluding saving teams from releagtion) came when he took over other managers failing squads and 'charmed' some results out of them.

Given a pre-season to build a squad, he'd generally got the sack (or jumped) mid-season, exactly what happened here.

[DIFH]

Westbars Spireite, on 27 April 2020 - 06:51 PM, said:

Shame he was a fraud professionally.

MA was allowed to 'use' our club in desperate times to give incredible deals to players way past their capabilities as required by average professionals. Nelson an absolute disaster, he may have been fit as a dog but he was fuc**d when it came to running and turning. Curtis Weston 3yr deal !!! who only this season has shown a modicum of consistency.

All this mirrored by Shez in his second spell, desperate times again and we get Gerrard a clone of Nelson. The old pals act by both managers, it really defies logic when players are brought in such as these two. Both managers experienced in the hiring and sacking game who maybe accept a good opportunity outweighed by the eventual outcome and who are hard nosed enough to accept the sheet that comes with the job.

Pemberton seems a different type to both MA and Shez but is in a position where he's looking to promote his credentials with the opportunity that he's fashioned since taking over the hot seat.

[CFC91]

Probably go for a pint with him, wouldnt rate him as a manager. We signed some rubbish, played some rubbish and was just generally rubbish.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Sammy Spireite, on 28 April 2020 - 10:27 AM, said:

I have, and will continue to argue this I think too many people were blinded by his "no-nonsense" approach rather than his actually performance.

I said at the time, and I keep bring it up, in his 20(ish) years in management hed'd only started and finished a season with the same club 3 times.

And his 'success' (uncluding saving teams from releagtion) came when he took over other managers failing squads and 'charmed' some results out of them.

Given a pre-season to build a squad, he'd generally got the sack (or jumped) mid-season, exactly what happened here.

You did, pal.

Spot on, too.

[Search & Destroy]

Spire-Power, on 27 April 2020 - 07:49 PM, said:

Not from word go. We won first 3 games and destroyed Aldershot. Place buzzing and Charlie Carter on fire. Then it all went horribly wrong...

The sending off at Barrow, then it all went wrong, the loss at Harrogate and it went on and on

[Mr Mercury]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 28 April 2020 - 11:27 AM, said:

You did, pal.

Spot on, too.

He did Chris and it set the alarm bells ringing for me as well, but, that doesn't mean it would happen here, turns out it did but I still maintain the two week nightmare of bad luck we suffered very early in the season had a major impact on things, particularly the illness to AW.