[turrhall]

Lads, can't believe I have to say this, but you do know that Hitler never won a fair election right?

Came second to von Hindenburg in '32 in the presidential election, and the nazis didn't win a parliamentary majority until they were unopposed in late '33, post-reichstag fire.

On Farage, as I've said before, he's undoubtedly the most successful UK politician of this century - taken a fringe position on EU membership, made it mainstream and changed the consensus. The guy is obviously a bell end but you can't argue he's not been effective.

This post has been edited by turrhall: 10 May 2024 - 09:59 PM

[isleaiw1]

turrhall, on 10 May 2024 - 09:58 PM, said:

Lads, can't believe I have to say this, but you do know that Hitler never won a fair election right?

Came second to von Hindenburg in '32 in the presidential election, and the nazis didn't win a parliamentary majority until they were unopposed in late '33, post-reichstag fire.

On Farage, as I've said before, he's undoubtedly the most successful UK politician of this century - taken a fringe position on EU membership, made it mainstream and changed the consensus. The guy is obviously a bell end but you can't argue he's not been effective.

Hitler may not have won a fair election but he was very successful in terms of achieving his objectives - at least for a short while. A bit like Boris.The trouble is they cant keep it up!

Farage is probably similar...

Lets hope we find someone with longevity because what they espouse is real and relatable for the long term...

[Goku]

https://www.bbc.co.u...siness-68999222

Ian not sure I remember you mentioning this one? If you didn’t, I think you’re now duty-bound to make at least 10-20 posts about it like you did Raynor. In fact, it’s so much more money than Raynor allegedly didn’t pay that I think you need to make those posts proportionally in line with the monetary %age increase matey 😉 I think the sum in question for her was £1,500? I make that 0.03% of Zahawi’s sum.

Seriously though, he was only Chanceller of the Exhequer, what hope did he have in understanding the taxation rules? Poor bloke

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[isleaiw1]

Goku, on 13 May 2024 - 07:05 AM, said:

https://www.bbc.co.u...siness-68999222

Ian not sure I remember you mentioning this one? If you didn’t, I think you’re now duty-bound to make at least 10-20 posts about it like you did Raynor. In fact, it’s so much more money than Raynor allegedly didn’t pay that I think you need to make those posts proportionally in line with the monetary %age increase matey 😉 I think the sum in question for her was £1,500? I make that 0.03% of Zahawi’s sum.

Seriously though, he was only Chanceller of the Exhequer, what hope did he have in understanding the taxation rules? Poor bloke

Apparently it was careless and not deliberate... when you are dealing with those sorts of sums, surely you get expert advice and therefore there is no being careless? But then its fairly obvious that there are way too many of them who feel like they may make the laws but they dont apply to them. I think his behaviour when he was chancellor and subsequent on his sacking showed what type of person he is.... hopefully of the £5m he has had to pay at least £2m was a fine and he has ended up suitably punished for his carelessness...

On the value, fiddling tax is fiddling tax and knowingly underpaying it is worse than being a benefit cheat in my humble opinion....

[s42blue]

 Goku, on 13 May 2024 - 07:05 AM, said:

https://www.bbc.co.u...siness-68999222

Ian not sure I remember you mentioning this one? If you didn’t, I think you’re now duty-bound to make at least 10-20 posts about it like you did Raynor. In fact, it’s so much more money than Raynor allegedly didn’t pay that I think you need to make those posts proportionally in line with the monetary %age increase matey 😉 I think the sum in question for her was £1,500? I make that 0.03% of Zahawi’s sum.

Seriously though, he was only Chanceller of the Exhequer, what hope did he have in understanding the taxation rules? Poor bloke

You make a valid point on proportionality but I think you need rules around it. Is it the number of posts? Or the amount of words used per post?

If the proportion of tax relative is to posts that’d see 3300 extra posts purely on a 1:1 basis. If your suggestion of 10x is to be imposed…

Or is it number of words? Otherwise some posters might thousands of posts….others, more verbose, maybe just a couple…

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[isleaiw1]

s42blue, on 13 May 2024 - 07:45 AM, said:

You make a valid point on proportionality but I think you need rules around it. Is it the number of posts? Or the amount of words used per post?

If the proportion of tax relative is to posts that’d see 3300 extra posts purely on a 1:1 basis. If you’re suggestion of 10x is to be imposed…

Or is it number of words? Otherwise some posters might thousands of posts….others, more verbose, maybe just a couple…

I'll go for less verbose, can you trust someone who cant even get their tax return right? At least he is standing down and we dont have to worry about what else he gets wrong...

[isleaiw1]

And now he has a lucrative gig as non exec Chair at the Very Group - not sure what he will add to that place, although given the losses they are making this year there wont be any tax to worry about...

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

More snubs for Sunak's gimmick...

https://www.bbc.co.u...reland-69001673

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

With much of the country needing an 'Out of Order' sign stuck over it, the tories' priority is... https://www.mirror.c...-spend-32810310

Brilliantly summed up here... https://www.mirror.c...elling-32800942

[isleaiw1]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 14 May 2024 - 06:06 PM, said:

With much of the country needing an 'Out of Order' sign stuck over it, the tories' priority is... https://www.mirror.c...-spend-32810310

Brilliantly summed up here... https://www.mirror.c...elling-32800942

From that bastion of impartial reporting The Mirror....

Lets be honest all MPs spend hours sat in the House behaving like children. And pursuing their own pet projects in their constituency or nationally.

The civil servants do all the work.