[Johnnyspireite7]

Well considering they've got 4 ex-town in their side. Well done Tranmere, hopefully we can emulate what they've done in 2 years time.

[moondog]

The hardest bit is the first promotion, if we can do that there's a good chance

[Siberian Spireite]

I didn't really have a preference for either side- I was just glad Mansfield weren't there- but having watched the highlights, Newport can feel hard done by over two clear penalty shouts. Then again, good to see Labadie fail.

[Westbars Spireite]

Siberian Spireite, on 25 May 2019 - 08:49 PM, said:

I didn't really have a preference for either side- I was just glad Mansfield weren't there- but having watched the highlights, Newport can feel hard done by over two clear penalty shouts. Then again, good to see Labadie fail.

Wasn't one of them rightly ignored in favour of offside?

[Siberian Spireite]

Westbars Spireite, on 25 May 2019 - 10:12 PM, said:

Wasn't one of them rightly ignored in favour of offside?

No, wrongly

[Westbars Spireite]

Siberian Spireite, on 25 May 2019 - 10:20 PM, said:

No, wrongly

Why is that? The ball was played before the foul occurred. Are we talking about the same incident?

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Westbars Spireite, on 25 May 2019 - 10:57 PM, said:

Why is that? The ball was played before the foul occurred. Are we talking about the same incident.

Yes, same incident. If offsides were determined at the moment the ball is played then why do we have liners often waiting until the receiving player touches the ball before raising the flag?

[Westbars Spireite]

Siberian Spireite, on 25 May 2019 - 11:04 PM, said:

Yes, same incident. If offsides were determined at the moment the ball is played then why do we have liners often waiting until the receiving player touches the ball before raising the flag?

When there's doubt over the intended beneficiary of the pass? It doesn't change the fact that the offside decision is technically the moment it leaves his foot.

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[Westbars Spireite]

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[Spireiteboy155]

Knowing that there’s some decent Stattos on here, does anyone have the stats for how many teams have done that? (Gone straight through league 2 after coming up)

Sure I can remember it happening a few times? Brizzle Rovers the last?

I’m going to stick my neck out and say that more have done that than have gone up from the National League and gone straight back down.

[isleaiw1]

Westbars Spireite, on 25 May 2019 - 11:16 PM, said:

When there's doubt over the intended beneficiary of the pass? It doesn't change the fact that the offside decision is technically the moment it leaves his foot.

You cant be offside if you aren't interfering with play, so until the other player touched the ball, he couldn't be offside - and the foul had happened by then. Or so some ref said on TV yesterday....

[Westbars Spireite]

isleaiw1, on 26 May 2019 - 07:42 AM, said:

You cant be offside if you aren't interfering with play, so until the other player touched the ball, he couldn't be offside - and the foul had happened by then. Or so some ref said on TV yesterday....

I wasn't watching the game that closely as it wasn't especially riveting and so didn't question the commentator and summarisers analysis.

An interesting one.

[Spire-Power]

I would have thought the foul overrode the offside as it was committed before the offside player received the ball

[Johnnyspireite7]

Spire-Power, on 26 May 2019 - 07:54 AM, said:

I would have thought the foul overrode the offside as it was committed before the offside player received the ball

The offside offence is from when the ball is kicked not when it is received.

[Spire-Power]

I know but there was a foul involved.

[Siberian Spireite]

Spireiteboy155, on 26 May 2019 - 07:23 AM, said:

Knowing that there’s some decent Stattos on here, does anyone have the stats for how many teams have done that? (Gone straight through league 2 after coming up)

Sure I can remember it happening a few times? Brizzle Rovers the last?

I’m going to stick my neck out and say that more have done that than have gone up from the National League and gone straight back down.

None have gone straight back down, I believe?

[dim view]

Westbars Spireite, on 25 May 2019 - 10:12 PM, said:

Wasn't one of them rightly ignored in favour of offside?

Laws of the Game & FA Rules


In situations where:....

…. a player in an offisde position is moving towards the ball with the intention of playing the ball and is fouled before playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the foul is penalised as it has occurred before the offside offence

I take that to mean if either the passer or the receiver is fouled before the receiver touches the ball, then it's a foul.

[Brookie]

Mike Dean, a Tranmere fan, said it was a penalty

[Sussex Spireite]

Spireiteboy155, on 26 May 2019 - 07:23 AM, said:

Knowing that there’s some decent Stattos on here, does anyone have the stats for how many teams have done that? (Gone straight through league 2 after coming up)

Sure I can remember it happening a few times? Brizzle Rovers the last?

I’m going to stick my neck out and say that more have done that than have gone up from the National League and gone straight back down.

Crawley, Donny and Stevenage did it.

[Spireiteboy155]

Siberian Spireite, on 26 May 2019 - 08:33 AM, said:

None have gone straight back down, I believe?

Without reverting to hours on Google, I can’t think of any.
Macclesfield were the closest I can remember.

Sussex Spireite, on 26 May 2019 - 04:16 PM, said:

Crawley, Donny and Stevenage did it.

Did Bristol Rovers not? If not must have been the year after.

Sussex Spireite, on 26 May 2019 - 04:16 PM, said:

Crawley, Donny and Stevenage did it.

Did Bristol Rovers not? If not must have been the year after.