[Search & Destroy]

Stuff like this ?70-?100k a year for 37 hours

https://dileaders.co...sity-inclusion/

[Goku]

 Search & Destroy, on 28 May 2024 - 06:45 AM, said:

Stuff like this ?70-?100k a year for 37 hours

https://dileaders.co...sity-inclusion/

Do you ever think that you might be hyper focussed, borderline obsessed on one particular issue?

[Search & Destroy]

 Goku, on 28 May 2024 - 06:55 AM, said:

Do you ever think that you might be hyper focussed, borderline obsessed on one particular issue?

Maybe but the reform of the NHS is an important issue

[isleaiw1]

Search & Destroy, on 28 May 2024 - 07:57 AM, said:

Maybe but the reform of the NHS is an important issue

Most big companies with a diverse workforce will have a D,I and E lead these days. And of course the number of hours it says they work may not be what they really work. Is the salary reasonable? Well they must have one of the most diverse and largest workforces in the UK so its not going to be easy - although when you add a gold plated pension on top that is probably worth another 30%, it is a bit expensive....

I assume given you deal with the public you have been through appropriate D,I and E training to make sure that you dont display subconscious bias in your behaviours with minorities? Did it work...?

[fishini]

 Search & Destroy, on 28 May 2024 - 07:57 AM, said:

Maybe but the reform of the NHS is an important issue

What would you do to reform it and how would you carry it out?

[Search & Destroy]

fishini, on 28 May 2024 - 10:16 AM, said:

What would you do to reform it and how would you carry it out?

Interesting question

Ideas are that it wouldn?t be totally free of charge

A&E ?50 excess
Drunken admissions charged
Missed appointments charged
Foreign Nationals to have health insurance
Clamp down on long term sickness and absence
Abolish strike action
Fat taxes
Teach cooking at school to everyone
Do anything you can to encourage healthy lifestyle


Make it non political in so much as not having the government of the day responsible

[isleaiw1]

fishini, on 28 May 2024 - 10:16 AM, said:

What would you do to reform it and how would you carry it out?

Does that suggest that you dont think reform is necessary?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

 Search & Destroy, on 28 May 2024 - 10:39 AM, said:

Interesting question

Ideas are that it wouldn?t be totally free of charge

A&E ?50 excess
Drunken admissions charged
Missed appointments charged
Foreign Nationals to have health insurance
Clamp down on long term sickness and absence
Abolish strike action
Fat taxes
Teach cooking at school to everyone
Do anything you can to encourage healthy lifestyle


Make it non political in so much as not having the government of the day responsible

How would you fill the hundreds of thousands of NHS jobs your attitude towards immigration would leave vacant....?

[isleaiw1]

Search & Destroy, on 28 May 2024 - 10:39 AM, said:

Interesting question

Ideas are that it wouldn?t be totally free of charge

A&E ?50 excess
Drunken admissions charged
Missed appointments charged
Foreign Nationals to have health insurance
Clamp down on long term sickness and absence
Abolish strike action
Fat taxes
Teach cooking at school to everyone
Do anything you can to encourage healthy lifestyle


Make it non political in so much as not having the government of the day responsible

What about dangerous sports, going to charge them for their injuries incurred in the sport? what about runners and footballers who hurt themselves doing that, after all its a choice and some people are fat through health issues... and of course people go to A&E because they cant get in to see their GP, but you dont seem to be charging for GPs?

Like the govt you are tinkering around the edges, and those measures wont tackle the funding crisis for more expensive medicines, cancer treatments etc

Govt started down the fat tax - tax on sugary drinks (why only those and nothing else, who knows) but cant see the numbers of people needing the NHS falling yet...

Why not make it health insurance for all those who can afford it or whose employer can afford it and make free care for those who have no choice?

Dont charge for alcohol admission, charge for the alcohol in the first place - with a minimum unit charge. And of course you mention alcohol and fat (both legal) but no mention of drugs..?

Not going to argue with the sick pay point - although I imagine the NHS is slightly more stressful than buying a few cars and driving round the country... but this stat is scary...
Sickness absence rate in the public and private sectors UK 1995-2022. In 2022, the sickness absence rate in the United Kingdom's public sector was 3.6 percent, compared with 2.3 percent in the private sector.

That's more than 50% higher. I imagine there are people at work in the private sector who shouldnt be as they cant afford to be off, and equally i imagibe there are some people in the public sector who treat sick days like holiday, allowed so many a year and use all of them!

[Bonnyman]

isleaiw1, on 28 May 2024 - 11:38 AM, said:

What about dangerous sports, going to charge them for their injuries incurred in the sport? what about runners and footballers who hurt themselves doing that, after all its a choice and some people are fat through health issues... and of course people go to A&E because they cant get in to see their GP, but you dont seem to be charging for GPs?

Like the govt you are tinkering around the edges, and those measures wont tackle the funding crisis for more expensive medicines, cancer treatments etc

Govt started down the fat tax - tax on sugary drinks (why only those and nothing else, who knows) but cant see the numbers of people needing the NHS falling yet...

Why not make it health insurance for all those who can afford it or whose employer can afford it and make free care for those who have no choice?

Dont charge for alcohol admission, charge for the alcohol in the first place - with a minimum unit charge. And of course you mention alcohol and fat (both legal) but no mention of drugs..?

Not going to argue with the sick pay point - although I imagine the NHS is slightly more stressful than buying a few cars and driving round the country... but this stat is scary...
Sickness absence rate in the public and private sectors UK 1995-2022. In 2022, the sickness absence rate in the United Kingdom's public sector was 3.6 percent, compared with 2.3 percent in the private sector.

That's more than 50% higher. I imagine there are people at work in the private sector who shouldnt be as they cant afford to be off, and equally i imagibe there are some people in the public sector who treat sick days like holiday, allowed so many a year and use all of them!

or maybe a lot of public sector workers have to have yearly medicals and fitness tests to pass,public sector will always have higher levels of sickness

[Search & Destroy]

isleaiw1, on 28 May 2024 - 11:38 AM, said:

What about dangerous sports, going to charge them for their injuries incurred in the sport? what about runners and footballers who hurt themselves doing that, after all its a choice and some people are fat through health issues... and of course people go to A&E because they cant get in to see their GP, but you dont seem to be charging for GPs?

Like the govt you are tinkering around the edges, and those measures wont tackle the funding crisis for more expensive medicines, cancer treatments etc

Govt started down the fat tax - tax on sugary drinks (why only those and nothing else, who knows) but cant see the numbers of people needing the NHS falling yet...

Why not make it health insurance for all those who can afford it or whose employer can afford it and make free care for those who have no choice?

Dont charge for alcohol admission, charge for the alcohol in the first place - with a minimum unit charge. And of course you mention alcohol and fat (both legal) but no mention of drugs..?

Not going to argue with the sick pay point - although I imagine the NHS is slightly more stressful than buying a few cars and driving round the country... but this stat is scary...
Sickness absence rate in the public and private sectors UK 1995-2022. In 2022, the sickness absence rate in the United Kingdom's public sector was 3.6 percent, compared with 2.3 percent in the private sector.

That's more than 50% higher. I imagine there are people at work in the private sector who shouldnt be as they cant afford to be off, and equally i imagibe there are some people in the public sector who treat sick days like holiday, allowed so many a year and use all of them!

Yes would be happy to see charges for GP appointments
No charge for sports related injuries, runners to to be health motivated, so I differentiate to to alcohol related A&E admissions
Don?t agree with health insurance for all, just a compulsory excess with insurance needed for foreigners

[Search & Destroy]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 28 May 2024 - 11:10 AM, said:

How would you fill the hundreds of thousands of NHS jobs your attitude towards immigration would leave vacant....?

My attitude to immigration is perfectly clear

Kenyan Doctor welcome, Australian entrepreneur welcome, American Scientist welcome, Dutch dentist welcome, Canadian banker welcome, Portuguese Nurse welcome, Indian IT specialist welcome, Ghanaian care assistant welcome, Finnish lecturer welcome, French chef welcome, Spanish optician welcome, NHS workers welcome


Boatloads of Islamic males from Islamic war torn 3rd world countries not welcome

Gypsies tramps and thieves from Eastern Europe not welcome


It?s not even controversial

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

 Search & Destroy, on 28 May 2024 - 12:33 PM, said:

My attitude to immigration is perfectly clear

Kenyan Doctor welcome, Australian entrepreneur welcome, American Scientist welcome, Dutch dentist welcome, Canadian banker welcome, Portuguese Nurse welcome, Indian IT specialist welcome, Ghanaian care assistant welcome, Finnish lecturer welcome, French chef welcome, Spanish optician welcome, NHS workers welcome


Boatloads of Islamic males from Islamic war torn 3rd world countries not welcome

Gypsies tramps and thieves from Eastern Europe not welcome


It?s not even controversial

So you're happy to see an open ended number of workers arrive from all over the globe?

Including Islamic ones?

[isleaiw1]

Search & Destroy, on 28 May 2024 - 12:23 PM, said:

Yes would be happy to see charges for GP appointments
No charge for sports related injuries, runners to to be health motivated, so I differentiate to to alcohol related A&E admissions
Don?t agree with health insurance for all, just a compulsory excess with insurance needed for foreigners

But the person buying alcohol has paid a shed load of tax in their purchase to cover the negative impacts, the runners and other sports people are just choosing to put themselves at risk....

The NHS needs to focus its resources and saving its money for those who need it and not on those who can provide for themselves works for me - similar in Australia and Germany which are well regarded....

Whats a foreigner? Someone who doesnt pay tax here as opposed to someone who came here later in life..?

[Search & Destroy]

isleaiw1, on 28 May 2024 - 01:34 PM, said:

But the person buying alcohol has paid a shed load of tax in their purchase to cover the negative impacts, the runners and other sports people are just choosing to put themselves at risk....

The NHS needs to focus its resources and saving its money for those who need it and not on those who can provide for themselves works for me - similar in Australia and Germany which are well regarded....

Whats a foreigner? Someone who doesnt pay tax here as opposed to someone who came here later in life..?

You?re trolling again, ok charge runners and not pi55heads if you like, popular policy I’d imagine just like the no quota for the boaters


When I go to another country I take out medical insurance. Went to North Macedonia recently, needed insurance.

This post has been edited by Search & Destroy: 28 May 2024 - 01:59 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

 Search & Destroy, on 28 May 2024 - 12:33 PM, said:

My attitude to immigration is perfectly clear

Kenyan Doctor welcome, Australian entrepreneur welcome, American Scientist welcome, Dutch dentist welcome, Canadian banker welcome, Portuguese Nurse welcome, Indian IT specialist welcome, Ghanaian care assistant welcome, Finnish lecturer welcome, French chef welcome, Spanish optician welcome, NHS workers welcome


Boatloads of Islamic males from Islamic war torn 3rd world countries not welcome

Gypsies tramps and thieves from Eastern Europe not welcome


It?s not even controversial

Let's try again, shall we?

Muslim Kenyan doctor welcome?

Muslim Australian entrepreneur welcome?

Muslim American scientist welcome?

Dutch dentist, Canadian banker, Portuguese nurse, Indian IT specialist, Ghanaian care assistant, Finnish lecturer, French chef, Spanish optician and limitless NHS workers all welcome even if Muslim?

It really is a simple question...

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 28 May 2024 - 02:23 PM

[fishini]

 isleaiw1, on 28 May 2024 - 10:42 AM, said:

Does that suggest that you dont think reform is necessary?

You know that's not what I said. I just asked the person what he'd do. Some things I'd do is remove the need for nurses to go to university and train them on the wards. Just as my wife did. She started as a cadet nurse and worked her way up to eventually becoming a senior nursing officer. She didn't go to university and spent one day a week in the nursing school within the hospital. I would put in place a scheme where a doctor stayed in post for a set number of years, say ten years would have thier university costs cancelled. I would reduce the number of managers and make it the managers remaining would have to have a health background. I would remove car parking fees for staff. I believe these measures would help with recruitment. I would removed the right for doctors to work in the private sector. I would double the cost to the private of using NHS facilities. No NHS patients should go down the pecking order for private patients to jump the queue. Tax payers shouldn't subside the private sector unless the NHS gains from it.

This post has been edited by fishini: 28 May 2024 - 03:04 PM

[Search & Destroy]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 28 May 2024 - 02:22 PM, said:

Let's try again, shall we?

Muslim Kenyan doctor welcome?

Muslim Australian entrepreneur welcome?

Muslim American scientist welcome?

Dutch dentist, Canadian banker, Portuguese nurse, Indian IT specialist, Ghanaian care assistant, Finnish lecturer, French chef, Spanish optician and limitless NHS workers all welcome even if Muslim?

It really is a simple question...

Yes sure, they apply for a work permit and as long as they pass the background checks all good����


There’s good and bad immigration, it really is simple

This post has been edited by Search & Destroy: 28 May 2024 - 02:58 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

 Search & Destroy, on 28 May 2024 - 10:39 AM, said:

Interesting question

Ideas are that it wouldn?t be totally free of charge

A&E ?50 excess
Drunken admissions charged
Missed appointments charged
Foreign Nationals to have health insurance
Clamp down on long term sickness and absence
Abolish strike action
Fat taxes
Teach cooking at school to everyone
Do anything you can to encourage healthy lifestyle


Make it non political in so much as not having the government of the day responsible

But anyway...

Fifty quid excess - so how does one of the many millions already facing a cost of living crisis suddenly find that much if suddenly needing urgent attention? Would you let them die if unable to pay?

What does "drunken" mean - the D Day veteran having a funny turn after a few tipples at a rememberance event? The vet finding themselves with alcohol issues? The innocent victim of a Saturday night attack? Again, would you turn these away?

Missed appointments - including, say, skint single parents who can't afford transport through no fault of their own? Same applying to skint pensioners? Then how would you get fines from those already penniless?

Foreign nationals - can you be more specific? Exactly who are you talking about? Then, once more, are you prepared to deny possibly life saving treatment for lack of paperwork?

How would you "clamp down on long term sickness and absence"? Bearing in mind NHS staff will also be part of the record waiting lists currently witnessed.

Abolish strike action - dictatorship here we come. Besides, those taking action are amongst the most dedicated and professional people in the country only walking out as an absolute last resort.

Fat taxes - one hundred percent agree. Problem is such measures are always opposed by the Mail-esque media and right wing lobby groups - probably secretly funded by the junk food sector - screaming headlines about some 'nanny state' and sneering at those imposing it. Y'know in the same way they sneer at diversity directors.

Educating cookery and good health - agree again. But how much do you intend spending on those plans; ten million? A hundred million? More? Because the junk food sector spend tens of billions telling folk to chuck their muck down their necks every year.

Of course there is another very straightforward option - fund an integrated health service, incorporating far more preventative screening and a social care system fit for purpose, 'levelling us up' to those in many other European countries. Problem is that means an electorate prepared to pay for it and politicians honest enough to admit they'll have to.

Good luck with that...

 Search & Destroy, on 28 May 2024 - 02:57 PM, said:

Yes sure, they apply for a work permit and as long as they pass the background checks all good����


There?s good and bad immigration, it really is simple

Ah, so Islam is compatible with western societies, then...

[calvin plummers socks]

 Search & Destroy, on 28 May 2024 - 02:57 PM, said:

Yes sure, they apply for a work permit and as long as they pass the background checks all good����


There?s good and bad immigration, it really is simple

So let?s get this right- you?re all for immigration if it helps the country?

So you think all the jobless,, sick, obese works etc who were born here (indigenous folk) should leave?