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Posted 01 October 2008 - 10:30 AM

Some facts about our "current" form

  • In 2008 we have won 11 drawn 5 and lost 16 games
  • We used 41 players in 2008
  • In 2008 there has been only 1 month (March) in which we won more games than we lost.
  • There have been 3 months in which we lost more games than we won
  • In the 36 games played so far in 2008 we have 38 points
  • Extrapolate that out over a season and we would gain 48.5 ponts
  • since 2000 the highest league position we would have achieved with that point total is 20th
  • In 2006 48.5 points would have seen us relegated - in 03 we would have escaped relegation by half a point




PS To put this in the context of a full season - the 36th game last season was on March 15th. League form is well established by that point in the season -

the bottom 2 clubs on March 15 went on to be relegated,
the top 3 went on to secure automatic promotion
the only change in the play-off places came about when Rochdale replace Rotherham

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 10:32 AM

View PostAspire_webby, on Oct 1 2008, 11:30 AM, said:

Some facts about our "current" form

  • In 2008 we have won 11 drawn 5 and lost 16 games
  • In 2008 there has been only 1 month (March) in which we won more games than we lost.
  • There have been 3 months in which we lost more games than we won
  • In the 36 games played so far in 2008 we have 38 points
  • Extrapolate that out over a season and we would gain 48.5 ponts
  • since 2000 the highest league position we would have achieved with that point total is 20th
  • In 2006 48.5 points would have seen us relegated - in 03 we would have escaped relegation by half a point


interesting if a bit dipressing :wacko:
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 11:05 AM

View Postmouldred, on Oct 1 2008, 11:32 AM, said:

interesting if a bit dipressing :wacko:



The point I was going to go on to make (got interrupted!) was that 2 seasons ago Roy Mcfarland was sacked after the 37th game of the season against Orient on March 10. His side had accumlated 39 points (1 more than Richardson over 36 games in 2008) In fact he had the 39th point in the bag by the 36th game.

McFarland's sacking turned out to be lnked to the most significant game of the season - if we'd beaten Orient we would have stayed up. That of course wasn't known at the time so he was sacked with a slightly better record than Richardson's 2008 results

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 11:14 AM

View PostAspire_webby, on Oct 1 2008, 11:30 AM, said:

Some facts about our "current" form

  • In 2008 we have won 11 drawn 5 and lost 16 games
  • We used 41 players in 2008
  • In 2008 there has been only 1 month (March) in which we won more games than we lost.
  • There have been 3 months in which we lost more games than we won
  • In the 36 games played so far in 2008 we have 38 points
  • Extrapolate that out over a season and we would gain 48.5 ponts
  • since 2000 the highest league position we would have achieved with that point total is 20th
  • In 2006 48.5 points would have seen us relegated - in 03 we would have escaped relegation by half a point




PS To put this in the context of a full season - the 36th game last season was on March 15th. League form is well established by that point in the season -

the bottom 2 clubs on March 15 went on to be relegated,
the top 3 went on to secure automatic promotion
the only change in the play-off places came about when Rochdale replace Rotherham


Good stats AW. Last season LR had the success of the first half of the season results to fall back on. 2008 has so far been poor and currently it doesn't appear to be improving.
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 11:20 AM

View PostAspire_webby, on Oct 1 2008, 11:30 AM, said:

Some facts about our "current" form

  • In 2008 we have won 11 drawn 5 and lost 16 games
  • We used 41 players in 2008
  • In 2008 there has been only 1 month (March) in which we won more games than we lost.
  • There have been 3 months in which we lost more games than we won
  • In the 36 games played so far in 2008 we have 38 points
  • Extrapolate that out over a season and we would gain 48.5 ponts
  • since 2000 the highest league position we would have achieved with that point total is 20th
  • In 2006 48.5 points would have seen us relegated - in 03 we would have escaped relegation by half a point




PS To put this in the context of a full season - the 36th game last season was on March 15th. League form is well established by that point in the season -

the bottom 2 clubs on March 15 went on to be relegated,
the top 3 went on to secure automatic promotion
the only change in the play-off places came about when Rochdale replace Rotherham

Not good is it.

I said the same on another thread, but then looking at the form over a 9 month period isnt seen by some some as having a `balanced, reasoned, sensible stance.`, ` really is utterly pathetic` and `whingers who plague and disgrace this club`.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 11:32 AM

View PostAspire_webby, on Oct 1 2008, 11:30 AM, said:

Some facts about our "current" form

  • In 2008 we have won 11 drawn 5 and lost 16 games
  • We used 41 players in 2008
  • In 2008 there has been only 1 month (March) in which we won more games than we lost.
  • There have been 3 months in which we lost more games than we won
  • In the 36 games played so far in 2008 we have 38 points
  • Extrapolate that out over a season and we would gain 48.5 ponts
  • since 2000 the highest league position we would have achieved with that point total is 20th
  • In 2006 48.5 points would have seen us relegated - in 03 we would have escaped relegation by half a point




PS To put this in the context of a full season - the 36th game last season was on March 15th. League form is well established by that point in the season -

the bottom 2 clubs on March 15 went on to be relegated,
the top 3 went on to secure automatic promotion
the only change in the play-off places came about when Rochdale replace Rotherham



Hey Howard,

I wonder if Prozone would look at the data and generate an email to the Chairman? :-P
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 12:56 PM

View PostMP-Spire, on Oct 1 2008, 12:32 PM, said:

Hey Howard,

I wonder if Prozone would look at the data and generate an email to the Chairman? :-P



Maybe Prozone have a Drivel-o-Meter to measure the pain of watching the football served up at times. Stats don't really cature the full horror of it all. Of course the chairman will have t fall back on pure stats for the next few games....
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 12:59 PM

View PostAspire_webby, on Oct 1 2008, 12:05 PM, said:

The point I was going to go on to make (got interrupted!) was that 2 seasons ago Roy Mcfarland was sacked after the 37th game of the season against Orient on March 10. His side had accumlated 39 points (1 more than Richardson over 36 games in 2008) In fact he had the 39th point in the bag by the 36th game.

McFarland's sacking turned out to be lnked to the most significant game of the season - if we'd beaten Orient we would have stayed up. That of course wasn't known at the time so he was sacked with a slightly better record than Richardson's 2008 results


And - of course - in a higher league.
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 01:10 PM

View Postdeath, on Oct 1 2008, 12:20 PM, said:

Not good is it.

I said the same on another thread, but then looking at the form over a 9 month period isnt seen by some some as having a `balanced, reasoned, sensible stance.`, ` really is utterly pathetic` and `whingers who plague and disgrace this club`.



The balanced reasonable stance can be summed up in the following points..

6, 2, -1, 10, 3, 0,

Those are the number of points our current form would have left us above the team in the second relegation spot in each season since the league moved to 2 club relegation. On 2 occasions we would or could have been relegated and on 2 others the season would possibly have gone to the last game.

McFarland was sacked for similar results in a higher division and would have wet himself at the prospect of a Lester-type signing being sanctioned by the board.
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 03:12 PM

View PostMurrayBu, on Oct 1 2008, 01:59 PM, said:

And - of course - in a higher league.

PROBABLY THE MOST VITAL STATISTIC THERE IS RICHARDSON IS DOING THIS IN A LEAGUE LOWER,ITS AN EMBARRASSING STAT THAT THE CHAIRMAN FAILS TO SEE....TAKE THE BLINKERS OFF HUBBARD
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 03:13 PM

View PostMP-Spire, on Oct 1 2008, 12:32 PM, said:

Hey Howard,

I wonder if Prozone would look at the data and generate an email to the Chairman? :-P

Less of the zone, mate; more of the zac for us.
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 03:51 PM

View PostAspire_webby, on Oct 1 2008, 11:30 AM, said:

Some facts about our "current" form

  • In 2008 we have won 11 drawn 5 and lost 16 games
  • We used 41 players in 2008
  • In 2008 there has been only 1 month (March) in which we won more games than we lost.
  • There have been 3 months in which we lost more games than we won
  • In the 36 games played so far in 2008 we have 38 points
  • Extrapolate that out over a season and we would gain 48.5 ponts
  • since 2000 the highest league position we would have achieved with that point total is 20th
  • In 2006 48.5 points would have seen us relegated - in 03 we would have escaped relegation by half a point




PS To put this in the context of a full season - the 36th game last season was on March 15th. League form is well established by that point in the season -

the bottom 2 clubs on March 15 went on to be relegated,
the top 3 went on to secure automatic promotion
the only change in the play-off places came about when Rochdale replace Rotherham

if the 3 teams on points deductions had started on nil points like the rest they would be above us so we would be 17th the last time i remember us being so low in the league structure was in 91 before that you have to go back to tha early 60s if im wrong im sure stuart will let me know :D
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 03:58 PM

View PostAspire_webby, on Oct 1 2008, 11:30 AM, said:

Some facts about our "current" form

  • In 2008 we have won 11 drawn 5 and lost 16 games
  • We used 41 players in 2008
  • In 2008 there has been only 1 month (March) in which we won more games than we lost.
  • There have been 3 months in which we lost more games than we won
  • In the 36 games played so far in 2008 we have 38 points
  • Extrapolate that out over a season and we would gain 48.5 ponts
  • since 2000 the highest league position we would have achieved with that point total is 20th
  • In 2006 48.5 points would have seen us relegated - in 03 we would have escaped relegation by half a point




PS To put this in the context of a full season - the 36th game last season was on March 15th. League form is well established by that point in the season -

the bottom 2 clubs on March 15 went on to be relegated,
the top 3 went on to secure automatic promotion
the only change in the play-off places came about when Rochdale replace Rotherham


I think you need a hobby far to much time on your hands

Great Stats though !!
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 04:11 PM

View PostDuckys Moved, on Oct 1 2008, 04:58 PM, said:

I think you need a hobby far to much time on your hands

Great Stats though !!



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Posted 01 October 2008 - 04:15 PM

View PostAspire_webby, on Oct 1 2008, 05:11 PM, said:

I need a boss that kicks my bottom harder!

(Just learned this afernoon he's gone on long term sick and from tomorrow I am the boss. They won't find it so easy to do statistical analysis on football seasons on my watch! :D )

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 04:55 PM

View PostAspire_webby, on Oct 1 2008, 11:30 AM, said:

Some facts about our "current" form

  • In 2008 we have won 11 drawn 5 and lost 16 games
  • We used 41 players in 2008
  • In 2008 there has been only 1 month (March) in which we won more games than we lost.
  • There have been 3 months in which we lost more games than we won
  • In the 36 games played so far in 2008 we have 38 points
  • Extrapolate that out over a season and we would gain 48.5 ponts
  • since 2000 the highest league position we would have achieved with that point total is 20th
  • In 2006 48.5 points would have seen us relegated - in 03 we would have escaped relegation by half a point




PS To put this in the context of a full season - the 36th game last season was on March 15th. League form is well established by that point in the season -

the bottom 2 clubs on March 15 went on to be relegated,
the top 3 went on to secure automatic promotion
the only change in the play-off places came about when Rochdale replace Rotherham

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 05:53 PM

View PostAspire_webby, on Oct 1 2008, 05:11 PM, said:

I need a boss that kicks my bottom harder!



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Posted 01 October 2008 - 05:59 PM

View Postmilts, on Oct 1 2008, 04:51 PM, said:

if the 3 teams on points deductions had started on nil points like the rest they would be above us so we would be 17th the last time i remember us being so low in the league structure was in 91 before that you have to go back to tha early 60s if im wrong im sure stuart will let me know :angry:

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 06:50 PM

View Postdeath, on Oct 1 2008, 06:59 PM, said:

Mcmenemy, and he was sacked.


No, Paul Hart... Mcmenemy didnt get the push til 93 i think.
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 07:33 PM

View PostAspire_webby, on Oct 1 2008, 11:30 AM, said:

Some facts about our "current" form

  • In 2008 we have won 11 drawn 5 and lost 16 games
  • We used 41 players in 2008
  • In 2008 there has been only 1 month (March) in which we won more games than we lost.
  • There have been 3 months in which we lost more games than we won
  • In the 36 games played so far in 2008 we have 38 points
  • Extrapolate that out over a season and we would gain 48.5 ponts
  • since 2000 the highest league position we would have achieved with that point total is 20th
  • In 2006 48.5 points would have seen us relegated - in 03 we would have escaped relegation by half a point




PS To put this in the context of a full season - the 36th game last season was on March 15th. League form is well established by that point in the season -

the bottom 2 clubs on March 15 went on to be relegated,
the top 3 went on to secure automatic promotion
the only change in the play-off places came about when Rochdale replace Rotherham


can you just enlighten or have i missed something your results add up to 32 games yet you then say 36 games

that aside it is a very interesting fact that needs to be looked at seriously

i said before to my son that without the point deductions i would be seriously worried about relegation

history has shown lots of teams i quote to good to go down relegated from all divisions
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