[Rick Payne]

Just listened to Mr Paul Walker on Radio Sheffield having a 'heated exchange' with Chris (Mr Walker's words, not mine) regarding the situation at CFC. He doesn't believe the club is in crisis.

We're a club sliding down the leagues, having appointed a manager who managed just one win in our last 9 games in L1 in a feeble attempt to fight off relegation. Who subsequently failed to get us into the playoffs, even though Rotherham had 10 points deducted. A combination of bizarre tactics and woeful defending left 9 points below a play off place. Who has spent substantially on recruiting players in the twilight of their careers on lengthy contracts on allegedly large wages, but with just 2 strikers. The result being that we have lost our last 3 league games and 4 games lost at home already: 8 points off a promotion spot after 8 games and now home gates have now sunk below 3000.

Crisis, WHAT Crisis?

Hopefully by the time the investor comes aboard, there will still be the remains of a club to invest in?

Hopefully, BH is having a nice relaxing time at the seaside.

[Valley Boy Kopite]

Rick Payne, on Sep 30 2008, 08:47 PM, said:

Just listened to Mr Paul Walker on Radio Sheffield having a 'heated exchange' with Chris (Mr Walker's words, not mine) regarding the situation at CFC. He doesn't believe the club is in crisis.

We're a club sliding down the leagues, having appointed a manager who managed just one win in our last 9 games in L1 in a feeble attempt to fight off relegation. Who subsequently failed to get us into the playoffs, even though Rotherham had 10 points deducted. A combination of bizarre tactics and woeful defending left 9 points below a play off place. Who has spent substantially on recruiting players in the twilight of their careers on lengthy contracts on allegedly large wages, but with just 2 strikers. The result being that we have lost our last 3 league games and 4 games lost at home already: 8 points off a promotion spot after 8 games and now home gates have now sunk below 3000.

Crisis, WHAT Crisis?

Hopefully by the time the investor comes aboard, there will still be the remains of a club to invest in?

Hopefully, BH is having a nice relaxing time at the seaside.

Its getting very boring now, almost tedious in fact we know what needs doing, there all so out of touch with reality its untrue

[fishini]

Rick Payne, on Sep 30 2008, 08:47 PM, said:

Just listened to Mr Paul Walker on Radio Sheffield having a 'heated exchange' with Chris (Mr Walker's words, not mine) regarding the situation at CFC. He doesn't believe the club is in crisis.

We're a club sliding down the leagues, having appointed a manager who managed just one win in our last 9 games in L1 in a feeble attempt to fight off relegation. Who subsequently failed to get us into the playoffs, even though Rotherham had 10 points deducted. A combination of bizarre tactics and woeful defending left 9 points below a play off place. Who has spent substantially on recruiting players in the twilight of their careers on lengthy contracts on allegedly large wages, but with just 2 strikers. The result being that we have lost our last 3 league games and 4 games lost at home already: 8 points off a promotion spot after 8 games and now home gates have now sunk below 3000.

Crisis, WHAT Crisis?

Hopefully by the time the investor comes aboard, there will still be the remains of a club to invest in?

Hopefully, BH is having a nice relaxing time at the seaside.

Sorry but Mr P Walker does not have a clue what he's talking about, he admits he's only seen one game, he has no idea what Saltergate is like these days, he has no idea how bad the football is or how shockingly clueless Rico is, until he does he should keep his mouth shut and listen to the ones that ring up to tell it how bad it has become

[Zeus]

The presenters on RS have no clue about our club. Just SU, SW, Millerscum and a bit of the other two clubs. Andy Giddings labelled those who want Rico out as 'irrational'.

[moondog]

fishini, on Sep 30 2008, 08:57 PM, said:

Sorry but Mr P Walker does not have a clue what he's talking about, he admits he's only seen one game, he has no idea what Saltergate is like these days, he has no idea how bad the football is or how shockingly clueless Rico is, until he does he should keep his mouth shut and listen to the ones that ring up to tell it how bad it has become

I thought Paul Walker talked far more sense than Chris and I for one don't blame him for being irritated by a criticism of a chairman being on holiday, all a bit rich from a fan who takes a supporting holiday virtually every away game....

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

moondog, on Sep 30 2008, 09:50 PM, said:

I thought Paul Walker talked far more sense than Chris and I for one don't blame him for being irritated by a criticism of a chairman being on holiday, all a bit rich from a fan who takes a supporting holiday virtually every away game....

So, all but a couple of hundred fans aren't entitled to an opinion?

[moondog]

MDCCCLXVI, on Sep 30 2008, 09:55 PM, said:

So, all but a couple of hundred fans aren't entitled to an opinion?

It helps to have an informed opinion when the crux of the call was 3 defeats on the trot = a crisis and you've only seen one of them.

[Rob's Page]

At the start of the season, Seth and Andy had a right go at a Town fan who rang Praise or Grumble after our defeat against Bury. Infact, they played the call again the following monday on Football Heaven and slated the fans for not giving Richardson a chance. Andy then went on to say that the supporters should give Rico '10 to 15' league games to proove himself before calling for his head.
However, over the last couple of weeks they have started listening to the fans abit more and letting them have their say rather than jumping down their throats. Andy even changed his initial '10 to 15 game' statement to 'Give Richardson 10 games'! I finally thought they were starting to come round to our way of thinking... Until tonight!

I actually SHOUTED at the radio! It was really annoying and ignorent the way they kept on jumping in and not letting the caller speak! They may aswell start calling saturdays show 'PRAISE or PRAISE'!

Well, weve now played 8 league games and things aren't looking that great to me! It's gunna take something REAL special in the next 2 games to make me think otherwise...

[mouldred]

moondog, on Sep 30 2008, 09:50 PM, said:

I thought Paul Walker talked far more sense than Chris and I for one don't blame him for being irritated by a criticism of a chairman being on holiday, all a bit rich from a fan who takes a supporting holiday virtually every away game....

oh no not again another one that thinks one cant have an opinion if they dont attend every single game - deja vu

everyone is entitled to their opinion, informed or otherwise

[moondog]

mouldred, on Sep 30 2008, 10:21 PM, said:

oh no not again another one that thinks one cant have an opinion if they dont attend every single game - deja vu

everyone is entitled to their opinion, informed or otherwise

I agree but the criticism was of the chairman for missing games when the caller does the same

[geoffmitchell]

mouldred, on Sep 30 2008, 10:21 PM, said:

oh no not again another one that thinks one cant have an opinion if they dont attend every single game - deja vu

everyone is entitled to their opinion, informed or otherwise

I have an opinion as a former CFSS Board member in 2001 when the club was within hours of going out of existence. Now that's a crisis.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

moondog, on Sep 30 2008, 10:13 PM, said:

It helps to have an informed opinion when the crux of the call was 3 defeats on the trot = a crisis and you've only seen one of them.

You don't need to attend every game to see that we've lost five out of eight (and two of those we won were against the bottom two sides in the league barring point deductions), we're sitting fourteenth in the league despite the high profile players signed, we've scored fewer and conceded more than this time last season, we've gone out of both cup competitions we've played in thus far at the first hurdle (Preston i can understand, but Grimsby at home?), and, most importantly of all, our crowds are at bankruptcy levels and falling.

Now, if i'd attended every away game for the last ten years would any of those statistics change?

And by the way, just how many Town games has any of the RS presenters seen this season?

Let me say this one more time: Barry Hubbard is entitled to go on holiday wherever and whenever he wants, but if he does so when the football club he's running is facing a crisis - and that's what's happening whether RS presenters like it or not - it sends an extremely negative message to the supporters.

[forevablue]

mouldred, on Sep 30 2008, 10:21 PM, said:

oh no not again another one that thinks one cant have an opinion if they dont attend every single game - deja vu

everyone is entitled to their opinion, informed or otherwise

I know a few of the folk on this thread and it's a real shame when Town fans with the club at heart, whatever their views, get to this stage of disagreement over what most people including the manager would say is not acceptable on the pitch. The only real question is how long you give it and unless there is a very quick turn around in fortunes that has to be in the next 2 to 3 weeks or else we will be writing off this season given the recruitment time (assuming that we advertise externally).

There is the ownership issue which of course most of us know nothing about in detail and timing and how that will impact on events. I think the best we can do is grin and bear it like on many occasions in the past. The one and only serious protest in my time brought about the biggest disaster this club has ever seen and so on that basis drifting into oblivion for a little while longer seems a better option in the real hope that a new owner is not that far away.

Hard work this supporting your local team lark isn't it?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

moondog, on Sep 30 2008, 10:24 PM, said:

I agree but the criticism was of the chairman for missing games when the caller does the same

So me missing away games is just the same as the person running the Club being absent?

Blimey, i didn't realise i was so important!

geoffmitchell, on Sep 30 2008, 10:29 PM, said:

I have an opinion as a former CFSS Board member in 2001 when the club was within hours of going out of existence. Now that's a crisis.

So how long can we continue on gates of three thousand before we're faced with a similar scenario?

[Valley Boy Kopite]

moondog, on Sep 30 2008, 09:50 PM, said:

I thought Paul Walker talked far more sense than Chris and I for one don't blame him for being irritated by a criticism of a chairman being on holiday, all a bit rich from a fan who takes a supporting holiday virtually every away game....

Here here he used to do it on peak, first caller on even if he had been to the game or not!

[forevablue]

spireiteblue, on Sep 30 2008, 10:41 PM, said:

I am all for getting rid of Richardson but some of the players need to be following him because i don't see anything changing otherwise,bring it on i really want to see the magic work once Rico has gone,promotion will be a cert won't it,up up and away......

Unfortunately it won't as we will be some way behind and as you rightly state there will need to be a turnover of playing staff in order to have a serious effect. Rico himself said at the Player's Fund evening that there were 2 more he wanted out and 4/5 more in. A few loans/1 short term contract have come in but no-one has gone out. We can all guess who they might be but given some of his decisions I wouldn't want to put any money on it.

[Valley Boy Kopite]

MDCCCLXVI, on Sep 30 2008, 10:35 PM, said:

You don't need to attend every game to see that we've lost five out of eight (and two of those we won were against the bottom two sides in the league barring point deductions), we're sitting fourteenth in the league despite the high profile players signed, we've scored fewer and conceded more than this time last season, we've gone out of both cup competitions we've played in thus far at the first hurdle (Preston i can understand, but Grimsby at home?), and, most importantly of all, our crowds are at bankruptcy levels and falling.

Now, if i'd attended every away game for the last ten years would any of those statistics change?

And by the way, just how many Town games has any of the RS presenters seen this season?

Let me say this one more time: Barry Hubbard is entitled to go on holiday wherever and whenever he wants, but if he does so when the football club he's running is facing a crisis - and that's what's happening whether RS presenters like it or not - it sends an extremely negative message to the supporters.

You accuse the RS presenters of the something you are guilty of yourself

[mouldred]

moondog, on Sep 30 2008, 10:24 PM, said:

I agree but the criticism was of the chairman for missing games when the caller does the same

Fair point MD, I know what youre getting at, but it aint a fair comparison is it?