[Spired]

spireiteblue, on Oct 11 2008, 11:07 AM, said:

What do we think of Quinns idea,is he just thinking of Bornemouth ? Would it make sense in the difficult finacial scenario we now find ourselves in for League 1 and 2 sides to go regional again,is there any older members who can remember the last time it was done as it was a bit before my time and i was only 2 when it ended.

I have done a quick split of the current leagues to give us an idea of the formats.....

League 1 North. League 2 South

1. Chesterfield 1. Wycombe Wanderers
2. Bury 2. Dagenham & Redbridge
3. Bradford City 3. Exeter City
4. Rochdale 4. Aldershot Town
5. Darlington 5. Gillingham
6. Notts County 6. Barnet
7. Lincoln City 7. Bournemouth
8. Chester City 8. Luton Town
9. Macclesfield Town 9. Shrewsbury Town
10.Morecambe 10. Brentford
11.Accrington Stanley 11. Leicester City
12.Port Vale 12. Walsall
13.Grimsby Town 13. Millwall
14.Rotherham United 14. Southend United
15.Scunthorpe United 15.M K Dons
16.Oldham Athletic 16.Peterborourgh United
17.Leeds United 17. Brighton and Hove
18.Stockport County 18. Bristol Rovers
19.Carlisle United 19. Swindon Town
20.Hartlepool United 20. Leyton Orient
21.Huddersfield Town 21. Colchester United
22.Crewe Alexandria 22. Cheltenham Town
23.Northampton Town 23. Yeovil Town
24.Tranmere Rovers 24. Hereford United

Appologies it didn't look bunched up when i did it.....

i like that we're top

[BlueRover52]

It has been said that the way things are going on the financial side for the smaller clubs regionalisation is inevitable.With the next stage going part time.Yet some non league clubs seem to thrive and maintain some number of full time staff. Is it just that some clubs are just better run than others?

This post has been edited by BlueRover52: 11 October 2008 - 10:21 AM

[Frank Thacker]

That's not far off the quick split that I did - I had Northampton & Port Vale in the south (and west-ish midlands) and Leicester & Peterborough in the north (and east-ish midlands). There'd always have to be some forced moving, depending on who came up or down. One up automatically from each division, plus the winner of play-offs between the second and third-placed clubs in each division, and one down from each. I wonder what the champions of the Conference National would make of having to play in regionalised football?

I can't say it'd break my heart never to have to play some of those teams in the other section again, although the JPT - or Johnstone's Paints Trophy as we must call it - could be drawn in such a way as to renew acquaintances with our southern brethren. Interestingly if, say, Leicester, Millwall and Southend go up, Luton & Bournemouth go down, and the five sides are replaced by Donny, Barnsley, Blackpool, Wrexham and, after a late charge, Barrow , we could end up in the League One (South)!!

[BlueRover52]

spireiteblue, on Oct 11 2008, 11:23 AM, said:

In financial terms i would say we are in the better run bracket,but maybe some teams could fold in todays climate.....

Too true especially when there are murmurings that a Prem side could go bust,poor things.

[Zeus]

Well it would be a bit strange for fallen giants eg. Leicester & Leeds to be suddenly playing the likes of Accrington and Morecambe. It's fine how it is anyway.

[Search & Destroy]

D Loizou, on Oct 11 2008, 12:41 PM, said:

Well it would be a bit strange for fallen giants eg. Leicester & Leeds to be suddenly playing the likes of Accrington and Morecambe. It's fine how it is anyway.

Good for league 2 clubs not so good for league 1.

If it happened I reckon league 1 would stay as is and league 2 and BSP could be the regionalised leagues.

[Mr.Spireite]

Saltergate Stu, on Oct 11 2008, 11:23 AM, said:

we could end up in the League One (South)!!

That's not how it sued to work which would to be to move the most southerly of the Northern sides into the South League and vice versa if needed. I am sure there as been clubs who have played in both the southern section and the northern section.

The worry for Div1. Clubs though is that they in theory can go straight into non league....

[lindo-spireite]

i enjoy the long journeys down south

[Frank Thacker]

Mr.Spireite, on Oct 11 2008, 01:39 PM, said:

That's not how it sued to work which would to be to move the most southerly of the Northern sides into the South League and vice versa if needed. I am sure there as been clubs who have played in both the southern section and the northern section.

The worry for Div1. Clubs though is that they in theory can go straight into non league....

Mansfield have played in both, so I'm sure it wouldn't take too many of the wrong promotions and relegations to affect us. It isn't just a geographical split; on the borderlines they look for communication links, and so on - Worcester City have been put into the Conference (North) on occasions because its easier to get north-west on the M6 (?) than it is across to places like Havant or Eastbourne.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

spireiteblue, on Oct 11 2008, 11:39 AM, said:

WHU are in the deep doo doo by there own failings over Tevez i always new it would come back to haunt them and there owner is from Iceland,i wonder what there fate is come the seasons end....

They are an attractive proposition for yet another foreign but out

[moondog]

spireiteblue, on Oct 11 2008, 11:07 AM, said:

What do we think of Quinns idea,is he just thinking of Bornemouth ? Would it make sense in the difficult finacial scenario we now find ourselves in for League 1 and 2 sides to go regional again,is there any older members who can remember the last time it was done as it was a bit before my time and i was only 2 when it ended.

I have done a quick split of the current leagues to give us an idea of the formats.....

League 1 North.

1. Chesterfield
2. Bury
3. Bradford City
4. Rochdale
5. Gillingham
6. Notts County
7. Lincoln City
8. Chester City
9. Macclesfield Town
10.Morecambe
11.Accrington Stanley
12.Port Vale
13.Grimsby Town
14.Rotherham United
15.Scunthorpe United
16.Oldham Athletic
17.Leeds United
18.Stockport County
19.Carlisle United
20.Hartlepool United
21.Huddersfield Town
22.Crewe Alexandria
23.Northampton Town
24.Tranmere Rovers

League 1 South

1. Wycombe Wanderers
2. Dagenham and Redbridge
3. Exeter City
4. Aldershot Town
5. Gillingham
6. Barnet
7. Bournemouth
8. Luton Town
9. Shrewsbury Town
10. Brentford
11. Leicester City
12. Walsall
13. Millwall
14. Southend United
15. M K Dons
16. Peterborough United
17. Brighton and Hove
18. Bristol Rovers
19. Swindob Town
20. Leyton Orient
21. Colcheste United
22. Cheltenham Town
23. Yeovil Town
24. Hereford United

Dead against it

It would totally undermine the status of the lower two leagues and lead to a loss of quaility as teams would not be matched on pure ability.

Given our position geographically we'd risk ending up in the south division in some seasons and having more travel than at present

[benbow]

spireiteblue, on Oct 11 2008, 11:07 AM, said:

What do we think of Quinns idea,is he just thinking of Bornemouth ? Would it make sense in the difficult finacial scenario we now find ourselves in for League 1 and 2 sides to go regional again,is there any older members who can remember the last time it was done as it was a bit before my time and i was only 2 when it ended.

I have done a quick split of the current leagues to give us an idea of the formats.....

League 1 North.

1. Chesterfield
2. Bury
3. Bradford City
4. Rochdale
5. Gillingham
6. Notts County
7. Lincoln City
8. Chester City
9. Macclesfield Town
10.Morecambe
11.Accrington Stanley
12.Port Vale
13.Grimsby Town
14.Rotherham United
15.Scunthorpe United
16.Oldham Athletic
17.Leeds United
18.Stockport County
19.Carlisle United
20.Hartlepool United
21.Huddersfield Town
22.Crewe Alexandria
23.Northampton Town
24.Tranmere Rovers

League 1 South

1. Wycombe Wanderers
2. Dagenham and Redbridge
3. Exeter City
4. Aldershot Town
5. Gillingham
6. Barnet
7. Bournemouth
8. Luton Town
9. Shrewsbury Town
10. Brentford
11. Leicester City
12. Walsall
13. Millwall
14. Southend United
15. M K Dons
16. Peterborough United
17. Brighton and Hove
18. Bristol Rovers
19. Swindob Town
20. Leyton Orient
21. Colcheste United
22. Cheltenham Town
23. Yeovil Town
24. Hereford United

GILLINGHAM may find it difficult seeing as you have them in both North and South divisions!!!

[Town_Fan]

The trouble is that even if you have 4 teams relegated from the division above that only leaves 2 from each division likely to go up.

I guess you would have the champions from each league and then play offs for the others. This means you would need to be top 4 to qualify for the play offs thus ending the season for a lot of teams earlier. Richardson would lose his excuse for finishing 8th.

[Zeus]

spireiteblue, on Oct 11 2008, 11:07 AM, said:

What do we think of Quinns idea,is he just thinking of Bornemouth ? Would it make sense in the difficult finacial scenario we now find ourselves in for League 1 and 2 sides to go regional again,is there any older members who can remember the last time it was done as it was a bit before my time and i was only 2 when it ended.

I have done a quick split of the current leagues to give us an idea of the formats.....

League 1 North.

1. Chesterfield
2. Bury
3. Bradford City
4. Rochdale
5. Gillingham
6. Notts County
7. Lincoln City
8. Chester City
9. Macclesfield Town
10.Morecambe
11.Accrington Stanley
12.Port Vale
13.Grimsby Town
14.Rotherham United
15.Scunthorpe United
16.Oldham Athletic
17.Leeds United
18.Stockport County
19.Carlisle United
20.Hartlepool United
21.Huddersfield Town
22.Crewe Alexandria
23.Northampton Town
24.Tranmere Rovers

League 1 South

1. Wycombe Wanderers
2. Dagenham and Redbridge
3. Exeter City
4. Aldershot Town
5. Gillingham
6. Barnet
7. Bournemouth
8. Luton Town
9. Shrewsbury Town
10. Brentford
11. Leicester City
12. Walsall
13. Millwall
14. Southend United
15. M K Dons
16. Peterborough United
17. Brighton and Hove
18. Bristol Rovers
19. Swindob Town
20. Leyton Orient
21. Colcheste United
22. Cheltenham Town
23. Yeovil Town
24. Hereford United

This post has been edited by D Loizou: 11 October 2008 - 06:12 PM

[fishini]

spireiteblue, on Oct 11 2008, 11:23 AM, said:

In financial terms i would say we are in the better run bracket,but maybe some teams could fold in todays climate.....

Yep that right, thats why we are going from strength to strength, onwards and upwards and all that Pity we are heading for oblivion