[CFC91]

Who needs a 2nd spinner eh?!

What a dog**** pitch though. Be over in 3 days this.

[JonB]

Root 5-8....thats why we can get away with just playing Leach in theory.

Batting wise now i'm not sure there is much point in trying to stick it out. May as well go out and be positive, get on with it knowing one is coming at some point you can do nothing about. Get to lead of 130/140 and it could be enough.

India 46-7 in 20.2 overs this morning.

This post has been edited by JonB: 25 February 2021 - 10:43 AM

[JonB]

Looks like being out there early helps....

Crawley and Rohit who both batted at 1: 119 for 2
Numbers 2 to 11: 127 for 18

[hilly81]

FFS!

[hilly81]

This will be over today.

And India won't need to bat again.

This post has been edited by hilly81: 25 February 2021 - 11:07 AM

[JonB]

Cant be a coincidence that since Kohli moaned about the pitch being flat first up in the test they lost that they've played on some **** tips since. Rubbish for test cricket in general and its not something new to this series, they've done it for years and nothing been done about it.

[clarevoyant.]

JonB, on 25 February 2021 - 11:20 AM, said:

Cant be a coincidence that since Kohli moaned about the pitch being flat first up in the test they lost that they've played on some **** tips since. Rubbish for test cricket in general and its not something new to this series, they've done it for years and nothing been done about it.

They've built a 132,000 capacity stadium at an inordinate expense, an expense some would argue could be better spent in India. Then cant find the cost of getting the vital bit right (or have they), the 22yard bit in middle, the bit that 132,000, 5 times a test will be paying to see the entertainment.

[JonB]

clarevoyant., on 25 February 2021 - 11:36 AM, said:

They've built a 132,000 capacity stadium at an inordinate expense, an expense some would argue could be better spent in India. Then cant find the cost of getting the vital bit right (or have they), the 22yard bit in middle, the bit that 132,000, 5 times a test will be paying to see the entertainment.

If they win they will say they have got the pitch prep spot on...i doubt they care about anything else.

If i was the ECB\England management i would be making some complaints about whats been prepared to date. If it was over here and we had pitches to help seamers in a similar way the Indians would be kicking up a right fuss.

[JonB]

Spending a lot more time checking to make sure of an LBW decision against Root than they did over the catch yesterday. Goes against India and Kohli first to the umpire to "discuss" it.

[Westbars Spireite]

azul, on 24 February 2021 - 11:17 PM, said:

No issue - you are about the first person to question the fact that Stokes grounded the catch

My issue was the process wasn’t followed properly, as per previous incidents. He didn’t have the visual evidence required to conclude what he did on one view.

[clarevoyant.]

Well, I never ridicule Littleover again, not as I'll get chance.

[azul]

JonB, on 25 February 2021 - 12:00 PM, said:

Spending a lot more time checking to make sure of an LBW decision against Root than they did over the catch yesterday. Goes against India and Kohli first to the umpire to "discuss" it.

And they probably got that decision wrong in the end

Anyway 49-0, clearly the problem is in the players minds as much as the pitch. Also the ‘umpires call’ like playing with 4 stumps. I’m sure they used the say I’d it is clipping the stumps the umpire shouldn’t be giving it out because it is too close to call

[JonB]

azul, on 25 February 2021 - 02:29 PM, said:

And they probably got that decision wrong in the end

Anyway 49-0, clearly the problem is in the players minds as much as the pitch. Also the ‘umpires call’ like playing with 4 stumps. I’m sure they used the say I’d it is clipping the stumps the umpire shouldn’t be giving it out because it is too close to call

Cant really take the last innings into consideration with a small target and attacking fields with England looking for wickets. Says a lot about the wicket that there were more runs in todays T20 between NZ and Australia than there were in the whole of this test match.

[hewittfan]

clarevoyant., on 25 February 2021 - 11:36 AM, said:

They've built a 132,000 capacity stadium at an inordinate expense, an expense some would argue could be better spent in India. Then cant find the cost of getting the vital bit right (or have they), the 22yard bit in middle, the bit that 132,000, 5 times a test will be paying to see the entertainment.

The India Prime Minister has renamed the stadium after himself! link

[HoneyTrippa]

This is not Test Cricket in the true concept of the game. See previous post #72. How can true Test Cricket be over in 2 days - it goes against the whole context of the form. I stand by my post #72. I accept the perfectly valid points surrounding the impact DRS has on Test Cricket and the new modern forms 20/20, etc as it has produced a style of batting and batsmen that have lost the age old art of " blocking" and " batting out" a full days play.
Bring back Mr Geoffrey Boycott with his stick of Rhubarb and he would still be at the crease at "bedtime".

This post has been edited by HoneyTrippa: 25 February 2021 - 07:23 PM

[whittman]

There is no point in us turning up for the last test to be honest

The wicket will be another dust bowl from ball one and If we happen to dismiss the Indians cheaply you can bet we will not be able to press home any advantage

Has anyone any news on the whereabouts of the groundsman who prepared the wicket for the first test lol

[JonB]

whittman, on 25 February 2021 - 07:38 PM, said:

There is no point in us turning up for the last test to be honest

The wicket will be another dust bowl from ball one and If we happen to dismiss the Indians cheaply you can bet we will not be able to press home any advantage

Has anyone any news on the whereabouts of the groundsman who prepared the wicket for the first test lol

Probably under the pitch from the second or third test....

[whittman]

JonB, on 25 February 2021 - 08:04 PM, said:

Probably under the pitch from the second or third test....

It will be a miracle if he still has a job as a groundsman

Kholi will have seen to that like he sees to everything else that does not please him

[azul]

whittman, on 25 February 2021 - 07:38 PM, said:

There is no point in us turning up for the last test to be honest

The wicket will be another dust bowl from ball one and If we happen to dismiss the Indians cheaply you can bet we will not be able to press home any advantage

Has anyone any news on the whereabouts of the groundsman who prepared the wicket for the first test lol

There won’t be if they turn up with that attitude - most wickets fell from playing the wrong line to straight deliveries

Both sides batted appallingly

Edit
Apparently 21 of the 30 wickets fell to straight balls - Root blames the pink ball - too much pace off the pitch

This post has been edited by azul: 25 February 2021 - 09:10 PM

[clarevoyant.]

azul, on 25 February 2021 - 08:54 PM, said:

There won’t be if they turn up with that attitude - most wickets fell from playing the wrong line to straight deliveries

Both sides batted appallingly

Edit
Apparently 21 of the 30 wickets fell to straight balls - Root blames the pink ball - too much pace off the pitch

Give over.

2 of the best 4 sides in the world at the moment and they lose 30 wickets in 5 1/2 sessions, that world class bowler Joe Root takes 5 for 8 and folk still try to avoid stating the pitch was the key factor.

Yes players got out to the straight balls, but when a batsman as no confidence in the pitch (and who could) it becomes a gamble of do you or do you not play for spin and as in all gambles you lose out eventually

No doubt the excess lacquer and protruding seam would have caused problems early on, but with all the coaches, technology and ability available you would expect this to be countered after 30 overs or so.

Joe Root was probably being 'extremely' diplomatic in his suggestion that the ball was the root cause of the wicket feste. It was implied earlier in the thread that in India you tend to accept your lot!!!. This will help sell tourist packages the next time we are misfortunate enough to be scheduled to play there, nobodies that barmy.