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Football League Restructure What a surprise

#1 Geordieblue

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:10 PM

New details just coming out.
Loads to talk about here but one thing already sticks out like a festering boil.
'possibility of premier league b teams entering the leagues'.
What a surprise.

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:17 PM

Geordieblue, on 19 May 2016 - 05:10 PM, said:

New details just coming out.
Loads to talk about here but one thing already sticks out like a festering boil.
'possibility of premier league b teams entering the leagues'.
What a surprise.

That's what is behind it all. More premier league talking as the poor clubs get poorer.

Why would any club in the lower leagues want less fixtures and loss of crucial revenue?

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:19 PM

You can see it. 'No money from us unless'

And who does it help? All the overseas youngsters struggling to get a game.

The lower leagues need a plan of action as do we fans.

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:25 PM

I really dislike the idea. It will make the football league less competitive. Teams that get 500 fans at home can't compete with Championship, League one or even League two sides. I also don't like the idea of having less midweek games. Playing a game under the floodlights feels special to me, and we have only had a couple this year.

It also affects non-league football as well which will need a completely new re-structure as well which they've failed to address, and to top this off, football league teams would play less games a season which means LESS MONEY FOR US!

B*llocks to the FA, b*llocks to the Premier League, and b*llocks to the Football League.

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:31 PM

Just on SSN. Five leagues of 20 clubs!

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:32 PM

Just worked out that we would lose £450,000 a year because of this.

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:35 PM

Is this happening?

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:36 PM

The football league need to form a breakaway league structure and form links with the conference if this 'b team' idea is pursued. Make the championship the holy grail and fk the premiership and sky off. Money is killing the game

Here we go again!

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:37 PM

I for one would never attend any games against B-sides. It would make the lower divisions into a joke. We already have the most succesful league system in the world, no other country has 4 divisions of fully-pro sides.

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:40 PM

Westbars Spireite, on 19 May 2016 - 05:35 PM, said:

Is this happening?

It's only a proposal, can't see the clubs going for it! You'd have to relegate 7 from the Championship and 8 from League 1 & 12 from League 2 and add in 8 from conf/premier b teams.

Trigger (not the freak), on 19 May 2016 - 05:36 PM, said:

The football league need to form a breakaway league structure and form links with the conference if this 'b team' idea is pursued. Make the championship the holy grail and fk the premiership and sky off. Money is killing the game

It's the Football League proposing it!!!!

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:41 PM

How precisely do they propose clubs make more money by playing three less home games?

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:42 PM

Johnnyspireite7, on 19 May 2016 - 05:40 PM, said:

It's only a proposal, can't see the clubs going for it! You'd have to relegate 7 from the Championship and 8 from League 1 & 12 from League 2 and add in 8 from conf/premier b teams.

It's the Football League proposing it!!!!

Oh ffs

Here we go again!

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:42 PM

Geordieblue, on 19 May 2016 - 05:10 PM, said:

New details just coming out.
Loads to talk about here but one thing already sticks out like a festering boil.
'possibility of premier league b teams entering the leagues'.
What a surprise.

That's why they brought in the no in season loans then.

Think we should boycott these games lol.

God I hate this league.

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:43 PM

Westbars Spireite, on 19 May 2016 - 05:41 PM, said:

How precisely do they propose clubs make more money by playing three less home games?

Probably having more games on TV. They don't care about the fans anymore.

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:48 PM

Happ Hazzard, on 19 May 2016 - 05:43 PM, said:

Probably having more games on TV. They don't care about the fans anymore.

More fans won't bother going if their team is on tv.

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:53 PM

The concern here is that Chairmen wth the vote will vote with their wallets with the promise of premier league cash and won't care about the fans. It also opens the door for Celtc and Rangers.
Struggling to see any financial benefits unless some cash is cascaded down.
Clubs will probably charge the same price for season tickets for 3 less games and ticket prices would rise to cover costs
The fans will pay for this if voted in.

Have passport will travel

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:54 PM

Benno Spire, on 19 May 2016 - 05:53 PM, said:

Lots of people disagree with Dave Allen but he's not an idiot, he should see right through this. Hopefully other clubs do too.

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:54 PM

Geordieblue, on 19 May 2016 - 05:10 PM, said:

New details just coming out.
Loads to talk about here but one thing already sticks out like a festering boil.
'possibility of premier league b teams entering the leagues'.
What a surprise.

No mention of prem b teams

The Football League has distributed a discussion document to its member clubs ahead of its summer conference and AGM next month
Clubs are being asked to consider the re-organisation of the domestic league system into five divisions of 20 teams from the 2019/20 season.

Under the proposal, The Football League would become a four division competition below the Premier League, including a new League Three, with 100 clubs competing across the professional game. In addition, the League Cup and League Trophy will be retained with the latter potentially having a revised format include a group structure of three games before becoming a knockout competition thereafter.

At this point, the Board of The Football League is offering no recommendation other than asking clubs to give the matter their full consideration, taking into account the following:

- Football League Clubs should be in a financially no worse, or preferably better, position as a result of any changes;
- Promotion to/relegation from the Premier League must be retained at three places;
- There would be no relegation out of The Football League in season 2018/19;
- Football League Clubs must support the final proposal.

The proposal stems from English football’s collective concerns about the fixture calendar and enjoys the 'in principle' support of executives from the Premier League and FA. The Premier League is due to take a report to their Clubs at their summer meeting, while the FA Executive needs to consult with its Board.

The congested fixture list remains one of the game’s biggest concerns with insufficient dates available in each season to sensibly accommodate both League and Cup fixtures without significant clashes. The League’s proposal seeks to achieve a new, innovative approach to the fixture calendar and will need ‘whole game’ support as this concern is not unique to The Football League and is shared for differing reasons by both the Premier League and FA.

If implemented , the proposal would The number of midweek matches reduce from next season’s nine in the Championship, seven in League One and six in League Two to just one in the Championship, League Two and the new League Three and none in League One in 2019/20.

In considering these matters, the football authorities have identified the following objectives:

Football League Objectives:

- To maximise the number of weekend/Bank Holiday league fixtures;
- To remove where practical fixture congestion and scheduling conflicts;
- To protect/improve financial distributions/income generation for Football League clubs;
- To maintain the Football League Play-Off Finals as the last event of the domestic season.

Premier League and FA Priorities:
Increasing the prospect of success for Clubs in European competitions;
Increasing the prospect of success for England Teams at all levels;
Retaining the value and status of the FA Cup Competition;
Avoiding a ‘problematic’ fixture clash with UEFA Competitions;
To achieve a fixture schedule where the FA Cup Final is played the week after the last round of Premier League fixtures.

The Football League believes there are any number of potential benefits for Football League clubs in reducing the number of fixtures, the importance of which will depend on a club’s individual circumstances. In all circumstances clubs should not be disadvantaged by the proposed changes. Benefits include but are not limited to:

- The importance of each individual fixture will increase;
- Reduced travel costs to four games which are often at a distance;
- Midweek travel for fans vastly reduced.
- Potential to reduce squad size;
- Increased importance of reserve team football;
- Enhanced recovery time/match preparation.
- Increase in sale of season tickets due to reduction in midweek games;
- Increased profile on League One, Two & Three at different stages of the season;
- Statistically greater chance of promotion (and relegation);
- At least six new Clubs (30%) to play each season.
- No relegation out of the Football League in 2018/19;
- Different formats for the Football League Trophy available;
- Opportunity to standardise promotion/relegation.

Any final decisions on this proposal would not need to be made by Football League clubs until their AGM in June 2017 enabling full consultation with clubs and stakeholders, including fans.