[spireitetoo]

This was posted by les on yogi's facebook group page this morning,..

As a lifelonmg supporter of CFC of 65 years and also having financially supported the club for over 40 years, I am extremely worried.
1. We have the debacle across the road.
2. We had Rafflegate, Which I understand we are soon to get an official press release.
3. If all the information is correct AC hired KF who started our demise.
4. AC has now hired a "New" commercial man Richard Herrick who has lost premier Clubs Millions, He has numerous bankruptcy's to his name just over the past few years, he is according to Business records in debt to the tune of 2.5 million. EEK
5. We are in a position that the academy could lose it's Cat 3 status which would mean a loss of close to £400,000 a year.
6. The "New" kit man is an ex employee of AC he has no experience whatsoever and yet he has given him more money than Steve who was a very experienced kit man, His excuse is quote "yes he has received a small increase in pay to what Steve was earning, but hey, this is not a 9 - 5 job and some weeks Steve works 70 hours, don't forget he also looks after the reserves and youth." so my question would be " Is he working more hours than Steve? If not Steve should have been paid more then".
Even in the Darren Brown era I was not this worried TBH, I fear for our club, Things do not seem right, Not by a Long Way.

He's not a happy camper thats for sure.

[Sammy Spireite]

Nice to see he's come round to our way of thinking!

[Johnnyspireite7]

Sycophancy must wear off after a while!

[The Black Triangle]

spireitetoo, on 17 March 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

This was posted by les on yogi's facebook group page this morning,..

As a lifelonmg supporter of CFC of 65 years and also having financially supported the club for over 40 years, I am extremely worried.
1. We have the debacle across the road.
2. We had Rafflegate, Which I understand we are soon to get an official press release.
3. If all the information is correct AC hired KF who started our demise.
4. AC has now hired a "New" commercial man Richard Herrick who has lost premier Clubs Millions, He has numerous bankruptcy's to his name just over the past few years, he is according to Business records in debt to the tune of 2.5 million. EEK
5. We are in a position that the academy could lose it's Cat 3 status which would mean a loss of close to £400,000 a year.
6. The "New" kit man is an ex employee of AC he has no experience whatsoever and yet he has given him more money than Steve who was a very experienced kit man, His excuse is quote "yes he has received a small increase in pay to what Steve was earning, but hey, this is not a 9 - 5 job and some weeks Steve works 70 hours, don't forget he also looks after the reserves and youth." so my question would be " Is he working more hours than Steve? If not Steve should have been paid more then".
Even in the Darren Brown era I was not this worried TBH, I fear for our club, Things do not seem right, Not by a Long Way.

He's not a happy camper thats for sure.

Point 4 is a particular concern. You really have to wonder what Carson and Allens thinking and motivations are, because what has gone on and what appears to be still going on makes absolutely no sense at all. After the financial losses and disaster that befell Sheffield Wednesday you might expect them to have learnt a thing or two. But no, they are making the same mistakes again, only the losses are less able to be dealt with by a smaller club.
Maybe if I a took ate a few dodgy mushrooms and stared at a few of those weird posters for a while it might make sense.

[Looker-on]

As I hear it, Les was always more of a mate of Turner than Carson, which might make for interesting times on his Facebook thing if CT was to be dropped in it over Rafflegate or the Development School. Fingers crossed, eh?!

[Westbars Spireite]

Maybe time he started posting back on here.

[Phil V 72]

I can't see this post - is it not on the 'Lilley site' or has it been removed?

[spireitenag]

Phil V 72, on 17 March 2017 - 01:39 PM, said:

I can't see this post - is it not on the 'Lilley site' or has it been removed?

it's not posted on "Lilleyland".

It's on the CFC Kop Choir page on facebook.

[DIFH]

spireitetoo, on 17 March 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

This was posted by les on yogi's facebook group page this morning,..

As a lifelonmg supporter of CFC of 65 years and also having financially supported the club for over 40 years, I am extremely worried.
1. We have the debacle across the road.
2. We had Rafflegate, Which I understand we are soon to get an official press release.
3. If all the information is correct AC hired KF who started our demise.
4. AC has now hired a "New" commercial man Richard Herrick who has lost premier Clubs Millions, He has numerous bankruptcy's to his name just over the past few years, he is according to Business records in debt to the tune of 2.5 million. EEK
5. We are in a position that the academy could lose it's Cat 3 status which would mean a loss of close to £400,000 a year.
6. The "New" kit man is an ex employee of AC he has no experience whatsoever and yet he has given him more money than Steve who was a very experienced kit man, His excuse is quote "yes he has received a small increase in pay to what Steve was earning, but hey, this is not a 9 - 5 job and some weeks Steve works 70 hours, don't forget he also looks after the reserves and youth." so my question would be " Is he working more hours than Steve? If not Steve should have been paid more then".
Even in the Darren Brown era I was not this worried TBH, I fear for our club, Things do not seem right, Not by a Long Way.

He's not a happy camper thats for sure.

Les is not on his own

[dim view]

Looker-on, on 17 March 2017 - 12:00 PM, said:

As I hear it, Les was always more of a mate of Turner than Carson, which might make for interesting times on his Facebook thing if CT was to be dropped in it over Rafflegate or the Development School. Fingers crossed, eh?!

Can't wait for Ashley's 'Invite Only' Open Forum (to be broadcast live on t'internet).

I understand it may be postponed cos Ashley is washing his hair that night.

[Phil V 72]

spireitenag, on 17 March 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

it's not posted on "Lilleyland".

It's on the CFC Kop Choir page on facebook.

Ah, thank you

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

I think we should give Les a degree of credit.

Sure he was guilty of misguided loyalty, as we've all been on occasion, however not only did he have the minerals to 'front-up' but he's now been big enough to accept being mistaken.

I respect him for that.

One other thing, too.

Les's relationship with the ex CEO means he could be a valuable ally in exposing stuff I'm told is still going on at the Club...

This post has been edited by MDCCCLXVI: 17 March 2017 - 03:25 PM

[Mr Mercury]

I might start using club taxis again..

[Town_Fan]

spireitetoo, on 17 March 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

This was posted by les on yogi's facebook group page this morning,..

I'm not fed news from the inner circle anymore and now I'm upset and lashing out with the usual stuff people pointed out for months, some of it out of date, whilst I throw toys from the pram.

Cynical moi?

This post has been edited by Town_Fan: 17 March 2017 - 03:36 PM

[Cartman]

MDCCCLXVI, on 17 March 2017 - 03:24 PM, said:

I think we should give Les a degree of credit.

Sure he was guilty of misguided loyalty, as we've all been on occasion, however not only did he have the minerals to 'front-up' but he's now been big enough to accept being mistaken.

I respect him for that.

One other thing, too.

Les's relationship with the ex CEO means he could be a valuable ally in exposing stuff I'm told is still going on at the Club...

could the motive be that as an ally of CT, Les now wants to expose that most of what fans accused CT of doing was in fact nothing to do with him?

[Town_Fan]

Cartman, on 17 March 2017 - 03:36 PM, said:

could the motive be that as an ally of CT, Les now wants to expose that most of what fans accused CT of doing was in fact nothing?

FIFY

[Johnnyspireite7]

Mr Mercury, on 17 March 2017 - 03:27 PM, said:

I might start using club taxis again..

You'll have a job. They've been absorbed by City Cars!

[Spired]

spireitetoo, on 17 March 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

This was posted by les on yogi's facebook group page this morning,..

As a lifelonmg supporter of CFC of 65 years and also having financially supported the club for over 40 years, I am extremely worried.
1. We have the debacle across the road.
2. We had Rafflegate, Which I understand we are soon to get an official press release.
3. If all the information is correct AC hired KF who started our demise.
4. AC has now hired a "New" commercial man Richard Herrick who has lost premier Clubs Millions, He has numerous bankruptcy's to his name just over the past few years, he is according to Business records in debt to the tune of 2.5 million. EEK
5. We are in a position that the academy could lose it's Cat 3 status which would mean a loss of close to £400,000 a year.
6. The "New" kit man is an ex employee of AC he has no experience whatsoever and yet he has given him more money than Steve who was a very experienced kit man, His excuse is quote "yes he has received a small increase in pay to what Steve was earning, but hey, this is not a 9 - 5 job and some weeks Steve works 70 hours, don't forget he also looks after the reserves and youth." so my question would be " Is he working more hours than Steve? If not Steve should have been paid more then".
Even in the Darren Brown era I was not this worried TBH, I fear for our club, Things do not seem right, Not by a Long Way.

He's not a happy camper thats for sure.

good for him all valid questions

[BozaSpireite]

Who's les ashmore ?

[Valley Blues]

So we're haemorrhaging money but give the new kit man, Ash's pal, a pay rise. As small as it may be, you couldn't write it!!