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 turrhall, on 09 June 2024 - 06:42 PM, said:

Oh, now we're onto casualties? Why didn't you say? Post the link, will you, chap.....

Yeah, I'm willing to accept both the UN and Israel's numbers over Hamas...do you know why? Cos one is the only democratic nation in that region, that supports gay rights and the advancement of women; the other is an utter scumbag terrorist regime, that has no democracy, kills it's own people, slaughters gays, and doesn't allow women to work 👍🏿

Israel's numbers are 14k civilians, 16k Hamas combatants. So, yeah, it's acceptable; cos it's the lowest number ever recorded in war, ever.

Amazing, after the stuff I've seen you write on here, you've chosen to side with Hamas. Yet, another hypocrite to add to the ever growing list...🏳️‍🌈

Ps I can't remember you saying anything about China having been accused of committing crimes against humanity and possibly genocide, against the Uyghur population and other mostly-Muslim ethnic groups in the north-western region of Xinjiang. Why not? We are talking staggering figures, a million plus.

Didn't see any of your left wing ilk writing a single thing on here about it on here. Where's the international court, so many of you are licking their lips over? Oh yes, fkin nowhere...like you, Snell, Josh, Johnny hamster....but, when it's the Jews, amazingly, up you all pop....weird.

A Liverpool legend. On my bedroom wall as a kid, with various other Liverpool greats. Wish him well and his family all the best.

 turrhall, on 09 June 2024 - 11:03 AM, said:

Eh? So, the 'different number' isn't revised, it's just a different number? Blimey, you should be in politics, pal. Did you do the COVID data for the BBC?

Yeah, Goku's link, 25 pages into Google 👍🏿

For starters, all figures are supplied by Hamas, and not based on independent data. However, the new figures offer a breakdown of fatalities, for whom full details have been documented.

The new figures reported by the UN OCHA, reduce by more than half the number of women and children that it previously said had been killed.

Apparently, Hamas don't supply death figures for combatants....but, from data supplied by Hamas to the UN, 'identified' registered deaths stood at: women (4.959) and children (7,797), or 52% of all deaths, from a revised total of 24'000 identified deaths. A 52% and 53% respective reduction for women and children, from the original figure of 34'000 total deaths, supplied by Hamas media sources. Meaning, approximately 11'000 of the dead are men; twice the amount of the women.

I mean, if you want to and, earring on the side of caution; you could conclude that a fair whack of those 11'000 men are likely to be Hamas terrorist combatants. Indeed, the IDF have suggested they've killed around 16'000 Hamas terrorists.... either that, or they are not the almighty army everyone is making them out to be. And that's where 1:1 ratio is concluded. You could also argue that the revised figures published by UN OCHA, only lead us to conclude that their previously published figures were unreliable at best, and false being the most likely outcome. That's what I've done. But, then again, I'm not an antisemitic 🇮🇱🇬🇧

From the UN regarding Hamas supplied data:

?United Nations teams in Gaza are unable to independently verify these figures, given the prevailing situation on the ground and the sheer number of fatalities. For this reason, all figures used by the UN clearly cite the Ministry of Health in Gaza as the source. The UN will verify these figures to the extent possible when conditions permit.?

What I find most disturbing is, people who are more than happy to identify with and support figures supplied by an appalling terrorist regime, that are not independently verified....just weird, very weird.

 s42blue, on 09 June 2024 - 08:24 AM, said:

Whilst you might consider this board to be the only place to express your private and personal thoughts, I don't. I've shown my respects, elsewhere, thank you. My grandad fought in WWII and had his foot blown off.

You may have noticed, this board's personal section isn't what folk consider to be immune from vileness being slung from all corners, no matter what the topic. What's been said so far is extremely mild and doesn't take anything away from the substance of the topic. In fact, I'd argue that Khan has shown more disrespect to our heroes than anything I've seen from the 'usual suspects' on here, and it's certainly pertinent to the topic.

 isleaiw1, on 09 June 2024 - 09:03 AM, said:

That's nice of you, Ian...you don't read them; yet, from the written word, which carries zero intonation, you've chosen to infer my character as being 'angry'. There really is no depth to your capabilities.

As I've said, you can present data however you want, it doesn't mean it's truly representative of results.

The BBC horrified a nation with their data presentation ref COVID; they've subsequently been reprimanded for doing so. The government run organisation decided to show ABC, they chose to omit XYZ.

Big pharma is well known for dumping multiple studies on medicines that achieve negative outcomes, but the one that shows a positive correlation is presented as THE outcome.

You can twist and present data however you want, but you can't fake methodologies... because they have to be able to be replicated, over and over.

Transparency is everything....