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Oh Dear, Caldwell Turning On Fans Already

#121 User is offline   DIFH 

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 11:28 AM

View Postdallyduncan, on 27 February 2017 - 11:25 AM, said:

By the looks of it Caldwell isn't any better than Saunders

January was the time to address the situation the best we could and he signs kids that aren't as good as our academy players who always play their hearts
out for the reserves.

He's signed a 6ft 5inch piece of German lard who's no better than the goalkeepers we've got even though they aren't much good either

If he don,t want negativity from ther fans don't gives us negativity from them on the field, no body minds the team losing if they try and give 100%

Dave Allan the club ain't worth £10 million and when we get relegated it will be worth a lot less.




You are saying GC had pots of money to go out and spend then together with all the options of players galore - get a grip man.



God I hate this league.
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Posted 27 February 2017 - 11:52 AM

View Postdtp, on 26 February 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

Why does Stuckman, then, take an age to distribute the ball five yards to a CB facing his own goal with a pacy forward breathing down his neck?

If this is tactical then GC has just written an open invitation for teams to pressurise our CBs when Stuckman has the ball - it's crazy!


Had to be tactical - the poor bloke was obviously under instruction not to play the ball long, based on the theory that if it's good enough for Guardirola it's good enough for us.
In the gaffer's defence, playing it long to short strikers doesn't work either, especially if we aren't quick enough to get a sniff of the second ball.
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Posted 27 February 2017 - 12:00 PM

Caldwell prefers to play out from the back so Stuckmann is presumably under orders to pass it to Evatt/Hird etc rather than hoof it. To be fair the defence was looking better prior to Saturday.
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Posted 27 February 2017 - 12:25 PM

View PostZytok, on 27 February 2017 - 12:00 PM, said:

Caldwell prefers to play out from the back so Stuckmann is presumably under orders to pass it to Evatt/Hird etc rather than hoof it. To be fair the defence was looking better prior to Saturday.


The basis of this system is pass and move, we in a lot of cases forget to do the second basic requirement.
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Posted 27 February 2017 - 04:14 PM

Posted on BBC new 10 minutes ago

Gary Caldwell: Chesterfield boss 'does not regret' telling negative fans to stay away


Glad to know that we support a team where freedom of speech & opinion is not allowed to apply or be voiced. Sooner he now goes the better
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Posted 27 February 2017 - 04:38 PM

Caldwell's remarks speak to a dearth of experience and local knowledge.

I remember Roy MacFarland saying something similar several years ago - but only after he'd guided the Club into the play off places!

Telling fans who've just performed a mass exodus after watching their all but relegated team once again humiliated wasn't exactly the brightest thing to do.

You'd have thought events at the AGM would've suggested it's more than results wazzing them off, too.

I'd guess most Tairn fans have a degree of sympathy for the task the young Scot's taken on.

However clueless selection and tactics allied to ill-timed comments will soon see that sympathy vanish.
Spanish proverb: 'Pessimists are just well informed optimists'
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Posted 27 February 2017 - 06:10 PM

Carson chose Caldwell because he was a young manager. He chose him because they perceived Paul Cook to be a youthful and enthusiastic manager - which brought success and millions in player sales.
So it's simple isn't it. Get another young and enthusiastic manager and the conveyor belt of talent to be sold will start up again.
But we all know it's not that simple. Allen was impressed with Cooks Accrington side, and more so when told about the budget. Were Allen involved day to day still, and he was discussing Caldwell, when told of Wigans budget for league 1 I doubt he would have been so impressed.
Cooks was good at getting players to buy into his ethos, his enthusiasm, his pass pass press press coupled with keeping formations and players position simple works.
That, to me, seems to be the polar opposite of what I have seen from Caldwell so far.
Had he said we can forget playing football, we need to grind our results out by any means possible to ensure we are in this division next season etc I'd have been far more impressed.
6 games, 6 new players. 0 wins. 2 points. 4 defeats. In games that we needed to win against the relegation rivals.
Dan Gardner in a deep defensive midfield role? The player most likely to give the ball away? Donahue as a left sided CB? Jones as a Left sided CB come left back come wing back? He didn't seem to have a clue what he should have been doing.
Won't head it brown? 3 up front but playing so wide they needed load hailers to communicate?
This appointment is just the latest in a series of poorly thought out and ill judged decisions that have cost the club, and will cost the club. Were already down, and next season we will also struggle.
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Posted 27 February 2017 - 07:44 PM

View Posth again, on 27 February 2017 - 11:52 AM, said:

Had to be tactical - the poor bloke was obviously under instruction not to play the ball long, based on the theory that if it's good enough for Guardirola it's good enough for us.
In the gaffer's defence, playing it long to short strikers doesn't work either, especially if we aren't quick enough to get a sniff of the second ball.


It's better that our forwards don't get a sniff than presenting the opposition's forwards with a sniff though, in my opinion only of course.
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Posted 27 February 2017 - 08:00 PM

View PostThe Black Triangle, on 27 February 2017 - 06:10 PM, said:

Carson chose Caldwell because he was a young manager. He chose him because they perceived Paul Cook to be a youthful and enthusiastic manager - which brought success and millions in player sales.
So it's simple isn't it. Get another young and enthusiastic manager and the conveyor belt of talent to be sold will start up again.
But we all know it's not that simple. Allen was impressed with Cooks Accrington side, and more so when told about the budget. Were Allen involved day to day still, and he was discussing Caldwell, when told of Wigans budget for league 1 I doubt he would have been so impressed.
Cooks was good at getting players to buy into his ethos, his enthusiasm, his pass pass press press coupled with keeping formations and players position simple works.
That, to me, seems to be the polar opposite of what I have seen from Caldwell so far.
Had he said we can forget playing football, we need to grind our results out by any means possible to ensure we are in this division next season etc I'd have been far more impressed.
6 games, 6 new players. 0 wins. 2 points. 4 defeats. In games that we needed to win against the relegation rivals.
Dan Gardner in a deep defensive midfield role? The player most likely to give the ball away? Donahue as a left sided CB? Jones as a Left sided CB come left back come wing back? He didn't seem to have a clue what he should have been doing.
Won't head it brown? 3 up front but playing so wide they needed load hailers to communicate?
This appointment is just the latest in a series of poorly thought out and ill judged decisions that have cost the club, and will cost the club. Were already down, and next season we will also struggle.

Good post
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Posted 27 February 2017 - 08:02 PM

View PostDave In Footie Heaven, on 27 February 2017 - 12:25 PM, said:

The basis of this system is pass and move, we in a lot of cases forget to do the second basic requirement.


Surely, the first thing you do before making a pass is make sure the man you are going to pass it to is not under pressure from the opposition. Stuckman made a short pass to Evatt on the edge of his own penalty area and facing his own goal with an opposing forward breathing down his neck. Is this a sensible tactic?

Stuckman, after several passes out we had failed to advance far away from our penalty area, plays a poor pass to an under-pressure Jones who in turn plays a poor pass to Mitchell resulting in a goal to the opposition. GC blames Jones?

Stuckman against Bury receives a poor pass, from Hird, with a forward advancing fast. Was this really a time to try to control the ball or put his foot through it? A sign of experience?

Our defence is not very good at the best of times but the stupid out-balls from Stuckman made them nervous wrecks on Saturday.

A nailed on certainty, though, Stuckman will start again tomorrow.

Meanwhile, I believe there is a good chance a **issed off Jones and a **issed off Fulton will be sat at home.
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Posted 27 February 2017 - 08:15 PM

View Postdtp, on 27 February 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

Surely, the first thing you do before making a pass is make sure the man you are going to pass it to is not under pressure from the opposition. Stuckman made a short pass to Evatt on the edge of his own penalty area and facing his own goal with an opposing forward breathing down his neck. Is this a sensible tactic?

Stuckman, after several passes out we had failed to advance far away from our penalty area, plays a poor pass to an under-pressure Jones who in turn plays a poor pass to Mitchell resulting in a goal to the opposition. GC blames Jones?

Stuckman against Bury receives a poor pass, from Hird, with a forward advancing fast. Was this really a time to try to control the ball or put his foot through it? A sign of experience?

Our defence is not very good at the best of times but the stupid out-balls from Stuckman made them nervous wrecks on Saturday.

A nailed on certainty, though, Stuckman will start again tomorrow.

Meanwhile, I believe there is a good chance a **issed off Jones and a **issed off Fulton will be sat at home.

Thing is Fulton was beginning to look like a decent L1 keeper, conceding just one goal (Oldham) in his last three games. So what just has happened with him (after his 'illness')?
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