[SpireiTed]

Who was watching the smoke bomb and missed Evo tackling for their penalty? I did

Do you think the Ref should have stopped the game until it had been disposed of? 

This post has been edited by SpireiTed: 06 August 2017 - 10:10 PM

[jack bauer]

SpireiTed, on 06 August 2017 - 09:45 PM, said:

Who was watching the smoke bomb and missed Evo tackling for their penalty? I did

Do you think the Ref should have stopped the game until it had been disposed of? 

fans switching off for a smoke bomb is one thing, players should be switched on and they clearly were not. play to the whistle and all... the bomb was not on the pitch as I recall so ref in his rights to play on. move on, horrible result for us, 45 to go.

[calvin plummers socks]

New directives about pyro and smoke is game 'should' be abandoned and big sanctions for club (or. Behind closed door games).

Danger with that of course is if a game is not going well- stick a pyro on!
What idiots bring them to a game?

[warfey is a spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 07 August 2017 - 06:32 AM, said:

New directives about pyro and smoke is game 'should' be abandoned and big sanctions for club (or. Behind closed door games).

Danger with that of course is if a game is not going well- stick a pyro on!
What idiots bring them to a game?

BILL AND BEN THE PYRO MEN FOR OUR OLDER FANS LOL

[dtp]

calvin plummers socks, on 07 August 2017 - 06:32 AM, said:

New directives about pyro and smoke is game 'should' be abandoned and big sanctions for club (or. Behind closed door games).

Danger with that of course is if a game is not going well- stick a pyro on!
What idiots bring them to a game?

Which club should be punished - the away team who'se supporters smuggled them into the ground and set them off or the home side who'se fans behaved but failed to detect that the away fans were mindless enough to be carrying these devices baring in mind that there was sufficient of a police presence for them to take some responsibility in return for the extortionate charges they invoice clubs with?

[calvin plummers socks]

dtp, on 07 August 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

Which club should be punished - the away team who'se supporters smuggled them into the ground and set them off or the home side who'se fans behaved but failed to detect that the away fans were mindless enough to be carrying these devices baring in mind that there was sufficient of a police presence for them to take some responsibility in return for the extortionate charges they invoice clubs with?

It's not the police as rarely now so police have a presence in the grounds (in London certainly)
The security teams are responsible - all clubs (in London again) now use Pyro dogs.

[dtp]

calvin plummers socks, on 07 August 2017 - 09:16 AM, said:

It's not the police as rarely now so police have a presence in the grounds (in London certainly)
The security teams are responsible - all clubs (in London again) now use Pyro dogs.

Don't the police have duties outside the grounds?

Don't we often see away fans being escorted in troublesome groups by the police?

Are these devices purchased inside the ground? No, these devices are most probably carried by the away fans from their own home territory all the way to the away ground whilst a lot of the time they are under scrutiny of the police and other stewarding whilst travelling on organised transport.

Sorry, CPS, we are entering into the usual blame game where one group looks for excuses so that they can pass the blame on to others. As with parenting, in my opinion, the responsibility starts at home.

[calvin plummers socks]

Yes of course but the Poice wouldn't search for pyro's etc as it's not their match day role.
Obviously their intelligence may lead to suspected people being questioned etc.

The use of these dogs will become more prevalent as the problem of these devices gets worse.

[moondog]

dtp, on 07 August 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

Which club should be punished - the away team who'se supporters smuggled them into the ground and set them off or the home side who'se fans behaved but failed to detect that the away fans were mindless enough to be carrying these devices baring in mind that there was sufficient of a police presence for them to take some responsibility in return for the extortionate charges they invoice clubs with?

Smoke bombs were set off by both sets of fans

[firedodger]

dtp, on 07 August 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

Which club should be punished - the away team who'se supporters smuggled them into the ground and set them off or the home side who'se fans behaved but failed to detect that the away fans were mindless enough to be carrying these devices baring in mind that there was sufficient of a police presence for them to take some responsibility in return for the extortionate charges they invoice clubs with?

From what I understand it was our stewards who were responsible for searching, not the police, not the extra stewards, so it was in our hands to stop the devices getting into the ground.

[valemadness]

moondog, on 07 August 2017 - 10:23 AM, said:

Smoke bombs were set off by both sets of fans

Where did town fans set off smoke bombs?

[calvin plummers socks]

firedodger, on 07 August 2017 - 03:08 PM, said:

From what I understand it was our stewards who were responsible for searching, not the police, not the extra stewards, so it was in our hands to stop the devices getting into the ground.

Yep all football grounds have security searching at grounds- police don't.

[warfey is a spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 07 August 2017 - 09:16 AM, said:

It's not the police as rarely now so police have a presence in the grounds (in London certainly)
The security teams are responsible - all clubs (in London again) now use Pyro dogs.

Dont u mean pyr ex dogs

[firedodger]

calvin plummers socks, on 07 August 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

Yep all football grounds have security searching at grounds- police don't.

Yes mate I understand that, my point was it's CFC regular stewards who did the searching on Saturday, I believe it costs more if you get the hired help stewards to do it.

[The Black Triangle]

warfey is a spireite, on 07 August 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

Dont u mean pyr ex dogs

Google translate said "French detected" but couldn't give me the English version.

[azul]

valemadness, on 07 August 2017 - 03:24 PM, said:

Where did town fans set off smoke bombs?

I suspect from W7. The one I saw thrown just after we scored looked to have a blue tint.

[warfey is a spireite]

The Black Triangle, on 07 August 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

Google translate said "French detected" but couldn't give me the English version.

Ure probably not heard of Pyrex eating out of bins

[oldgoat]

valemadness, on 07 August 2017 - 03:24 PM, said:

Where did town fans set off smoke bombs?

Where were they set off by town fans Ashley / moondog ?

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[bucko]

azul, on 07 August 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

I suspect from W7. The one I saw thrown just after we scored looked to have a blue tint.

That was thrown from the Grimsby end followed by one of there fans coming onto the pitch across to the west stand

[calvin plummers socks]

firedodger, on 07 August 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:

Yes mate I understand that, my point was it's CFC regular stewards who did the searching on Saturday, I believe it costs more if you get the hired help stewards to do it.

Stewards shouldn't be searching unless they are licenced - Town will have had licenced security there I'm sure?
Security normally search- stewards watch the crowd and keep aisles clear etc

firedodger, on 07 August 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:

Yes mate I understand that, my point was it's CFC regular stewards who did the searching on Saturday, I believe it costs more if you get the hired help stewards to do it.

Is there a requirement nowadays for a fire officer a Games in case of pyro etc?