[CFC91]

We’ve not played so not got a lot to moan about but surely it’s about time this gets put in the bin.

Sheff U goal today was not clear and obvious, took 4 minutes to view the footage. Awful for the watching public. Was one at Everton last week that took 5 minute again. Week after week it’s making headlines for all the wrong reasons.

Bin it - yay or nay?

[Siberian Spireite]

Yay, bin it. I was initially in favour but those in charge clearly lack the common sense to use it properly, so forget it and let’s enjoy the football instead.

[60s 70s Spireite]

CFC91, on 09 November 2019 - 05:09 PM, said:

We’ve not played so not got a lot to moan about but surely it’s about time this gets put in the bin.

Sheff U goal today was not clear and obvious, took 4 minutes to view the footage. Awful for the watching public. Was one at Everton last week that took 5 minute again. Week after week it’s making headlines for all the wrong reasons.

Bin it - yay or nay?

Minutes before United scored, McGoldrick had a goal chalked off by VAR after a four minute review (per Sky). Take a look just how close it was. Whatever happened to the benefit of doubt going to the forward.
https://twitter.com/...3875073/photo/1
Something’s got to change. If decisions can’t be made in under a minute, forget it.

[Town_Fan]

I have no issue where a clear mistake has been made but if you are measuring mm then it's just daft.

[twistedspire]

What wrong with using a "referees call" like in cricket?
The statement has been made on numerous occasions that the frames per second don't allow for precision. Therefore why not say it has to be a foot offside to overrule the onfield decision

[Mr Mercury]

twistedspire, on 09 November 2019 - 05:55 PM, said:

What wrong with using a "referees call" like in cricket?
The statement has been made on numerous occasions that the frames per second don't allow for precision. Therefore why not say it has to be a foot offside to overrule the onfield decision

But then the frames come into play for the new limit. Whatever the limit is, there's a line where you could be millimetres over.

[spireitetoo]

Should go on the players feet, not if his left nipple is cold

[CFC91]

Potential penalty shout in Leicester game which looked a lot more clear and obvious...not even looked at

No consistency at all

[metallilad]

Give the captain's one appeal against a decision and let the ref look at a monitor at the side of the pitch. As it stands the ref is just a mouthpiece for the real official sat Infront of the screen and it's too long and drawn out.

[sophocles]

I've been saying bin it since day one. The whole thing is utter garbage, and will totally destroy the game if allowed to continue.

[Mr Mercury]

metallilad, on 09 November 2019 - 06:51 PM, said:

Give the captain's one appeal against a decision and let the ref look at a monitor at the side of the pitch. As it stands the ref is just a mouthpiece for the real official sat Infront of the screen and it's too long and drawn out.

I think that just adds to the complications and time delays of it.

[StaffsSpireite]

Bin it........ I no longer watch Match Of The Day or any premier league games as its all they talk about now....... ruined the excitement of the game.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Stokespireite, on 09 November 2019 - 07:52 PM, said:

Bin it........ I no longer watch Match Of The Day or any premier league games as its all they talk about now....... ruined the excitement of the game.

It might encourage more people to watch teams in the lower leagues if people are that fed up of it

[JonB]

I said it wouldn’t work a few years ago when folk were saying it had to be brought in etc. Thing is it’s not been helped by anyone having a clue how it should be used now it’s here. Throw in tv refs not wanting to show up their mates on the pitch and it’s just made it worse.

This said the marginal offside decisions are fine by me, if the video is there and they determine it’s offside then it’s offside. It’s a yes/no decision. They just need to speed up getting there and make it clear what constitutes offside. I’ve seen one still of the blunts decision and his foot is offside so the issue isn’t they got it wrong just those working it took ages to do it and nothing is communicated to those in the stadium.

[Blue roan lily]

Stokespireite, on 09 November 2019 - 07:52 PM, said:

Bin it........ I no longer watch Match Of The Day or any premier league games as its all they talk about now....... ruined the excitement of the game.

Agree. It’s a Bin from me..

[Westbars Spireite]

How can they be accurate enough to know the millisecond it's left the foot of the person playing the pass? It should be put in the bin. It's football Jim but not as we know it.

[stainlessstephen]

If only VAR existed in 1997... who knows, we might have been in the FA Cup final...

[Blue roan lily]

stainlessstephen, on 09 November 2019 - 10:02 PM, said:

If only VAR existed in 1997... who knows, we might have been in the FA Cup final...

Doubt it. That robbing b’stard Ellery would have still made sure we didn’t get to the final.

[metallilad]

Mr Mercury, on 09 November 2019 - 07:40 PM, said:

I think that just adds to the complications and time delays of it.

Time delays are here. It's not going to go away unless FIFA decides to bin it and whilst other football associations don't join the Anti VAR crowd then it won't be ousted.
The problem as it stands is that the refereeing has been taken away from the referee and transferred to a faceless referee who can make anal decisions without any repercussions and take as much time As he wants whilst doing it.
So to put the control back into the hands of the footballers give them an appeal. The decision has to have been made for them to appeal against and the ball is not in play. So if a goal has been scored but has been ruled out for offside (incorrectly) then the captain can appeal the decision, all officials look at the screen and decide to either uphold or decline the appeal. No more appeals then, win or lose.
It stops diving because it can be reviewed and no player is going to encourage his captain to appeal a decision when he knows he has tried to con the ref. The players can't argue with the ref because his response would be to tell his captain to appeal or that their appeal has been used.
Slowly but surely the cheating would be ruled out.
No need for a faceless official making decisions miles away from the ground telling the ref to rule out a goal because a players chest hair is offside.

[JonB]

So if one team thinks they should have a penalty but can’t appeal it as the ball hasn’t gone dead and the ball doesn’t go dead for a good few mins in which time the opposition score...how far back can we go? If they allow it and give the pen do we wipe those few mins off the clock and play it all again with the pen to restart things?