[Wooden Spoon]

Westbars Spireite, on 23 October 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:

That statement worries me on various levels.

me too..........you wont get there without spending a lot of money, and unless they intend to give the corner of the east stand and the away goal end to bigger clubs to ensure sell outs with a puny relegation budget hows it going to work?









can someone ask about the 5 and 10 year loans, and when they will be paid and how this structured debt impacts the overall situation?

[Webster]

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Chesterfield FC @ChesterfieldFC · 5m 5 minutes ago
Paul Cook: "I think Gardner, Banks and O'Shea can come in and score goals. We have to plan for life without Daniel Johnson."

Well DJ not exactly had the scoreboard creaking with his goals

[valemadness]

Chesterfield FC @ChesterfieldFC · 2m 2 minutes ago
Paul Cook: "We've got exciting players, but defensively we need to improve."

Chesterfield FC @ChesterfieldFC · 2m 2 minutes ago
Dave Allen says it's very hard to compete with the wage bills of teams like Bristol City and Preston became their attendances are higher.

Chesterfield FC @ChesterfieldFC · 27s 27 seconds ago
Paul Cook: "The recruitment goes on. Who would you sign? You've got to be monitoring players. It's making us better as a team."

Chesterfield FC @ChesterfieldFC · 22s 22 seconds ago
Paul Cook: "We're in a competitive league and we feel that we're doing well."

[60s 70s Spireite]

valemadness, on 23 October 2014 - 07:49 PM, said:

Chesterfield FC @ChesterfieldFC · 2m 2 minutes ago
Paul Cook: "We've got exciting players, but defensively we need to improve."

Chesterfield FC @ChesterfieldFC · 2m 2 minutes ago
Dave Allen says it's very hard to compete with the wage bills of teams like Bristol City and Preston became their attendances are higher.

Chesterfield FC @ChesterfieldFC · 27s 27 seconds ago
Paul Cook: "The recruitment goes on. Who would you sign? You've got to be monitoring players. It's making us better as a team."

Chesterfield FC @ChesterfieldFC · 22s 22 seconds ago
Paul Cook: "We're in a competitive league and we feel that we're doing well."

Bristol City lost £13M in the year to 31 May 2013 and £14M the year before. However in the later year, the chairman, Steve Lansdowne wiped out £35M of debt. Bigger pockets not bigger crowds. Bigger crowds tend to mean bigger expectations, and therefore bigger wages bills and bigger debts.

[valemadness]

Chesterfield FC @ChesterfieldFC · 59s 60 seconds ago
Dave Allen has closed the AGM.

[lindo-spireite]

Well I'd love to say that was decent

[lindave]

lindo-spireite, on 23 October 2014 - 08:06 PM, said:

Well I'd love to say that was decent

Well I don't know about anyone else i can't see where they told the AGM anything new.We all know we have a big debt and CBC still want there money back, homes gates need to improve or we'll lose some of our top players sooner rather than later.

[lindo-spireite]

lindave, on 23 October 2014 - 08:14 PM, said:

Well I don't know about anyone else i can't see where they told the AGM anything new.We all know we have a big debt and CBC still want there money back, homes gates need to improve or we'll lose some of our top players sooner rather than later.

Yeah nothing new, but DA certainly knows how to put a downer on things, we've got our crowd levels, they aren't gona improve by too much, complaining about the customers not turning up isn't gona help

[Exharboroughspireite]

The amount of debt worries me. Especially considering we flogged cooper for a reported 700k

[Goku]

Exharboroughspireite, on 23 October 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

The amount of debt worries me. Especially considering we flogged cooper for a reported 700k

1mil

[Mr Mercury]

Exharboroughspireite, on 23 October 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

The amount of debt worries me. Especially considering we flogged cooper for a reported 700k

Tbh I don't think thats included in tonight's discussions , that will go onto the 2014/15 accounts which can't be commented on yet because they obviously haven't been completed yet.

[azul]

Exharboroughspireite, on 23 October 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

The amount of debt worries me. Especially considering we flogged cooper for a reported 700k

not the same accounting period

get a grip

[Spire-Power]

a kick in the balls, on 23 October 2014 - 07:34 PM, said:

me too..........you wont get there without spending a lot of money, and unless they intend to give the corner of the east stand and the away goal end to bigger clubs to ensure sell outs with a puny relegation budget hows it going to work?









can someone ask about the 5 and 10 year loans, and when they will be paid and how this structured debt impacts the overall situation?

I think you can but you would need a good manager, a good squad and a slice of good fortune. Did Rotherham actually spend mega bucks to get out of L1 ??

[azul]

Mr Mercury, on 23 October 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

Tbh I don't think thats included in tonight's discussions , that will go onto the 2014/15 accounts which can't be commented on yet because they obviously haven't been completed yet.

How are we losing so much? Apparently we have a banqueting suite manager, it's not all going on playing staff

and

For Colchester, the team travelled down in the morning and went to bed in the afternoon, presumably not in a hedge row, how much did that cost?

What return did that bring?

Wonder where the money is going!!!!!!

This post has been edited by azul: 23 October 2014 - 08:41 PM

[60s 70s Spireite]

azul, on 23 October 2014 - 08:34 PM, said:

However, how are we losing so much, apparently we have a banqueting suite manager, it's not all going on playing staff

and

For Colchester, the team travelled down in the morning and went to bed in the afternoon, presumably not in a hedge row, how much did that cost?

What return did that bring and how much did it cost?

Wonder where the money is going!!!!!!

How do you hold banquets, wedding parties and other dinner events without a banqueting manager? I would imagine its one area where we do make money.
As for travelling overnight, that's the Cilve Woodward, Dave Brailsford philosophy isn't it? Give your team nothing to moan about, give them no excuses.

[azul]

60s 70s Spireite, on 23 October 2014 - 08:45 PM, said:

How do you hold banquets, wedding parties and other dinner events without a banqueting manager? I would imagine its one area where we do make money.
As for travelling overnight, that's the Cilve Woodward, Dave Brailsford philosophy isn't it? Give your team nothing to moan about, give them no excuses.

And maybe give them egos they don't deserve? The bottom line is, does this treatment improve performances and results?

As for the banqueting manager, maybe we do need one, maybe we don't need one, but it is a big clue to where our massive increase in turnover evaporates to. It would be good if we see how much profit this side of the business brings in, but the accounts don't illustrate it

[dim view]

azul, on 23 October 2014 - 08:34 PM, said:

How are we losing so much? ........

...we arn't losing money. We lost the money last year. This year we already have enough cash to invest in a scoreboard which will earn us £100k ad infinitum.

[60s 70s Spireite]

dim view, on 23 October 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

...we arn't losing money. We lost the money last year. This year we already have enough cash to invest in a scoreboard which will earn us £100k ad infinitum.

£100k pa? Assume you are a salesman.

[azul]

dim view, on 23 October 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

...we arn't losing money. We lost the money last year. This year we already have enough cash to invest in a scoreboard which will earn us £100k ad infinitum.

Guff

We are not talking about a year that hasn't ended, we are talking the last reporting year in which we made a massive loss on top of the previous year when we made another loss

And £100K which 4000 can see (on a really good day) 50 hours/year, maybe maybe not

Why don't you listen to DA rather that me?

This post has been edited by azul: 23 October 2014 - 09:04 PM

[boot]

60s 70s Spireite, on 23 October 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

£100k pa? Assume you are a salesman.

No - he's a shareholder and that came from the AGM tonight.