[trickytrevsfanclub]

WARNINGIf you're not into shooting don't read this as you'll just think I'm a sad ***, those into shooting will understand, those that aren't just won't get it.
As a counterpoint to the thread about US gun culture who on here is a "shooter" and what do you use and what do you shoot? Are you a hunter, garden plinker or into Field Target or Hunter Field Target.
I'll start. Garden plinker only for me, fortunately I've got a long garden with a substantial vegetation covered wall at the end. Neither of my neighbours use their gardens and behind the wall is a school playground (obviously I don't shoot during school hours). So my shooting is private and very safe.
I started with an old Chinese B4 under lever in .22 with a cheap 4x40 scope which was given to me by a friend. Really enjoying it I splashed out on an Air Arms TX 200 in .177. Fantastic gun very accurate but weighed an absolute ton. So after a couple of years I sold it and bought a cheap and nasty B2 in .22 with a cheap scope, to this day not sure why as the difference between the two was just immense. Then I got an SMK XS19 in .22, another Chinese rifle but far superior to the others and a really nice piece of kit. Stuck a 6-24x50 IR AO scope on it (£25.99 from Ebay, bargain). Lovely to shoot and very accurate. Fancied another under lever so got an SMK DB5 in .177 and stuck a Nikko Sterling Mountmaster 4-12x40 scope on it. Again a cracking gun for a cheap price. All these Chinese guns came in at under £100 each, the B2 only £30 but you could tell why.
Then thought it time to up the game a bit so bought a Weihrauch 95k in .177. £225 used but in mint condition. It makes the others look like toys I've currently got one of the 6-24x50 Ebay Special's on it but will stick a decent scope on it when I've saved my pennies.
I shoot targets mainly, from distances of 15m to 25m but anything will do from tin cans to old action figures my lad no longer wants.
So what does everyone else own and do with theirs?

[Spireite_UK]

Will the Weihrauch go clean through a tin can both sides?

[Wooden Spoon]

trickytrevsfanclub, on 28 August 2014 - 10:02 PM, said:

Then thought it time to up the game a bit so bought a Weihrauch 95k in .177. £225 used but in mint condition. It makes the others look like toys

What is the muzzle velocity of that

[trickytrevsfanclub]

Spireite_UK, on 29 August 2014 - 03:02 AM, said:

Will the Weihrauch go clean through a tin can both sides?

I haven't done that yet but I suspect it may. Drinks can certainly, plastic bottle yes. Will try a tin can later and update.

a kick in the balls, on 29 August 2014 - 03:02 AM, said:

What is the muzzle velocity of that

It was chrono'd at an average of 11.6ftp which I believe is somewhere around 750 FPS.

This post has been edited by trickytrevsfanclub: 29 August 2014 - 05:31 AM

[JonB]

Not a shooter but the house we've just moved into the previous owner was....we've got a massive gun cabinet that they've left in the bedroom that i need to figure out what to do with!

[trickytrevsfanclub]

JonB, on 29 August 2014 - 07:08 AM, said:

Not a shooter but the house we've just moved into the previous owner was....we've got a massive gun cabinet that they've left in the bedroom that i need to figure out what to do with!

Sell it. There are numerous sites online you can sell it through. Depending on how good it is they can fetch a few quid.

[JonB]

trickytrevsfanclub, on 29 August 2014 - 07:39 AM, said:

Sell it. There are numerous sites online you can sell it through. Depending on how good it is they can fetch a few quid.

Yep, thats the plan as and when i get around to it. I'm assuming its a pain to remove or he would have taken it with him but we shall see.

[Wooden Spoon]

trickytrevsfanclub, on 29 August 2014 - 05:16 AM, said:

It was chrono'd at an average of 11.6ftp which I believe is somewhere around 750 FPS.

That's impressive.

I really enjoy target shooting (or used to). Don't much go for clays, but target rifles over a few 100m is a good challenge. Sadly, I don't do this any more, and I am reduced to my cheap air rifle in the garden.

I might look at taking up archery.

[trickytrevsfanclub]

Would love to have a go at the long range stuff, will do one day. Only shot clays once and after hitting (fluking) the first two didn't hit a thing for the rest of the day. Didn't bother again after that. 😧

[fishini]

Don't see the fascination with guns myself. I hate hunting and hunters

[Wooden Spoon]

fishini, on 29 August 2014 - 05:32 PM, said:

Don't see the fascination with guns myself. I hate hunting and hunters

don't have to be a hunter to enjoy it. Shooting at a target 600m away, with Iron sights is a very difficult thing to do.

Hunting is fine, if you eat what you shoot and only shoot what you will eat.

[fishini]

a kick in the balls, on 29 August 2014 - 06:55 PM, said:

don't have to be a hunter to enjoy it. Shooting at a target 600m away, with Iron sights is a very difficult thing to do.

Hunting is fine, if you eat what you shoot and only shoot what you will eat.

Hunting and game shooting are the main reasons for the terrible decline in our birds of prey and Derbyshire is the worst county for this. Gamekeepers are another pet hate of mine. Most are despicable preople. Met many and there very few good ones. However a few really care about nature though but too few I'm afraid

[Heavy_Soul]

fishini, on 29 August 2014 - 07:30 PM, said:

Hunting and game shooting are the main reasons for the terrible decline in our birds of prey and Derbyshire is the worst county for this. Gamekeepers are another pet hate of mine. Most are despicable preople. Met many and there very few good ones. However a few really care about nature though but too few I'm afraid

Meat is murder eh fish

[fishini]

Screamadelica, on 29 August 2014 - 07:35 PM, said:

Meat is murder eh fish

Where did I say that? My problem is the merciless killing of captors which is certainly not for food. I have witnessed the many cruel methods for killing birds of prey employed by game keepers. Shooting thousands of birds is killing purely for the fun of killing and nothing to do with the food chain as is Fox hunting and badger baiting add to these hare coursing

[trickytrevsfanclub]

This isn't a thread about shooting birds of prey
It's about shooting as a sport or hobby. No animal or bird ever got hurt shooting paper targets. What you're talking about is something completely different. Persecution of raptors is I agree despicable and those that do it do it by many means not just shooting, poisons, snares etc. Whatever their motives they are wrong, no argument. Raptors are beautiful birds, there's no greater sight than spotting a Kestrel hovering over the verge or seeing the Red Kites circling over the M1 as you head south.
I couldn't shoot (or kill in anyway) a bird eg pigeon, grouse, pheasant etc or a mammal , rabbit, fox etc except rats I could happily help rid the planet of those things. Not even if I was going to eat it afterwards but I do like pheasant, rabbit etc tasty as long as I don't have to kill it myself.

[Wooden Spoon]

fishini, on 29 August 2014 - 07:30 PM, said:

Hunting and game shooting are the main reasons for the terrible decline in our birds of prey and Derbyshire is the worst county for this. Gamekeepers are another pet hate of mine. Most are despicable preople. Met many and there very few good ones. However a few really care about nature though but too few I'm afraid

where I live the exact opposite is true.

There are literally hundreds of pheasants roaming the countryside - I regularly, almost on a daily basis have pheasants come into my garden.

My wife has a daily routine - feed the pets, put wild bird seed out and than have breakfast looking out over the garden and fields and watch the pheasants come to eat. One particular day we had maybe 8 or 10 of them in the garden, just a few feet from the patio doors eating away, happily wandering about.

They are breeding them here, in huge numbers, and in the woods around here there are dozens of feeders set out for the game birds.

Were it not for the hunting, the numbers of game birds would be dramatically reduced and you would rarely see any unless you disturbed them in a hedgerow etc. Its not all bad if done/managed properly.

[Wooden Spoon]

trickytrevsfanclub, on 29 August 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

This isn't a thread about shooting birds of prey
It's about shooting as a sport or hobby. No animal or bird ever got hurt shooting paper targets. What you're talking about is something completely different. Persecution of raptors is I agree despicable and those that do it do it by many means not just shooting, poisons, snares etc. Whatever their motives they are wrong, no argument. Raptors are beautiful birds, there's no greater sight than spotting a Kestrel hovering over the verge or seeing the Red Kites circling over the M1 as you head south.
I couldn't shoot (or kill in anyway) a bird eg pigeon, grouse, pheasant etc or a mammal , rabbit, fox etc except rats I could happily help rid the planet of those things. Not even if I was going to eat it afterwards but I do like pheasant, rabbit etc tasty as long as I don't have to kill it myself.

hey, if you like shooting, there is nothing wrong with going out, and hunting a rabbit(for example). You against it so to speak. If it gets away, fair play the rabbit has the day, it you manage to get it, you get a very tasty meal. And most times "it" will get away if you are on your own. That's how nature is - predator and prey. nothing cruel or inhumane about it. Many a time I take myself off to the woods, air rifle over the shoulder and stay out, for a day (or 2) if I have a good a good shoot and a good evening meal under the stars

Hunting for sport, and the wanton killing of animals for no other reason than pleasure - sorry - I cant do that and tis wrong. If its sport you want, then clays or wooden targets at a few 100 m is the way forward.

[fishini]

a kick in the balls, on 29 August 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

where I live the exact opposite is true.

There are literally hundreds of pheasants roaming the countryside - I regularly, almost on a daily basis have pheasants come into my garden.

My wife has a daily routine - feed the pets, put wild bird seed out and than have breakfast looking out over the garden and fields and watch the pheasants come to eat. One particular day we had maybe 8 or 10 of them in the garden, just a few feet from the patio doors eating away, happily wandering about.

They are breeding them here, in huge numbers, and in the woods around here there are dozens of feeders set out for the game birds.

Were it not for the hunting, the numbers of game birds would be dramatically reduced and you would rarely see any unless you disturbed them in a hedgerow etc. Its not all bad if done/managed properly.

Pheasants are not British birds a would not survive long here without being bread for shooting as for the other game birds nature would find the correct level of birds. You say youse these false birds but when was the last time you saw hen barrier or goshawk? Keepers put thousands of birds out then kill these wonderful birds of prey for taking a few. Do you think this is OK as long as you have few pheasants in you garden?

[trickytrevsfanclub]

a kick in the balls said:

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where I live the exact opposite is true.

There are literally hundreds of pheasants roaming the countryside - I regularly, almost on a daily basis have pheasants come into my garden.

My wife has a daily routine - feed the pets, put wild bird seed out and than have breakfast looking out over the garden and fields and watch the pheasants come to eat. One particular day we had maybe 8 or 10 of them in the garden, just a few feet from the patio doors eating away, happily wandering about.

They are breeding them here, in huge numbers, and in the woods around here there are dozens of feeders set out for the game birds.

Were it not for the hunting, the numbers of game birds would be dramatically reduced and you would rarely see any unless you disturbed them in a hedgerow etc. Its not all bad if done/managed properly.

Nothing makes me feel more sick than these pictures we see of young kids or happy smiling families standing over a dead Lion or Elephant they have shot. It's stomach churning. Even though I know that most of it is done as part of conservation ie removing the old and sick to give room for the healthy to flourish. If it has to be done then do it in private, don't let some idiotic moron loose on it.

fishini said:

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Pheasants are not British birds a would not survive long here without being bread for shooting as for the other game birds nature would find the correct level of birds. You say youse these false birds but when was the last time you saw hen barrier or goshawk? Keepers put thousands of birds out then kill these wonderful birds of prey for taking a few. Do you think this is OK as long as you have few pheasants in you garden?

He doesn't say that. No one in their right mind agrees with this unnecessary persecution.

[fishini]

trickytrevsfanclub, on 29 August 2014 - 09:28 PM, said:

Nothing makes me feel more sick than these pictures we see of young kids or happy smiling families standing over a dead Lion or Elephant they have shot. It's stomach churning. Even though I know that most of it is done as part of conservation ie removing the old and sick to give room for the healthy to flourish. If it has to be done then do it in private, don't let some idiotic moron loose on it.





He doesn't say that. No one in their right mind agrees with this unnecessary persecution.

But that is exactly what is happening in the name of sport