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 isleaiw1, on 10 June 2024 - 08:41 PM, said:

Ah, it was the financial crisis that caused the lack of money and not over spending, but the Tories shouldnt have done austerity anyway... Gordon Brown did a good job at the start of the financial crisis, not sure he was so good for the rest of the time, but that's also an opinion....

And yes, I think the Lib Dem / Tory coalition was the best govt since 2010...not a high bar, but the question is will I still believe it in 5 years?

Not worried about Starmer walking in, more worried about the unions having the keys too, as we say what happened in the 70s when they thought they had power...I was agreeing with Thornberry, by the way, thought it was good of her to tell the truth. A bit like Rayner in regards to Dianne Abbott.... not sure starmer will be as keen!

You know how inflation can fall but prices are still going up, its the same with stemming the flow, debt can still be rising but less rapidly than it would be based on previous spending levels...

Anyway, as I say, I look forward to you defending the events that transpire after 5th July. That will be quite humourous, and there will be so much whataboutery its untrue....

Will love to see how Labour deal with the North Sea Oil crisis after they continue to increase tax on oils firms. The problem is they won't actually raise any tax as most Oil companies will/are pull/pulling out. Shell and BPs profits from the UK barely register so very little income from them. At the same time, the UK's largest independent Oil firm Habour Energy have already declared they are moving production away from the North Sea in anticipation of Labour getting in. They have bought Wintershall and bought new fields in Africa. They did not even bid for any new licenses in the last round.

All that will happen is, last tax income will be raised, thousands will lose their jobs in the Oil industry (Scottish losses mainly) and we will see an increase in energy bills again as we will have to buy our Oil from abroad. This time the rises will be preventable rather than forced through world events.

Let's see if the promise of no tax rises in Income tax, NI VAT etc.

6500 new teachers is meaningless.

No short term.help for people who are struggling.

Anyone can spout ideas and policies, where is the money coming from to pay for all this as the country will not grow fast enough.

Highly ambitious plans, unfortunately I can't see anything other than higher taxes in future due to a lack of economic growth in the time frame required.

My view is that Labour will be the default winners. Not because that they are a credible opposition, but because people are fed up with the Tories.