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#1341 User is offline   isleaiw1 

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Posted 10 April 2024 - 09:35 PM

View PostMisnomer, on 10 April 2024 - 09:27 PM, said:

Actually, I don't know what's worse; your nauseating sycophancy or Snell's grooming of Josh Goku hmmmmmmmmm 🤔


But I know what is worse, and I will point the finger at .... YOU.

No sycophancy here, my friends are drawn from all race, religion, nationalities, backgrounds and wealth. It doesnt bother me. They are all good people. I have great neighbours who are muslim, sikh, eastern european, south east asian, some from doncaster, a couple of southerners. We all rub along fine because its the norm down here and for none of us is it an issue...
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#1342 User is offline   calvin plummers socks 

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Posted 10 April 2024 - 09:38 PM

View Postisleaiw1, on 10 April 2024 - 09:31 PM, said:

And the UK voted for Boris - but we arent all like him. A good orator could achieve that, back in the day.. maybe even now. I mean, lots followed Scargill and he had the brains of a wet sponge...



I'm saying hate doesnt. But yes, multiculturalism should work, if those whose views should have been left in the past can be avoided...



I am sure it was deliberate to wind up the non anti semitics that perhaps have a bias the other way.

It worked it seems.

Seems fair - if you throw a punch you cant then complain the other guy hit you, right?


Actually it seemed a good place to say Eid Mubarak intially but then decided to post a thread. All peace and goodwill in both cases.
Know and love many Jewish people so definitely not being provocative- jus t the village idiot finding hate as always (as opposed to starting it as usual)
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#1343 User is offline   Misnomer 

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Posted 10 April 2024 - 09:42 PM

View Postisleaiw1, on 10 April 2024 - 09:35 PM, said:

But I know what is worse, and I will point the finger at .... YOU.

No sycophancy here, my friends are drawn from all race, religion, nationalities, backgrounds and wealth. It doesnt bother me. They are all good people. I have great neighbours who are muslim, sikh, eastern european, south east asian, some from doncaster, a couple of southerners. We all rub along fine because its the norm down here and for none of us is it an issue...


My wife is/was Muslim.... she's brown. What's your point?
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Posted 10 April 2024 - 09:56 PM

View PostMisnomer, on 10 April 2024 - 09:42 PM, said:

My wife is/was Muslim.... she's brown. What's your point?


Is she or was she? why did she change? what has been the impact of that on your views?

My point is that my views are drawn from my experiences. Yours are drawn from yours or some ingrained views. I cant change that but you cant insult me because I have no reason to be any different....
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Posted 10 April 2024 - 10:17 PM

View Postisleaiw1, on 10 April 2024 - 09:56 PM, said:

Is she or was she? why did she change? what has been the impact of that on your views?

My point is that my views are drawn from my experiences. Yours are drawn from yours or some ingrained views. I cant change that but you cant insult me because I have no reason to be any different....


My ingrained views? You don't know me. How can you possibly say your views are from experience and mine are ingrained? I have absolutely zero doubt in my mind that I have worked with a far broader spectrum of people than you could ever think of getting close to. I have worked in several industries.

Her experience does not remotely influence my views. She left her 'community' because she wanted to experience a life beyond what she'd been told she would have to live; she was completely ostracised when she left (what other community does such a despicable thing). Not only that, she received multiple death threats. Do you think that's acceptable in a western society, a supposedly secular country? You don't just walk out out on Islam....

What makes me laugh is, you have the audacity to call me ignorant, but you haven't got a clue of what goes on under the surface. My views are formed from working in the police and teaching. Both roles gave me access to the lives of British Muslim families. What have you done... worked in finance 👍🏿 what a window of valuable insight that must provide....

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#1346 User is offline   calvin plummers socks 

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Posted 10 April 2024 - 11:08 PM

View PostMisnomer, on 10 April 2024 - 09:42 PM, said:

My wife is/was Muslim.... she's brown. What's your point?


Hmmm ‘wife’……
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Posted 11 April 2024 - 08:33 AM

View PostMisnomer, on 10 April 2024 - 10:17 PM, said:

My ingrained views? You don't know me. How can you possibly say your views are from experience and mine are ingrained? I have absolutely zero doubt in my mind that I have worked with a far broader spectrum of people than you could ever think of getting close to. I have worked in several industries.

Her experience does not remotely influence my views. She left her 'community' because she wanted to experience a life beyond what she'd been told she would have to live; she was completely ostracised when she left (what other community does such a despicable thing). Not only that, she received multiple death threats. Do you think that's acceptable in a western society, a supposedly secular country? You don't just walk out out on Islam....

What makes me laugh is, you have the audacity to call me ignorant, but you haven't got a clue of what goes on under the surface. My views are formed from working in the police and teaching. Both roles gave me access to the lives of British Muslim families. What have you done... worked in finance 👍🏿 what a window of valuable insight that must provide....


No I believe any family that ostracises its own is wrong, including white families that threw out their unmarried pregnant daughters for bringing shame on the family. Do I as a result think that all white people are wrong, no. The same with strongly Christian families who have cut off their kids inheritance as they dropped the church (yes, one of my former colleagues is in that group).

Yep, I have been a teacher, and I am an accountant by training, that isnt what I do now. My experience is based on those I know from across Sikh, muslim, hindu, and other cultures. I take people as I find, and dont draw generalisations across all from the bad that exist in every group. If you do that then all CFC fans are like you... and that isnt the case....
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#1348 User is offline   The Earl of Chesterfield 

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Posted 12 April 2024 - 07:21 PM

Well in a bid to rescue yet another thread from one cranks' little man manias, let's get back to the real tragedy: https://www.bbc.co.u...e-east-68796689

Then there're the hugely concerning developments surrounding Iran: https://inews.co.uk/..._article_inline

Let's be abundantly clear - Iran have been pulling terrorist strings for decades. There's is a regime which can quite rightly be deemed evil. And if the individuals killed in the Syrian consulate attack were culable in the Oct' Seven atrocity, they were legitimate targets. However there's a school of thought that suggests a Netanyahu regime being increasingly ostracised - even by the US - hit them in a cynical bid to divert. To drag Iran more overtly into the conflict. To thereby leave the Biden administration and West as a whole with no choice but to get back behind them.

To offer a face-saving exit from Gaza by claiming they're re-deploying forces to counter other threats.

The seriousness of this cannot be overstated. An Iran who feel they must respond is backed by Russia. America have no choice other than to support Israel. China watch on opportunistically.

This might get very, very messy...
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Posted 14 April 2024 - 08:40 AM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 11 October 2023 - 07:21 PM, said:

Which is EXACTLY the response Hamas would want

They committed an atrocity so hideous, so cruel, just to provoke a massive response from Israel, they’ve got what they wanted which is Gaza destroyed, Palestinians being killed in the 1000s

That’s why they target children and elderly, that’s why they rape

The Israeli and Western response is perfect, the cutting off the water and electricity, they don’t care about the death of themselves or their people

The bigger the Israeli response the better, make Israel the bad guy

This is to garner support from the Arab world in the hope of provoking a bigger power such as Iran to come to their aid





Seems I was on the money
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Posted 14 April 2024 - 09:08 AM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 14 April 2024 - 08:40 AM, said:

Seems I was on the money


Ooh who’s a clever little boy
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Posted 14 April 2024 - 09:18 AM

Iran has a right to defend itself x
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Posted 15 April 2024 - 07:03 AM

View PostGoku, on 14 April 2024 - 09:18 AM, said:

Iran has a right to defend itself x



All Iran then aren’t we?
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Posted 24 April 2024 - 05:25 PM

So what's the difference between Putin's forces leaving mass civilian graves and Netanyahu's forces leaving mass civilian graves?

https://news.un.org/...2024/04/1148876

https://www.bbc.co.u..._team=editorial

https://www.nytimes....mass-grave.html

And what more will it take for Sunak's government to pause arms sales to them...
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