[stevo]

Why wasn't there a minutes silence yesterday and who makes the decision on such things. Wear your poppy with pride.

[longeatonspireite]

stevo, on 02 November 2014 - 10:09 AM, said:

Why wasn't there a minutes silence yesterday and who makes the decision on such things. Wear your poppy with pride.

Any rememberance is usually done nearest to the 11th. I didnt see/hear of any silences yesterday.

[Bonnyman]

stevo, on 02 November 2014 - 10:09 AM, said:

Why wasn't there a minutes silence yesterday and who makes the decision on such things. Wear your poppy with pride.

Maybe because it was the 1st of November , it's like asking why the easter bunny didn't turn up.

[Humpalumpa]

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Poppies on the shirts also like numerous other clubs then CFC could auction them off for the RBL. Bit of a collectors item!


Some decent displays yesterday by clubs to remember the fallen.......Watford and Blunts

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[Valley Blues]

bonnyman, on 02 November 2014 - 10:40 AM, said:

Maybe because it was the 1st of November , it's like asking why the easter bunny didn't turn up.

Do we have to wait for Nov 11th to remember the fallen?? I think there were quite a few clubs who remembered yesterday, presumably because it was their last home game before 11th and they wanted to show their respect. I for one would have welcomed the silence.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Valley Blues, on 02 November 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

Do we have to wait for Nov 11th to remember the fallen?? I think there were quite a few clubs who remembered yesterday, presumably because it was their last home game before 11th and they wanted to show their respect. I for one would have welcomed the silence.

We had 90 odd minutes of it but it had nothing to do with the fallen or respect for them

[Nitrous Oxide]

There are plenty of Memorial Parades around on the Sunday nearest to the eleventh, is that not the place / occasion to remember?

Wonder when football grounds were seen as an appropriate church?

[calvin plummers socks]

Yep surely the place to pay respects is at church (or at the excellent memorial at the ground).
Strange all this minutes silence/applause at football-especially if not directly relevant to the club like when a celeb or whatever dies-when did it all start?

[Valley Blues]

Nitrous Oxide, on 02 November 2014 - 01:24 PM, said:

There are plenty of Memorial Parades around on the Sunday nearest to the eleventh, is that not the place / occasion to remember?

Wonder when football grounds were seen as an appropriate church?

I can't see the harm in football clubs wanting to show their own respects and if that means doing it a week early due to it being the closest opportunity then so be it. It really should not be an issue and certainly not something I personally would pick fault with, but that's just me. If they didn't fall silent at a football ground, I would bet the vast majority of those attending games would not do it at all.

[Valley Blues]

calvin plummers socks, on 02 November 2014 - 01:59 PM, said:

Yep surely the place to pay respects is at church (or at the excellent memorial at the ground).
Strange all this minutes silence/applause at football-especially if not directly relevant to the club like when a celeb or whatever dies-when did it all start?

Let's not confuse or even compare applauding the passing of a celebrity with that of Remembering the men that gave their lives for us.

[dalekpete]

There will be a "service" at the War Memorial on Armistice Day.

[Bonnyman]

Valley Blues, on 02 November 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

Do we have to wait for Nov 11th to remember the fallen?? I think there were quite a few clubs who remembered yesterday, presumably because it was their last home game before 11th and they wanted to show their respect. I for one would have welcomed the silence.

No we don't but Imo remembrance is a form of togetherness where everyone over a specific time come together as they did in the war as long as I have lived we have always had a minutes silence on the nearest Sunday or Saturday with regards to football whether home or away.

[Valley Blues]

bonnyman, on 02 November 2014 - 04:29 PM, said:

No we don't but Imo remembrance is a form of togetherness where everyone over a specific time come together as they did in the war as long as I have lived we have always had a minutes silence on the nearest Sunday or Saturday with regards to football whether home or away.

I agree that it has always been a minutes silence on the Matchday closest to Remembrance Sunday, whether it be at home or away. I thought it a bit strange to see clubs doing this yesterday but, IMO, I don't think it was a bad thing and would have welcomed it had it happened at the Proact. Not saying it should have happened just that I can understand why some clubs chose to do this.

[Radders]

Nitrous Oxide, on 02 November 2014 - 01:24 PM, said:

There are plenty of Memorial Parades around on the Sunday nearest to the eleventh, is that not the place / occasion to remember?

Wonder when football grounds were seen as an appropriate church?

The football ground is my church, and remembering people that made the ultimate sacrifice takes one minute - it can't hurt that much can it?

[Zeus]

Radders, on 03 November 2014 - 10:05 AM, said:

The football ground is my church, and remembering people that made the ultimate sacrifice takes one minute - it can't hurt that much can it?

It hurts the integrity of minute silences. In my view, the sparser they are, the more poignant and respectful, we should protect the sanctity of remembrance and not hold silences for the ritual of it.

[Radders]

Zeus, on 03 November 2014 - 11:57 AM, said:

It hurts the integrity of minute silences. In my view, the sparser they are, the more poignant and respectful, we should protect the sanctity of remembrance and not hold silences for the ritual of it.

so you want it to be sparser than once a year? Are our lives so full that we can't spare 1 minute to remember? And this in the centenary year. At the Menin Gate they have a service every night!! That hasn't hurt the integrity of remembrance and it remains poignant and respectful.
The less we do it, the less people in the future will care what happened - I think they need to be reminded

[dim view]

Radders, on 03 November 2014 - 12:45 PM, said:

The less we do it, the less people in the future will care what happened - I think they need to be reminded

Absolutely right Dave.
I've just been reading that some analysts think that tensions in the world now are greater than they were before the Great War - what with IS, and Putin as mad as a Hatter.
I'd emigrate to Australia, but I'd miss CFC too much.

[bifocart]

Radders, on 03 November 2014 - 12:45 PM, said:

so you want it to be sparser than once a year? Are our lives so full that we can't spare 1 minute to remember? And this in the centenary year. At the Menin Gate they have a service every night!! That hasn't hurt the integrity of remembrance and it remains poignant and respectful.
The less we do it, the less people in the future will care what happened - I think they need to be reminded

Spot on Mr Radford. The integrity of the silences is only cheapened when some unthinking clown breaks them,like at the Wolves game yesterday. It seems natural to me that this tradition shouldve evolved in football grounds, because thats where working class people would have gathered in numbers after the war, and the majority of em would have either direct or indirect experience of the war. Look at the story of the Accrington Pals regiment and then see how Stanley remember them. If people cant get it together to shut up for 60 seconds out of respect than god help us.

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[Zeus]

Radders, on 03 November 2014 - 12:45 PM, said:

so you want it to be sparser than once a year? Are our lives so full that we can't spare 1 minute to remember? And this in the centenary year. At the Menin Gate they have a service every night!! That hasn't hurt the integrity of remembrance and it remains poignant and respectful.
The less we do it, the less people in the future will care what happened - I think they need to be reminded

No, definitely not sparser than once a year; sparser than more than once a year at a football match.

[LuSiVe]

bifocart, on 03 November 2014 - 02:37 PM, said:

If people cant get it together to shut up for 60 seconds out of respect than god help us.

If this is peoples' only way of showing respect throughout the whole year then I think we are equally screwed ....