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#1 User is offline   The Earl of Chesterfield 

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Posted 01 April 2024 - 07:29 PM

My head says PC is offering squad players an opportunity.

My head says it's top class man management.

My head says most of those fielded today won't be Town players next season.

But my heart still grieves at watching us lose to another outfit who, metaphorically, are a five or less bloke having a one night stand with a nine or more lass 'cos she's had a few too many.

Make no mistake - Kiddie fans (literally, given so much of their pubescent behaviour) will be bragging 'We've had them!' as they watch us every week in the EFL.

Back to reality, though. Stockport knew what they were doing releasing Palmer. A high standard National League player who'll have no problem gettting a contract at another high standard National League club.

Same applies to Jeff King.

Clements too will easily get a deal at that level.

Freckleton? Still a lot to learn.

Oldaker ditto in terms of consistency. I can see a loan.

Hobson? He might've been a star at Kiddie but way down our pecking order. Another NL loan next season.

Curtis behind him.

Banks. Ollie Banks. Superb footballer. Played a huge role in our success. A genuine Town pedigree. Yet...

..I wonder if he'll get more first team football elsewhere. Even if that's at a different L2 club.

Joe Quigley's a cult figure scoring a laudable double figures largely from the bench. We all love his application and passion. However these last few games confirm why he is a last twenty man. An even more bit part player in the future. So a possible money move instead? I'd pat him on the back and wish him every success if so.

Jonesey has more than earned his place in CFC history. Sadly Father Time dictates we need a younger version.

All that said I have faith in Paul Cook to do the right thing. As he's improved our club every year since returning. As he did before.

It's frustrating. Irritating. Embarrassing, even. Though these games we're now watching are, in a sense, getting a head start on our next campaign...

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 01 April 2024 - 07:36 PM

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Posted 01 April 2024 - 07:39 PM

I'd have like someone to clarify the starting eleven and the bench.

Webb was offered the chance in the post match interview but passed making vague references to illness/knocks.

Generally the post match interviews on 1866 reveal more so I wonder if things clarified on that. Any idea why Cook was in the stand?
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Posted 01 April 2024 - 07:44 PM

Cook has a touchline ban for this game and next due to number of bookings
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Posted 01 April 2024 - 07:45 PM

View Postazul, on 01 April 2024 - 07:39 PM, said:

I'd have like someone to clarify the starting eleven and the bench.

Webb was offered the chance in the post match interview but passed making vague references to illness/knocks.

Generally the post match interviews on 1866 reveal more so I wonder if things clarified on that. Any idea why Cook was in the stand?


Cook was serving the first of a two game touchline ban for totting up yellow cards
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Posted 01 April 2024 - 07:50 PM

View PostBenno Spire, on 01 April 2024 - 07:45 PM, said:

Cook was serving the first of a two game touchline ban for totting up yellow cards



Again!
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Posted 01 April 2024 - 07:57 PM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 01 April 2024 - 07:50 PM, said:

Again!


Cook - sanctioned for passionately expressing himself on the touchline.

Rowe - a nasty piece of work charged with noncey offences.

Guess who's side you're on...
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Posted 01 April 2024 - 08:02 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 01 April 2024 - 07:29 PM, said:

My head says PC is offering squad players an opportunity.

My head says it's top class man management.

My head says most of those fielded today won't be Town players next season.

But my heart still grieves at watching us lose to another outfit who, metaphorically, are a five or less bloke having a one night stand with a nine or more lass 'cos she's had a few too many.

Make no mistake - Kiddie fans (literally, given so much of their pubescent behaviour) will be bragging 'We've had them!' as they watch us every week in the EFL.

Back to reality, though. Stockport knew what they were doing releasing Palmer. A high standard National League player who'll have no problem gettting a contract at another high standard National League club.

Same applies to Jeff King.

Clements too will easily get a deal at that level.

Freckleton? Still a lot to learn.

Oldaker ditto in terms of consistency. I can see a loan.

Hobson? He might've been a star at Kiddie but way down our pecking order. Another NL loan next season.

Curtis behind him.

Banks. Ollie Banks. Superb footballer. Played a huge role in our success. A genuine Town pedigree. Yet...

..I wonder if he'll get more first team football elsewhere. Even if that's at a different L2 club.

Joe Quigley's a cult figure scoring a laudable double figures largely from the bench. We all love his application and passion. However these last few games confirm why he is a last twenty man. An even more bit part player in the future. So a possible money move instead? I'd pat him on the back and wish him every success if so.

Jonesey has more than earned his place in CFC history. Sadly Father Time dictates we need a younger version.

All that said I have faith in Paul Cook to do the right thing. As he's improved our club every year since returning. As he did before.

It's frustrating. Irritating. Embarrassing, even. Though these games we're now watching are, in a sense, getting a head start on our next campaign...


Great post. I don’t want to go out with a whimper but we have the time to experiment.
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Posted 01 April 2024 - 08:16 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 01 April 2024 - 07:29 PM, said:

My head says PC is offering squad players an opportunity.

My head says it's top class man management.

My head says most of those fielded today won't be Town players next season.

But my heart still grieves at watching us lose to another outfit who, metaphorically, are a five or less bloke having a one night stand with a nine or more lass 'cos she's had a few too many.

Make no mistake - Kiddie fans (literally, given so much of their pubescent behaviour) will be bragging 'We've had them!' as they watch us every week in the EFL.

Back to reality, though. Stockport knew what they were doing releasing Palmer. A high standard National League player who'll have no problem gettting a contract at another high standard National League club.

Same applies to Jeff King.

Clements too will easily get a deal at that level.

Freckleton? Still a lot to learn.

Oldaker ditto in terms of consistency. I can see a loan.

Hobson? He might've been a star at Kiddie but way down our pecking order. Another NL loan next season.

Curtis behind him.

Banks. Ollie Banks. Superb footballer. Played a huge role in our success. A genuine Town pedigree. Yet...

..I wonder if he'll get more first team football elsewhere. Even if that's at a different L2 club.

Joe Quigley's a cult figure scoring a laudable double figures largely from the bench. We all love his application and passion. However these last few games confirm why he is a last twenty man. An even more bit part player in the future. So a possible money move instead? I'd pat him on the back and wish him every success if so.

Jonesey has more than earned his place in CFC history. Sadly Father Time dictates we need a younger version.

All that said I have faith in Paul Cook to do the right thing. As he's improved our club every year since returning. As he did before.

It's frustrating. Irritating. Embarrassing, even. Though these games we're now watching are, in a sense, getting a head start on our next campaign...


Couldn’t agree more

This post has been edited by Arthur Cox’s Boots: 01 April 2024 - 08:17 PM

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Posted 01 April 2024 - 09:08 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 01 April 2024 - 07:29 PM, said:

My head says PC is offering squad players an opportunity.

My head says it's top class man management.

My head says most of those fielded today won't be Town players next season.

But my heart still grieves at watching us lose to another outfit who, metaphorically, are a five or less bloke having a one night stand with a nine or more lass 'cos she's had a few too many.

Make no mistake - Kiddie fans (literally, given so much of their pubescent behaviour) will be bragging 'We've had them!' as they watch us every week in the EFL.

Back to reality, though. Stockport knew what they were doing releasing Palmer. A high standard National League player who'll have no problem gettting a contract at another high standard National League club.

Same applies to Jeff King.

Clements too will easily get a deal at that level.

Freckleton? Still a lot to learn.

Oldaker ditto in terms of consistency. I can see a loan.

Hobson? He might've been a star at Kiddie but way down our pecking order. Another NL loan next season.

Curtis behind him.

Banks. Ollie Banks. Superb footballer. Played a huge role in our success. A genuine Town pedigree. Yet...

..I wonder if he'll get more first team football elsewhere. Even if that's at a different L2 club.

Joe Quigley's a cult figure scoring a laudable double figures largely from the bench. We all love his application and passion. However these last few games confirm why he is a last twenty man. An even more bit part player in the future. So a possible money move instead? I'd pat him on the back and wish him every success if so.

Jonesey has more than earned his place in CFC history. Sadly Father Time dictates we need a younger version.

All that said I have faith in Paul Cook to do the right thing. As he's improved our club every year since returning. As he did before.

It's frustrating. Irritating. Embarrassing, even. Though these games we're now watching are, in a sense, getting a head start on our next campaign...


Great post, we need to be careful that a negative end to the season could impact on season ticket sales and fan momentum
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Posted 01 April 2024 - 09:08 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 01 April 2024 - 07:29 PM, said:

My head says PC is offering squad players an opportunity.

My head says it's top class man management.

My head says most of those fielded today won't be Town players next season.


But my heart still grieves at watching us lose to another outfit who, metaphorically, are a five or less bloke having a one night stand with a nine or more lass 'cos she's had a few too many.

Make no mistake - Kiddie fans (literally, given so much of their pubescent behaviour) will be bragging 'We've had them!' as they watch us every week in the EFL.

Back to reality, though. Stockport knew what they were doing releasing Palmer. A high standard National League player who'll have no problem gettting a contract at another high standard National League club.

Same applies to Jeff King.

Clements too will easily get a deal at that level.

Freckleton? Still a lot to learn.

Oldaker ditto in terms of consistency. I can see a loan.

Hobson? He might've been a star at Kiddie but way down our pecking order. Another NL loan next season.

Curtis behind him.

Banks. Ollie Banks. Superb footballer. Played a huge role in our success. A genuine Town pedigree. Yet...

..I wonder if he'll get more first team football elsewhere. Even if that's at a different L2 club.

Joe Quigley's a cult figure scoring a laudable double figures largely from the bench. We all love his application and passion. However these last few games confirm why he is a last twenty man. An even more bit part player in the future. So a possible money move instead? I'd pat him on the back and wish him every success if so.

Jonesey has more than earned his place in CFC history. Sadly Father Time dictates we need a younger version.

All that said I have faith in Paul Cook to do the right thing. As he's improved our club every year since returning. As he did before.

It's frustrating. Irritating. Embarrassing, even. Though these games we're now watching are, in a sense, getting a head start on our next campaign...


Agree with everything you said there.
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Posted 01 April 2024 - 09:44 PM

[quote name='The Earl of Chesterfield' timestamp='1711999785' post='1815540']
My head says PC is offering squad players an opportunity.

My head says it's top class man management.

My head says most of those fielded today won't be Town players next season.

But my heart still grieves at watching us lose to another outfit who, metaphorically, are a five or less bloke having a one night stand with a nine or more lass 'cos she's had a few too many.

Make no mistake - Kiddie fans (literally, given so much of their pubescent behaviour) will be bragging 'We've had them!' as they watch us every week in the EFL.

Back to reality, though. Stockport knew what they were doing releasing Palmer. A high standard National League player who'll have no problem gettting a contract at another high standard National League club.

Same applies to Jeff King.

Clements too will easily get a deal at that level.

Freckleton? Still a lot to learn.

Oldaker ditto in terms of consistency. I can see a loan.

Hobson? He might've been a star at Kiddie but way down our pecking order. Another NL loan next season.

Curtis behind him.

Banks. Ollie Banks. Superb footballer. Played a huge role in our success. A genuine Town pedigree. Yet...

..I wonder if he'll get more first team football elsewhere. Even if that's at a different L2 club.

Joe Quigley's a cult figure scoring a laudable double figures largely from the bench. We all love his application and passion. However these last few games confirm why he is a last twenty man. An even more bit part player in the future. So a possible money move instead? I'd pat him on the back and wish him every success if so.

Jonesey has more than earned his place in CFC history. Sadly Father Time dictates we need a younger version.

All that said I have faith in Paul Cook to do the right thing. As he's improved our club every year since returning. As he did before.

It's frustrating. Irritating. Embarrassing, even. Though these games we're now watching are, in a sense, getting a head start on our next campaign...
[Hi Chris I agree with most of this banksy the exception in a good side he does do well ,everyone else maybe Jones as a 20 minutes sub,as back up
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Posted 01 April 2024 - 10:59 PM

View PostBenno Spire, on 01 April 2024 - 09:08 PM, said:

Great post, we need to be careful that a negative end to the season could impact on season ticket sales and fan momentum

it won't, we have blown this league apart and done it in double quick time, we are serving out time this season now, if anyone is basing their commitment to the club's future based on a couple of games post winning the league then they can't be that committed in the first place. To win a league, any league with 5 games to spare should show just what a success the season has been.

next year we will require improvements, that is not in question, i am confident we will make the right moves and enjoy a decent season next year.
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Posted 02 April 2024 - 05:31 AM

It’s a bit like we’ve started pre season 3 months early. Whilst a little disappointing I’m finding it hard to get too wound up about it.
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Posted 02 April 2024 - 08:38 AM

View PostPhil V 72, on 02 April 2024 - 05:31 AM, said:

It’s a bit like we’ve started pre season 3 months early. Whilst a little disappointing I’m finding it hard to get too wound up about it.

In a round about way I think it’s good to find out some of these players aren’t good enough now, rather than in August and September when it’s too late.

I’m in agreement with Chris above, there’s a lot of work to do with this squad if we want to maintain momentum, keep those big crowds and upward trajectory going. It’s not as simple as thinking we will do ok, we want to be aiming for more than that.
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Posted 02 April 2024 - 08:54 AM

View PostCFC91, on 02 April 2024 - 08:38 AM, said:

In a round about way I think it’s good to find out some of these players aren’t good enough now, rather than in August and September when it’s too late.

I’m in agreement with Chris above, there’s a lot of work to do with this squad if we want to maintain momentum, keep those big crowds and upward trajectory going. It’s not as simple as thinking we will do ok, we want to be aiming for more than that.

Said as much on another thread. It's all well and good saying we've smashed the league and can now take foot off the gas, but, What about the casual walk ups who want to see us smash every team especially lower ones who we should easily. If they see poor games and losses they would more than likely not bother turning up and filling the stadium.
I am 100% confident PC will bring in at least 4 or 5 quality first team players for next season but don't let this momentum slip.
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Posted 02 April 2024 - 09:22 AM

Agree with that, look at how Notts County have done this season with a fairly decent squad, 19 defeats sees them 10 points off the playoffs and halfway up the table.

There undoubtedly will be some new faces in the squad and those struggling against the likes of York and Kidderminster, will either be loaned out if they're under contract/paid off or gone.
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Posted 02 April 2024 - 09:28 AM

View PostRN Blue, on 02 April 2024 - 09:22 AM, said:

Agree with that, look at how Notts County have done this season with a fairly decent squad, 19 defeats sees them 10 points off the playoffs and halfway up the table.

There undoubtedly will be some new faces in the squad and those struggling against the likes of York and Kidderminster, will either be loaned out if they're under contract/paid off or gone.

What the hell? You're getting rid of Tom and Mike?
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Posted 02 April 2024 - 07:17 PM

View PostCFC91, on 02 April 2024 - 08:38 AM, said:

In a round about way I think it’s good to find out some of these players aren’t good enough now, rather than in August and September when it’s too late.

I’m in agreement with Chris above, there’s a lot of work to do with this squad if we want to maintain momentum, keep those big crowds and upward trajectory going. It’s not as simple as thinking we will do ok, we want to be aiming for more than that.

Saturday was poor and far from good enough. However, this board was full of people calling for this player and that player to be given a run in the starting 11 after we achieved promotion, now they want the same players to be put on the dole!

Far too many supporters are getting excited and overreacting. Taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut is not Paul Cook's way and it's no longer our club's way, thankfully.
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Posted 02 April 2024 - 07:31 PM

View PostBlue5, on 02 April 2024 - 07:17 PM, said:

Saturday was poor and far from good enough. However, this board was full of people calling for this player and that player to be given a run in the starting 11 after we achieved promotion, now they want the same players to be put on the dole!

Far too many supporters are getting excited and overreacting. Taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut is not Paul Cook's way and it's no longer our club's way, thankfully.


I just keep thinking of playing in league two and all is well afterwards 😁. Do we need wholesale changes, nah, do we need a few additions to the squad, yes. Cook will sort it out, I've no doubt.
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Posted 03 April 2024 - 09:09 AM

View PostBenno Spire, on 01 April 2024 - 09:08 PM, said:

Great post, we need to be careful that a negative end to the season could impact on season ticket sales and fan momentum


Season ticket sales are up
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