[The Earl of Chesterfield]

https://www.bbc.co.u...es/crggq0jygq6o

But hey, 1:1...

[turrhall]

 Misnomer, on 06 June 2024 - 07:34 AM, said:

The UN put out the revised death figures. Simple maths tells you it's a 1:1 ratio.

The number of total dead is not 'revised', the different number is purely just the number of identified dead. They know there are thousands more who's remains haven't been identified yet - as mentioned in Goku's link

[Misnomer]

 turrhall, on 09 June 2024 - 11:03 AM, said:

The number of total dead is not 'revised', the different number is purely just the number of identified dead. They know there are thousands more who's remains haven't been identified yet - as mentioned in Goku's link

Eh? So, the 'different number' isn't revised, it's just a different number? Blimey, you should be in politics, pal. Did you do the COVID data for the BBC?

Yeah, Goku's link, 25 pages into Google 👍🏿

For starters, all figures are supplied by Hamas, and not based on independent data. However, the new figures offer a breakdown of fatalities, for whom full details have been documented.

The new figures reported by the UN OCHA, reduce by more than half the number of women and children that it previously said had been killed.

Apparently, Hamas don't supply death figures for combatants....but, from data supplied by Hamas to the UN, 'identified' registered deaths stood at: women (4.959) and children (7,797), or 52% of all deaths, from a revised total of 24'000 identified deaths. A 52% and 53% respective reduction for women and children, from the original figure of 34'000 total deaths, supplied by Hamas media sources. Meaning, approximately 11'000 of the dead are men; twice the amount of the women.

I mean, if you want to and, earring on the side of caution; you could conclude that a fair whack of those 11'000 men are likely to be Hamas terrorist combatants. Indeed, the IDF have suggested they've killed around 16'000 Hamas terrorists.... either that, or they are not the almighty army everyone is making them out to be. And that's where 1:1 ratio is concluded. You could also argue that the revised figures published by UN OCHA, only lead us to conclude that their previously published figures were unreliable at best, and false being the most likely outcome. That's what I've done. But, then again, I'm not an antisemitic 🇮🇱🇬🇧

From the UN regarding Hamas supplied data:

?United Nations teams in Gaza are unable to independently verify these figures, given the prevailing situation on the ground and the sheer number of fatalities. For this reason, all figures used by the UN clearly cite the Ministry of Health in Gaza as the source. The UN will verify these figures to the extent possible when conditions permit.?

What I find most disturbing is, people who are more than happy to identify with and support figures supplied by an appalling terrorist regime, that are not independently verified....just weird, very weird.

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[Goku]

(The link was literally the first result on Google for me, incredibly rare I?ll go to even the 2nd page)

[turrhall]

 Misnomer, on 09 June 2024 - 05:51 PM, said:

Eh? So, the 'different number' isn't revised, it's just a different number? Blimey, you should be in politics, pal. Did you do the COVID data for the BBC?

Yeah, Goku's link, 25 pages into Google 👍🏿

For starters, all figures are supplied by Hamas, and not based on independent data. However, the new figures offer a breakdown of fatalities, for whom full details have been documented.

The new figures reported by the UN OCHA, reduce by more than half the number of women and children that it previously said had been killed.

Apparently, Hamas don't supply death figures for combatants....but, from data supplied by Hamas to the UN, 'identified' registered deaths stood at: women (4.959) and children (7,797), or 52% of all deaths, from a revised total of 24'000 identified deaths. A 52% and 53% respective reduction for women and children, from the original figure of 34'000 total deaths, supplied by Hamas media sources. Meaning, approximately 11'000 of the dead are men; twice the amount of the women.

I mean, if you want to and, earring on the side of caution; you could conclude that a fair whack of those 11'000 men are likely to be Hamas terrorist combatants. Indeed, the IDF have suggested they've killed around 16'000 Hamas terrorists.... either that, or they are not the almighty army everyone is making them out to be. And that's where 1:1 ratio is concluded. You could also argue that the revised figures published by UN OCHA, only lead us to conclude that their previously published figures were unreliable at best, and false being the most likely outcome. That's what I've done. But, then again, I'm not an antisemitic 🇮🇱🇬🇧

From the UN regarding Hamas supplied data:

?United Nations teams in Gaza are unable to independently verify these figures, given the prevailing situation on the ground and the sheer number of fatalities. For this reason, all figures used by the UN clearly cite the Ministry of Health in Gaza as the source. The UN will verify these figures to the extent possible when conditions permit.?

What I find most disturbing is, people who are more than happy to identify with and support figures supplied by an appalling terrorist regime, that are not independently verified....just weird, very weird.

The 'revised' number is identified dead. Not total casualties. It's not a difficult concept.

Funny that you're willing to accept Israel's numbers are being correct, but not Hamas' - by your logic neither are 'independent'.

Even if Israel's numbers were correct, is 30k dead Palestians acceptable?

This post has been edited by turrhall: Today, 06:44 PM