[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Another lying scumbag getting exactly what he deserves: https://news.sky.com...victim-12666589

Meanwhile https://www.msn.com/...eak/ar-AA10dS91

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

https://www.bbc.co.u...canada-62499027

Tragic, truly tragic.

But not as tragic as the cranks and loons and tory MP's and even 'BB' contributors who think he's a hero...

[Wooden Spoon]

Also ironic that he says he was “raided” terminology designed arouse anger among his supporters - so they want to release the terms of the search warrant - but that would need trumps agreement.


Will he agree to prove himself “innocent” and the victim of a “witch hunt” or will he not agree because he doesn’t want people to see what the FBI have been looking for and taking away?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Wooden Spoon, on 12 August 2022 - 12:55 AM, said:

Also ironic that he says he was “raided” terminology designed arouse anger among his supporters - so they want to release the terms of the search warrant - but that would need trumps agreement.


Will he agree to prove himself “innocent” and the victim of a “witch hunt” or will he not agree because he doesn’t want people to see what the FBI have been looking for and taking away?

Can't help noticing parallels between 'witch hunt/stich up/infamy, infamy, they've all got it in f' me' rhetoric defending corrupt cultists on both sides the Atlantic...

[Wooden Spoon]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 12 August 2022 - 05:27 AM, said:

Can't help noticing parallels between 'witch hunt/stich up/infamy, infamy, they've all got it in f' me' rhetoric defending corrupt cultists on both sides the Atlantic...

Oh trumps taken it to a whole new level



The brazen bare faced rhino skin nature of of his lies and hypocrisy is truly breathtaking

[Mr Mercury]

Wooden Spoon, on 12 August 2022 - 11:41 AM, said:

Oh trumps taken it to a whole new level



The brazen bare faced rhino skin nature of of his lies and hypocrisy is truly breathtaking

I wouldn’t rule out him running again next time, and if so I wouldn’t rule out a second term for him. Biden seems to have been a disaster.

[Wooden Spoon]

Mr Mercury said:

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I wouldn't rule out him running again next time, and if so I wouldn't rule out a second term for him. Biden seems to have been a disaster.

Americans are crazy enough to vote for him again…


Dunno about Biden, he seems to be a level headed sensible sort of bloke to me…probably why many yanks think he’s a disaster.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Define "disaster"?

[Mr Mercury]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 12 August 2022 - 02:12 PM, said:

Define "disaster"?

An event that has unfortunate consequences.

[Mr Mercury]

Disastrous Joe Biden.

https://www.heritage...mental-disaster

https://www.dailynew...igated-disaster

https://www.columbia...as/10068256002/

https://www.dailymai...st-man-job.html

https://www.facebook...11040839033881/

https://theboar.org/2022/02/biden-4/

https://www.national...lmed-by-events/

The list really is endless, couple that with his obvious health issues and you can see why Americans seemingly aren’t as enamoured with Biden as some on this side of the pond would like to believe.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 12 August 2022 - 02:25 PM

[Johnnyspireite7]

Mr Mercury, on 12 August 2022 - 02:25 PM, said:

Disastrous Joe Biden.

https://www.heritage...mental-disaster

https://www.dailynew...igated-disaster

https://www.columbia...as/10068256002/

https://www.dailymai...st-man-job.html

https://www.facebook...11040839033881/

https://theboar.org/2022/02/biden-4/

https://www.national...lmed-by-events/

The list really is endless, couple that with his obvious health issues and you can see why Americans seemingly aren’t as enamoured with Biden as some on this side of the pond would like to believe.

You will note that most of those reports have come from a republican bias so have to be taken with a whole bucket of salt not just a pinch.

[Mr Mercury]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 12 August 2022 - 02:12 PM, said:

Define "disaster"?

An event that has unfortunate consequences.

[Mr Mercury]

Johnnyspireite7, on 12 August 2022 - 05:52 PM, said:

You will note that most of those reports have come from a republican bias so have to be taken with a whole bucket of salt not just a pinch.

Likewise any media source is from a certain political leaning. Once again it’s the case of..”I don’t agree with the reports, so I’ll criticise the source” , it’s no issue we all do it, I just admit it.

[azul]

Mr Mercury, on 12 August 2022 - 11:57 AM, said:

I wouldn’t rule out him running again next time, and if so I wouldn’t rule out a second term for him. Biden seems to have been a disaster.

No matter how much of a disaster Biden is perceived to be he has got more bills through congress than Trump ever did

[Mr Mercury]

azul, on 12 August 2022 - 10:00 PM, said:

No matter how much of a disaster Biden is perceived to be he has got more bills through congress than Trump ever did

I refer you to the post you replied to.

[azul]

Wooden Spoon, on 12 August 2022 - 02:03 PM, said:

Americans are crazy enough to vote for him again…


Dunno about Biden, he seems to be a level headed sensible sort of bloke to me…probably why many yanks think he’s a disaster.

If Americans votes for Trump or the republicans then America will be an authoritarian state in 6 years time and democracy will be gone.

This post has been edited by azul: 12 August 2022 - 10:19 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Mr Mercury, on 12 August 2022 - 07:16 PM, said:

Likewise any media source is from a certain political leaning. Once again it’s the case of..”I don’t agree with the reports, so I’ll criticise the source” , it’s no issue we all do it, I just admit it.

But how do you expect any kinda balance from the sources quoted? From supporters of a republican party even now denying realities we can all see and hear?

My take is things've got back to some sorta normality. The yank president no longer peddling lies and hypocrisy on a daily, maybe even hourly basis. No longer costing countless lives with Covid denial. No longer suggesting injecting bleach. No longer snubbing allies. No longer threatening to withdraw from NATO. No longer trashing treaties. No longer buddying up to Putin. No longer posting racist tropes. No longer prioritising the NRA over kids' lives. No longer riding roughshod over decency and democracy. No longer denying the election result and leading an attempted coup. No longer being subject to a succession of investigations only his own similarly corrupt party save him from.

No longer hoarding top secret documents at his own place.

So Biden makes mistakes. He's old. He's a democrat. Hardly enough for the same people dubbing Sturgeon and Drakeford 'despots' to label him a 'disaster'...

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 13 August 2022 - 06:35 AM

[Mr Mercury]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 13 August 2022 - 06:31 AM, said:

But how do you expect any kinda balance from the sources quoted? From supporters of a republican party even now denying realities we can all see and hear?

My take is things've got back to some sorta normality. The yank president no longer peddling lies and hypocrisy on a daily, maybe even hourly basis. No longer costing countless lives with Covid denial. No longer suggesting injecting bleach. No longer snubbing allies. No longer threatening to withdraw from NATO. No longer trashing treaties. No longer buddying up to Putin. No longer posting racist tropes. No longer prioritising the NRA over kids' lives. No longer riding roughshod over decency and democracy. No longer denying the election result and leading an attempted coup. No longer being subject to a succession of investigations only his own similarly corrupt party save him from.

No longer hoarding top secret documents at his own place.

So Biden makes mistakes. He's old. He's a democrat. Hardly enough for the same people dubbing Sturgeon and Drakeford 'despots' to label him a 'disaster'...

The criticism is hardly going to come from Biden supporters now is it? So once again it’s a view you don’t, or won’t subscribe to, so you decry the source.

[Wooden Spoon]

Mr Mercury said:

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Disastrous Joe Biden.

https://www.heritage...mental-disaster

https://www.dailynew...igated-disaster

https://www.columbia...as/10068256002/

https://www.dailymai...st-man-job.html

https://www.facebook...11040839033881/

https://theboar.org/2022/02/biden-4/

https://www.national...lmed-by-events/

The list really is endless, couple that with his obvious health issues and you can see why Americans seemingly aren’t as enamoured with Biden as some on this side of the pond would like to believe.

To be fair Mark, if you take away the shambolic withdrawal from Afghanistan, the rest of the “points” made are just noise….”clean up his mess” ….”he’s been a disaster” “violence in democrat cities” - in a country where gun violence is the highest in the world…in all US cities.


To counter all of that I’d say he’s handled the Ukraine situation as well as any other world leader, probably better than most - huge logistical and financial support while being careful to maintain a position that doesn’t provoke a wider war.


He’s managed to get a package through the house to address climate change - a hugely significant step in a country like America.


He’s introduced the toughest gun controls, by the way of background checks in U.S history - another significant step


It’s probably the climate bill and gun purchase background checks being introduced that the republican press refer to when saying “clean up his mess”

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Mr Mercury, on 13 August 2022 - 07:24 AM, said:

The criticism is hardly going to come from Biden supporters now is it? So once again it’s a view you don’t, or won’t subscribe to, so you decry the source.

Think you're confusing opinion with facts, pal.

The OPINION of those right wing sources you referenced is anti Biden. Well yeah, of course it is. In the same way right wing outlets are anti Labour, unions, strikes, and anything else that might challenge the rich getting richer.

But my extremely limited list of Trump's corruption - I din't even mention the collection of associates now found guilty of one crime or another - are facts. All too well documented facts.

So please, in the interest of balance, can you go through his ongoing 'disasters' and offer anything even approaching as despicable on Biden's part?