[Larkin around]

I'm playing devil's advocate here, but;

Did the inclusions of Hartley, Kerry & Dowson emphasise Robertson's, Niven's & Ward's shortcomings today?

I thought that they all offered something a bit less one-dimensional, but are they the 'long-term' answers?

[Town_Fan]

MurrayBu, on Feb 23 2008, 06:14 PM, said:

I'm playing devil's advocate here, but;

Did the inclusions of Hartley, Kerry & Dowson emphasise Robertson's, Niven's & Ward's shortcomings today?

I thought that they all offered something a bit less one-dimensional, but are they the 'long-term' answers?

What was interesting was that todays performance showed a battling quality ironically without our most battling midfielder. I think Ward should have come on instead of Fletcher as his pace would have stretched a static Brentford backline. Using Fletcher gave the onus to Brentford imho.

[BlueRover52]

MurrayBu, on Feb 23 2008, 06:14 PM, said:

I'm playing devil's advocate here, but;

Did the inclusions of Hartley, Kerry & Dowson emphasise Robertson's, Niven's & Ward's shortcomings today?

I thought that they all offered something a bit less one-dimensional, but are they the 'long-term' answers?

Wouldn't think any of them would be available for nowt!

[big town man]

kerry's contract is up in the summer would be great if we could get him...a local lad who will play with somthing under the shirt...

[chloe]

i think today that ward should of deffantly bin brought on instead of fletcher because flecther is not fast at all and even though lester is pure class he does not have pase and when dowson was tuck 0ff there was no pace up front and there was no one to run around after the ball

[spireiteluke]

chloe, on Feb 23 2008, 06:59 PM, said:

i think today that ward should of deffantly bin brought on instead of fletcher because flecther is not fast at all and even though lester is pure class he does not have pase and when dowson was tuck 0ff there was no pace up front and there was no one to run around after the ball

Some spelling lessons might be needed for you, lol but yes I agree Ward shouldve been brought on rather than Fletcher and also Niven shouldve started rather than Winter.

[NG15Blue]

spireiteluke, on Feb 23 2008, 07:29 PM, said:

Some spelling lessons might be needed for you, lol but yes I agree Ward shouldve been brought on rather than Fletcher and also Niven shouldve started rather than Winter.

yawn

[dalekpete]

I suspect Lee had one eye on defending set-pieces when he chose Fletcher as sub.

[Wooden Spoon]

spireiteluke, on Feb 23 2008, 07:29 PM, said:

Some spelling lessons might be needed for you, lol but yes I agree Ward shouldve been brought on rather than Fletcher and also Niven shouldve started rather than Winter.

If you can understand the point being made that enough, is it not?

[lindave]

Ricco was right bringing on Fletch when he did against their big thugs, we started to win more balls up front and the pressure was taken off Jack. (Fletch was by far the motm at Hereford and was unlucky to be left out at the start). Apart from his cracking goal move with jack,Dowson put a lot of effort in at the start,but was getting muscled out in the 2nd half.

[SpireiteDel]

It's a hard one this. All 3 played well today and I would be happy to have them in the team every week.

However, I would always have Niv in team as well due to his work rate and effort.

I find Ward to be a bit hit and miss but again, would not really want to see him go as his presence does cause many defences problems.

Gregor on the other hand......I haven't rated him since seeing him at Chester 1st game of season. Imo, I don't think he's strong enough to be at the back and wouldn't really miss him.

[dim view]

MurrayBu, on Feb 23 2008, 06:14 PM, said:

I'm playing devil's advocate here, but;

Did the inclusions of Hartley, Kerry & Dowson emphasise Robertson's, Niven's & Ward's shortcomings today?

I thought that they all offered something a bit less one-dimensional, but are they the 'long-term' answers?

It would be far more interesting to compare them to O'Hare, Davies, and Rooney.
Is the squad now stronger?.
Kerry is definitely better than Davies. Far more combative and aware.

Dowson is quicker than Rooney, but we can only guess to whether he will have a better goal ratio. Of the three he seems least suited at the moment to senior football, but away matches where there is much more space might suit him alot more. From his speed and movement I would say he has much more potential than Rooney, but he's got to develop some toughness.

Hartley looked tough and uncompromising, but lacked pace. He barked instructions to the back 4 all game, so that's a step in the right direction, but he reminded me of so many premiership rejects - not big or fast enough to be a centre half, and not creative enough to be a fullback. My order for left back would be Robertson, Hartley, O'Hare.
And yes, the squad is stronger.

[Red Rose Blue]

dim view, on Feb 23 2008, 11:42 PM, said:

My order for left back would be Robertson, Hartley, O'Hare.

I couldnt go today, but if Hartley's a worse bet than Robertson, I cant believe Sunderland give him stable room

[bluespireite]

MP-Spire, on Feb 23 2008, 09:27 PM, said:

Murray,

I thought all the new lads did very well, I was particularly impressed with the left back, who certainly doesn't take any prisoners. However, in fairness to Del, Gregor & Wardie, Brentford's performance was p poor, ours wasn't much better, but we got the win we so badly needed.

We'll take em all ugly now.

Brentford's performance was 'p poor' because we helped make it so. Give the lads some credit.

[Aspire_webby]

chloe, on Feb 23 2008, 06:59 PM, said:

i think today that ward should of deffantly bin brought on instead of fletcher because flecther is not fast at all and even though lester is pure class he does not have pase and when dowson was tuck 0ff there was no pace up front and there was no one to run around after the ball

We had no wide players so our only option seemd to be to wallop the ball forward (how many times did Roche throw the ball out today??? ) Fletcher makes absolute sense in that context - though i agree with you that a fast tricky player would be my normal choice.

[forevablue]

death, on Feb 23 2008, 08:37 PM, said:

If you can understand the point being made that enough, is it not?

Not always, there as 2 b a stan dad u no or els wer wil iten dup?

[Bugerov]

bluespireite, on Feb 24 2008, 12:12 AM, said:

Brentford's performance was 'p poor' because we helped make it so. Give the lads some credit.

Lets not forget they were unbeaten in 10 before today so they were a form team

[PositiveOmen]

forevablue, on Feb 24 2008, 12:32 AM, said:

Not always, there as 2 b a stan dad u no or els wer wil iten dup?

Thats not only bad english, but bad text, dear oh dear

[Wooden Spoon]

forevablue, on Feb 24 2008, 12:32 AM, said:

Not always, there as 2 b a stan dad u no or els wer wil iten dup?

rubbish attempt at textin