[azul]

 ronpowellsbutler, on 13 March 2020 - 07:08 PM, said:

I might be out on a limb here but if we stop two or three thousand going to a game what are we going to do instead ?

Shall we go to the pub, shops, garden centre where there will be absolutely no contact with the outside world ....?

That isn’t really going out on a limb. It is common doctrine in this country

What is plain is that China has got it under control (at least in the short term). I see tonight that they are sending medical teams, equipment and supplies to Italy

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

 azul, on 13 March 2020 - 07:20 PM, said:

Their heath service hasn’t collapsed yet

Figures also indicate that the average age of people needing serious medical intervention is 60

It will soon. Like everything else in Italy.

Because they're rather prone to panicking. We've been coping quite well so far. By doing the opposite.

[azul]

 KevinHasLeftTheBuilding, on 13 March 2020 - 07:25 PM, said:

It will soon. Like everything else in Italy.

Because they're rather prone to panicking. We've been coping quite well so far. By doing the opposite.

Pathetic stereotyping

You obviously don’t have older parents or grandparents or you don’t care about them

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

 azul, on 13 March 2020 - 07:25 PM, said:

That isn’t really going out on a limb. It is common doctrine in this country

What is plain is that China has got it under control (at least in the short term). I see tonight that they are sending medical teams, equipment and supplies to Italy

A purely political move by the Chinese. And if you trust any stats coming from the C.C.P., you may already have the virus and delirium is setting in.

 azul, on 13 March 2020 - 07:27 PM, said:

Pathetic stereotyping

You obviously don’t have older parents or grandparents or you don’t care about them

Jog on. The Italian state is in constant disaster mode. Common knowledge. A recession will kill as many old people. Get a grip.

ps. The likelihood of me having parents younger than me is slim. My grandparents are dead. They saw out two World Wars and fought in one. They would also have told you to get a grip.

This post has been edited by KevinHasLeftTheBuilding: 13 March 2020 - 07:32 PM

[ronpowellsbutler]

 KevinHasLeftTheBuilding, on 13 March 2020 - 07:01 PM, said:

Age 0-29: 0%
30-49: 0.1%
50-59: 0.6%
60-69: 2.7%
70-79: 9.6%
80-89: 16.6%
90+: 19%

Age of mortality for Covid 19 in Italy.

People need to get a grip and stop demanding measures that will actually mess up the lives of people who aren't nearly dead already

 KevinHasLeftTheBuilding, on 13 March 2020 - 07:01 PM, said:

Age 0-29: 0%
30-49: 0.1%
50-59: 0.6%
60-69: 2.7%
70-79: 9.6%
80-89: 16.6%
90+: 19%

Age of mortality for Covid 19 in Italy.

People need to get a grip and stop demanding measures that will actually mess up the lives of people who aren't nearly dead already

But the percentages only add up to about 50 - ??

This post has been edited by ronpowellsbutler: 13 March 2020 - 07:33 PM

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 ronpowellsbutler, on 13 March 2020 - 07:32 PM, said:

But the percentages only add up to about 50 - ??

I suspect it means that 17% of people above 80 who have contracted the virus have died so far (for example)

Not the percentage who have died of it (by age group). So it doesn’t need to add up to 100%

This post has been edited by azul: 13 March 2020 - 07:54 PM

[Stockholm Spireite]

 KevinHasLeftTheBuilding, on 13 March 2020 - 07:25 PM, said:

It will soon. Like everything else in Italy.

Because they're rather prone to panicking. We've been coping quite well so far. By doing the opposite.

Sorry mate, but that's bo//ock$. I've been living in Rome a few months and coaching over on a short term basis.

There is no panic over here.

Only shops and pharmacies are open in the day as everything else is shut down. Corner and small local shops can operate a "one in, one out" policy in order to mitigate contact with others. Shoppers wait outside, 1m apart until it's their turn. No bulk buying allowed, just but what you need.

Travel is still allowed to and from work on a restricted public service or go in your own vehicle.

Public gatherings not allowed. We are encouraged to stay home but are NOT under house arrest. We can walk around if we carry paperwork with us to say it's an essential journey (work, shopping) and exercise close to home (i'm just walking round the block for fresh air when not watching all the Marvel movies in sequence).

Mortgage payments and energy bills have just been suspended by the goverment.

Everyone just seems to be getting on with it and is calm. Carefully worded government announcements havd been well received. No senior politician has suggested we thin the herd by just taking on the chin, nor have they said prepare to lose loved ones in the near future. Panic? Panic my a$$...

There's been no panic buying or "combat in the aisles" in supermarkets, so I'll ask again about who's really panicking?

A mate of mine wrote this:

As of yesterday...
Total UK population: 66.44 million.
Total UK COVID19 cases: 596
Total UK deaths: 10.
Even if 60,000 people had it in the UK,
Thats still 0.09% of the population.

Calm yourself. There's far worse out there.

[Spire-Power]

As things stand the NL is the only football that can be watched on television. Maybe BT sport will show more games before the inevitable ban comes in?

[Westbars Spireite]

 ronpowellsbutler, on 13 March 2020 - 07:08 PM, said:

I might be out on a limb here but if we stop two or three thousand going to a game what are we going to do instead ?

Shall we go to the pub, shops, garden centre where there will be absolutely no contact with the outside world ....?

Azul's renting me his bound copies of Razzle 1983-1985 so I'm sorted until Glastonbury.

[Spire-Power]

Make a date with the brassy brides of Britain
The altogether ruder readers' wives
Who put down their needles and their knitting
At the doorway to our dismal daily lives

The fablon top scenarios of passion
Nipples peep through holes in leatherette
They seem to be saying in their fashion
'I'm freezing Charlie - haven't ya finished yet?'

Cold flesh the colour of potatoes
In an Instamatic living room of sin
All the required apparatus
Too bad they couldn't fit her head in

In latex pyjamas with bananas going ape
Their identities are cunningly disguised
By a six-inch strip of insulation tape
Strategically stuck across their eyes

Wives from Inverness to inner London
Prettiness and pimples co-exist
Pictorially wife-swapping with someone
Who's happily married to his wrist

By our nation's greatest poet, JC Clarke

[azul]

 Westbars Spireite, on 13 March 2020 - 08:20 PM, said:

Azul's renting me his bound copies of Razzle 1983-1985 so I'm sorted until Glastonbury.

Razzle’s were a trashy publication. I’ll trade the entire collection for 3 bog rolls.

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

[quote name='Stockholm Spireite' timestamp='1584130116' post='1511290']
Sorry mate, but that's bo//ock$. I've been living in Rome a few months and coaching over on a short term basis.

There is no panic over here.

Only shops and pharmacies are open in the day as everything else is shut down. Corner and small local shops can operate a "one in, one out" policy in order to mitigate contact with others. Shoppers wait outside, 1m apart until it's their turn. No bulk buying allowed, just but what you need.

Travel is still allowed to and from work on a restricted public service or go in your own vehicle.

Public gatherings not allowed. We are encouraged to stay home but are NOT under house arrest. We can walk around if we carry paperwork with us to say it's an essential journey (work, shopping) and exercise close to home (i'm just walking round the block for fresh air when not watching all the Marvel movies in sequence).

Mortgage payments and energy bills have just been suspended by the goverment.

Everyone just seems to be getting on with it and is calm. Carefully worded government announcements havd been well received. No senior politician has suggested we thin the herd by just taking on the chin, nor have they said prepare to lose loved ones in the near future. Panic? Panic my a$$...

There's been no panic buying or "combat in the aisles" in supermarkets, so I'll ask again about who's really panicking?

A mate of mine wrote this:

As of yesterday...
Total UK population: 66.44 million.
Total UK COVID19 cases: 596
Total UK deaths: 10.
Even if 60,000 people had it in the UK,
Thats still 0.09% of the population.

Calm yourself. There's far worse out there.


[/quot My whole point is people are over reacting. And I didn't mean to imply the people of Italy were panicking. Just that their governments tend to lurch from one disaster to another. And make decisions in haste. Like hospitalising younger victims of the disease and thus exposing the sick and elderly.

This post has been edited by KevinHasLeftTheBuilding: 13 March 2020 - 08:47 PM

[Stockholm Spireite]

[/quot My whole point is people are over reacting. And I didn't mean to imply the people of Italy were panicking. Just that their governments tend to lurch from one disaster to another. And make decisions in haste. Like hospitalising younger victims of the disease and thus exposing the sick and elderly.
[/quote]

You said their health service is about to collapse. It's not. It is, however, receiving help from the rest of the EU
You said they are prone to panicking.

You now say they made decisions in haste like treating younger victims before older ones.

Hospitals treat people as they arrive, that's what triage is - if a young person is admitted with a more serious case than an older person, they are seen first.

[azul]

 KevinHasLeftTheBuilding, on 13 March 2020 - 08:44 PM, said:

[/quot My whole point is people are over reacting. And I didn't mean to imply the people of Italy were panicking. Just that their governments tend to lurch from one disaster to another. And make decisions in haste. Like hospitalising younger victims of the disease and thus exposing the sick and elderly.

Well that was a radical edit and just as well

[azul]

 Stockholm Spireite, on 13 March 2020 - 09:09 PM, said:

You said their health service is about to collapse. It's not. It is, however, receiving help from the rest of the EU
You said they are prone to panicking.

You now say they made decisions in haste like treating younger victims before older ones.

Hospitals treat people as they arrive, that's what triage is - if a young person is admitted with a more serious case than an older person, they are seen first.

It is widely acknowledged that health care in Italy is top notch especially in the North. However anyone watching a decent news channels can here Italian doctors beseeching other countries to take note and take action.

Watching Channel 4 tonight showed patients in tents covered in thermal blankets. Perhaps Italy will turn out to be lucky because they were hit early and had identifiable clusters

[ronpowellsbutler]

 east-stand-is, on 13 March 2020 - 03:24 PM, said:

Yet Solihull v Harrogate is postponed tonight as 4 of the Harrogate staff are in isolation for the virus...we played them last week. Shocking decision in my opinion by the league.

Boreham Wood game off, connections with Arsenal.
Hardly a crowded place, average attendace 750.

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 ronpowellsbutler, on 13 March 2020 - 09:23 PM, said:

Boreham Wood game off, connections with Arsenal.
Hardly a crowded place, average attendace 750.

The NL stance is hopeless - pressure will tell after this weekend - what are we going to do after that - sex or magazines?

I gave no options, magazines for me☹️

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

 azul, on 13 March 2020 - 09:10 PM, said:

Well that was a radical edit and just as well

If you weren't so old and obsolete you could have screenshotted it

[Spire-Power]

He's only just turned 60!

[azul]

 KevinHasLeftTheBuilding, on 13 March 2020 - 09:31 PM, said:

If you weren't so old and obsolete you could have screenshotted it

Volume and side button on an iPhone

 Spire-Power, on 13 March 2020 - 09:35 PM, said:

He's only just turned 60!

That’s my grandchildren