[howardb]

moondog, on 27 January 2021 - 12:08 PM, said:

National League North and South clubs informed league to continue as Normal on 6th February

https://twitter.com/...9166294018?s=19

How bad would that look ? North and South resuming and our division packing in?

Surely will add pressure to clubs in our division to carry on (maybe scope for part loan/part grant) because the clubs below will want promotion and the likes of Dover (who won last night) will still fancy their chances of escaping

[hewittfan]

moondog, on 27 January 2021 - 12:08 PM, said:

National League North and South clubs informed league to continue as Normal on 6th February

https://twitter.com/...9166294018?s=19

As one of the replies to that tweet says, in the absence of grants, surely they'll just refuse again.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Maybe I'm naively over-simplifying here.

But surely it's case of the government paying eleven million in a grant or spending several millions in furlough payments. Not to mention the incalculable number of knock-on costs.

They found billions for crony contracts, multi-millions when backed into an embarrassing corner by Marcus Rashford and even more multi-millions when the fishing industry suffered Brexit chaos last week.

Okay, the NL are probably equally culpable, but it looks like straightforward maths to me...

[moondog]

hewittfan, on 27 January 2021 - 01:35 PM, said:

As one of the replies to that tweet says, in the absence of grants, surely they'll just refuse again.

Yep, sounds like the league have given up trying to negotiate a change a stance

[moondog]

Official government announcement just released.


https://www.gov.uk/g...l-league-system

[LondonBlue]

So if I’ve read this correctly.

Steps 3-6 get grants.

Steps 1&2 get a low interest loan OR a grant but will have to argue their case?

What a sh1tshow. Honestly. Imagine 3-6 goes ahead and NL / NL N&S get canned.

[isleaiw1]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 27 January 2021 - 01:43 PM, said:

Maybe I'm naively over-simplifying here.

But surely it's case of the government paying eleven million in a grant or spending several millions in furlough payments. Not to mention the incalculable number of knock-on costs.

They found billions for crony contracts, multi-millions when backed into an embarrassing corner by Marcus Rashford and even more multi-millions when the fishing industry suffered Brexit chaos last week.

Okay, the NL are probably equally culpable, but it looks like straightforward maths to me...

The problem is Chris there are many other businesses out there that have had no grants, nothing to replace their revenue, no sources of income and they would probably argue that they are more deserving than football..... I get that they are going to pay one way or another but they have to consider the wider knock on effect...

The NL Board convinced clubs to start the season with no fans without really understanding the package on offer. They are more than equally culpable (and lets leave the politics to off topic / personal section)

[Mr Mercury]

LondonBlue, on 27 January 2021 - 01:58 PM, said:

So if I’ve read this correctly.

Steps 3-6 get grants.

Steps 1&2 get a low interest loan OR a grant but will have to argue their case?

What a sh1tshow. Honestly. Imagine 3-6 goes ahead and NL / NL N&S get canned.

I thought steps 3-6 were from L1, step3, L2 step 4, NL step 5 and NL N&S step 6?

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 27 January 2021 - 02:10 PM

[moondog]

Mr Mercury, on 27 January 2021 - 02:09 PM, said:

I thought steps 3-6 were from L1, step3, L2 step 4, NL step 5 and NL N&S step 6?

No this is non league steps, where we are step 1

[azul]

LondonBlue, on 27 January 2021 - 01:58 PM, said:

So if I’ve read this correctly.

Steps 3-6 get grants.

Steps 1&2 get a low interest loan OR a grant but will have to argue their case?

What a sh1tshow. Honestly. Imagine 3-6 goes ahead and NL / NL N&S get canned.

Not sure that will allow steps 3-6 to carry on, but anyway that’s a good thing, clubs liquidate over 10K at that level.

Let’s be clear though, we (the NL) have shat our own bed misusing the initial monies

[Mr Mercury]

moondog, on 27 January 2021 - 02:11 PM, said:

No this is non league steps, where we are step 1




No this is non league steps, where we are step 1

Thanks moondog.

[moondog]

moondog, on 27 January 2021 - 01:51 PM, said:

Official government announcement just released.


https://www.gov.uk/g...l-league-system

Sounds like we will get more money, but fear we will be screwed by the league not continuing


Sports Minister Nigel Huddleston said:

“We promised to support sports and target help to where it’s most needed. Today we continue to deliver on that with further support for National League football clubs.

“The National League has already benefited from the Government support schemes through a £10 million Government-brokered cash partnership with the National Lottery, and there will be more support for the bigger clubs on the way.

[azul]

Mr Mercury, on 27 January 2021 - 02:09 PM, said:

I thought steps 3-6 were from L1, step3, L2 step 4, NL step 5 and NL N&S step 6?

Wake up - we are talking ‘steps’ not ‘tiers’

Edit: don’t thank me

This post has been edited by azul: 27 January 2021 - 02:15 PM

[Mr Mercury]

azul, on 27 January 2021 - 02:14 PM, said:

Wake up - we are talking ‘steps’ not ‘tiers’

Edit: don’t thank me

Grow up.

[azul]

Mr Mercury, on 27 January 2021 - 02:18 PM, said:

Grow up.

Don’t be like that - we are step 1 of non league but tier 5 of the football pyramid - I thought you didn’t release that

[azul]

moondog, on 27 January 2021 - 02:13 PM, said:

Sounds like we will get more money, but fear we will be screwed by the league not continuing


Sports Minister Nigel Huddleston said:

“We promised to support sports and target help to where it’s most needed. Today we continue to deliver on that with further support for National League football clubs.

“The National League has already benefited from the Government support schemes through a £10 million Government-brokered cash partnership with the National Lottery, and there will be more support for the bigger clubs on the way.

That statement adds some confusion does it not...

Loans for the NL to continue
Cash for bigger clubs ( is that only if we continue?)
No club goes bust (so clubs will get grants if they really need it)

Hope our transfer activity doesn’t raise eyebrows

This post has been edited by azul: 27 January 2021 - 02:25 PM

[dim view]

moondog, on 27 January 2021 - 02:13 PM, said:

Sounds like we will get more money, but fear we will be screwed by the league not continuing


Sports Minister Nigel Huddleston said:

“We promised to support sports and target help to where it’s most needed. Today we continue to deliver on that with further support for National League football clubs.

“The National League has already benefited from the Government support schemes through a £10 million Government-brokered cash partnership with the National Lottery, and there will be more support for the bigger clubs on the way.

So, we need people with the necessary skill set to successfully interpret the rules for getting a grant, assuming the rules have been set out. I'd back our Board, perhaps assisted by Phil T, to come good.

[moondog]

azul, on 27 January 2021 - 02:23 PM, said:

That statement adds some confusion does it not...

Loans for the NL to continue
Cash for bigger clubs ( is that only if we continue?)
No club goes bust (so clubs will get grants if they really need it)

Hope our transfer activity doesn’t raise eyebrows

Whilst I think we didn't show the caution we should have, I think we ought to be able to explain the transfer activity as normal trading activity expecting we would be shipping players out.


For me the issue is if the league stops we won't qualify for replacement funding and will be screwed with 12 new players we can't furlough

dim view, on 27 January 2021 - 02:27 PM, said:

So, we need people with the necessary skill set to successfully interpret the rules for getting a grant, assuming the rules have been set out. I'd back our Board, perhaps assisted by Phil T, to come good.

Yes one thing in our favour is we have a board experienced in obtaining grants 

[isleaiw1]

azul, on 27 January 2021 - 02:20 PM, said:

Don’t be like that - we are step 1 of non league but tier 5 of the football pyramid - I thought you didn’t release that

Realise not release.

If you are going to go around correcting people at least check your spelling / autocorrect first...

[isleaiw1]

azul, on 27 January 2021 - 02:23 PM, said:

That statement adds some confusion does it not...

Loans for the NL to continue
Cash for bigger clubs ( is that only if we continue?)
No club goes bust (so clubs will get grants if they really need it)

Hope our transfer activity doesn’t raise eyebrows

I would suggest that our transfer activity doesnt suggest we are short of cash and we put out a statement saying we would carry on whilst taking a loan, so now suggesting we NEED a grant will be B****Y hard work....