[azul]

JonB, on 21 February 2024 - 08:42 AM, said:

As others have said Colclough seemed keen to come back on initially so he also didnt think it was that bad.

Jacobs had to help lift him off the pitch. He looked in real pain as he passed the South Stand on his trek around half the perimeter of the pitch.

[metallilad]

azul, on 21 February 2024 - 11:38 AM, said:

Jacobs had to help lift him off the pitch. He looked in real pain as he passed the South Stand on his trek around half the perimeter of the pitch.

Making him walk around the pitch with an ankle injury was just stupid.

[azul]

metallilad, on 21 February 2024 - 12:33 PM, said:

Making him walk around the pitch with an ankle injury was just stupid.

It’s a good idea in theory - discourages players/physios from cheating, but when a platey needs two people to take him off……..

As you say plain stupid.

[calvin plummers socks]

azul, on 21 February 2024 - 12:36 PM, said:

It’s a good idea in theory - discourages players/physios from cheating, but when a platey needs two people to take him off……..

As you say plain stupid.

How do you suggest the player leaves the field?

[fishini]

calvin plummers socks, on 21 February 2024 - 01:02 PM, said:

How do you suggest the player leaves the field?

Stretcher or two aides

[azul]

fishini, on 21 February 2024 - 01:07 PM, said:

Stretcher or two aides

I think he is being deliberately being obtuse.

He had to go off the pitch at the nearest point to where he was injured which in this case was the opposite side of the ground to where the changing rooms are. As he is perfectly aware this rule was brought into prevent additional time wasting by players and medical staff. This rule is not always applied and needing two people to cart him probably should’ve alerted the referee to the severity of the injury.

[calvin plummers socks]

azul, on 21 February 2024 - 01:19 PM, said:

I think he is being deliberately being obtuse.

He had to go off the pitch at the nearest point to where he was injured which in this case was the opposite side of the ground to where the changing rooms are. As he is perfectly aware this rule was brought into prevent additional time wasting by players and medical staff. This rule is not always applied and needing two people to cart him probably should’ve alerted the referee to the severity of the injury.

No I’m not.
A player doesn’t have to leave at the nearest point. A physio can overrule a referee is any circumstance relating to player safety (at all levels).
Agreed it may have helped to have a couple of people carry him off - but if a player walks off by his own volition he always will be encouraged to do so (as the injury following the initial short triage period would look as though it wouldn’t be bad to do so).
A stretcher if available would only be used for lower leg fractures or other (worse) conditions)- but only if suitable trained staff are pitchside. An ankle injury would never really merit a stretcher at any level

[Mr Mercury]

calvin plummers socks, on 21 February 2024 - 01:26 PM, said:

No I’m not.
A player doesn’t have to leave at the nearest point. A physio can overrule a referee is any circumstance relating to player safety (at all levels).
Agreed it may have helped to have a couple of people carry him off - but if a player walks off by his own volition he always will be encouraged to do so (as the injury following the initial short triage period would look as though it wouldn’t be bad to do so).
A stretcher if available would only be used for lower leg fractures or other (worse) conditions)- but only if suitable trained staff are pitchside. An ankle injury would never really merit a stretcher at any level

A broken ankle wouldn’t merit a stretcher?

[clarevoyant.]

calvin plummers socks, on 21 February 2024 - 01:26 PM, said:

No I’m not.
A player doesn’t have to leave at the nearest point. A physio can overrule a referee is any circumstance relating to player safety (at all levels).
Agreed it may have helped to have a couple of people carry him off - but if a player walks off by his own volition he always will be encouraged to do so (as the injury following the initial short triage period would look as though it wouldn’t be bad to do so).
A stretcher if available would only be used for lower leg fractures or other (worse) conditions)- but only if suitable trained staff are pitchside. An ankle injury would never really merit a stretcher at any level

That's a major problem though, "a physio can overrule a referee". When so many physios undermine their professional status by cowtailing to the cheating demands of the coaches and become COMPLICIT to cheating by using varying methods to delay the gamee.

[calvin plummers socks]

Mr Mercury, on 21 February 2024 - 01:31 PM, said:

A broken ankle wouldn’t merit a stretcher?

No not ordinarily.
Unless a compound fracture when a splint etc would be applied. These thankfully so rare.
But with that the player wouldn’t of course be able to walk.

[azul]

Mr Mercury, on 21 February 2024 - 01:31 PM, said:

A broken ankle wouldn’t merit a stretcher?

I walked around on a broken ankle for 3 days and when I finally went to the doctor he bollocked me for doing so. Being able to walk has nothing to do with the severity of the injury likelihood of aggravating it.

The one thing that I agree with is it is the medical staffs decision of what is appropriate and if all that is around is CPS, we are in deep ****

[calvin plummers socks]

azul, on 21 February 2024 - 01:42 PM, said:

I walked around on a broken ankle for 3 days and when I finally went to the doctor he bollocked me for doing so. Being able to walk has nothing to do with the severity of the injury likelihood of aggravating it.

The one thing that I agree with is it is the medical staffs decision of what is appropriate and if all that is around is CPS, we are in deep ****

Why the need for a personal insult (yet again)? Did I sleep with your mum and never all her again or something? Or are you just resorting to type)?

[azul]

As a side issue to CPS’s nonsense, where have the medical staff gone? Don’t the St John’s ambulance attend anymore?

calvin plummers socks, on 21 February 2024 - 01:49 PM, said:

Why the need for a personal insult (yet again)? Did I sleep with your mum and never all her again or something? Or are you just resorting to type)?

Funny how people who dish it out continually are sensitive to receiving it.

[calvin plummers socks]

azul, on 21 February 2024 - 01:53 PM, said:

As a side issue to CPS’s nonsense, where have the medical staff gone? Don’t the St John’s ambulance attend anymore?


Funny how people who dish it out continually are sensitive to receiving it.

St Johns are for the crowd under direction of the crowd doctor (which some clubs have)

[spireitetoo]

calvin plummers socks, on 21 February 2024 - 01:57 PM, said:

St Johns are for the crowd under direction of the crowd doctor (which some clubs have)

And also stretcher bearers if a player requires a stretcher..

[azul]

spireitetoo, on 21 February 2024 - 02:02 PM, said:

And also stretcher bearers if a player requires a stretcher..

He just makes it up

[calvin plummers socks]

azul, on 21 February 2024 - 02:05 PM, said:

He just makes it up

No he’s right.
If there are sufficient to use a stretcher then they can be used for pluses as well.

[azul]

calvin plummers socks, on 21 February 2024 - 02:10 PM, said:

No he’s right.
If there are sufficient to use a stretcher then they can be used for pluses as well.

Stop sending me PMs bro

[clarevoyant.]

azul, on 21 February 2024 - 03:12 PM, said:

Stop sending me PMs bro

Be persistent in offers of friendly coffee meets usually makes him go all coy.

[calvin plummers socks]

azul, on 21 February 2024 - 03:12 PM, said:

Stop sending me PMs bro

Lol at least it was polite!