[First of the gang]

Just read on another site that Radio Sheff have confirmed wednesday are talking to him!
Gutted if this is true

[SpireiteDan]

Noooooooooo, Sammy, anyone but them - just think of the 4000 spireites' faces you made smile when you scored that screamer at hillsboro.........
So it looks like wolves would let him go (havent they just signed another midfielder today aswell) i wonder if town are even interested anymore? come on town, dont miss out again - we might not be able to offer him championship football and the wages but at least make him have to make a choice.

[The_Magic_Man]

Why?! He's got the chance to play in a higher league, for a bigger club and probably for a higher wage (even though Wednesday are in all this debt, they still manage to pay a fair bit, what's all that about?!) If he chose Wednesday over Chesterfield, that would surely be the best move for his career would it not? It's a shame but we have to be realistic.

[SpireiteDan]

spireiteblue, on Jun 14 2005, 12:11 PM, said:

I best dump the pic i have up on him he has gone down in my estimation now 
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How? would you turn down first team football and a nice pay package if you had the chance, if anyone blame the the club (ours) as yet again they have probably let another potentially great signing slip away, people keep saying that he is contracted to wolves etc but if wednesday get offers eccepted why cant we? (we have money to spend for the first time in years) he is proven in a chesterfield shirt and thats why he is constently mentioned on these boards, it was obvious he was going to get snapped up eventually because hes a very good player, wolves and sammy wont miss out, just us.

[First of the gang]

can't blame him though can you, as much as it hurts to say, better facilities, more money and championship football

[dalekpete]

SpireiteDan, on Jun 14 2005, 12:17 PM, said:

if anyone blame the the club (ours) as yet again they have probably let another potentially great signing slip away<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I didn't know he had signed for them but I am certain that the wage offer must be more than double what we offered; if a fee is involved I am sure a Championship club with five-times our gate will outbid us.

I an afraid that in a short career you have to take the money. I like my job but if I was offered double my salary for cleaning bogs in Sheffield I would probably take it.

[SpireiteDan]

Mark Jones, on Jun 14 2005, 12:30 PM, said:

Why blame the club?  If the club offer him the most they can afford for him to play in League One and Wed offer him more money and Championship football, why is that the clubs fault?  Do you think we should go to the banks for a loan to pay his wages?
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I didnt say that, im questioning whether we are even chasing him in the first place. And you say this about not being able to afford him, I wonder how many people can afford to buy season tickets, sometimes 3-4 a go? but they still do! We missed out on JCR because the club were'nt prepared to take a gamble, rotherham will probably get a tidy sum for him instead and now we have missed out on another potentially big fee, its ok for the club to make specualtion about premiership players etc but i dont want speculation, i want a team on that field that for the first time in years can compete with the best in the league.

[Majorca Mac]

dalekpete, on Jun 14 2005, 11:30 AM, said:

I didn't know he had signed for them but I am certain that the wage offer must be more than double what we offered; if a fee is involved I am sure a Championship club with five-times our gate will outbid us.

I an afraid that in a short career you have to take the money.  I like my job but if I was offered double my salary for cleaning bogs in Sheffield I would probably take it.
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But he loved it at Saltergate. Why should money come into it? If it's a case of money, we're loaded. Why don't we make use of the £150k from Evatt sale - rather than just leave it lying around. This clubs lack of ambition stinks.

[dalekpete]

SpireiteDan, on Jun 14 2005, 12:35 PM, said:

We missed out on JCR because the club were'nt prepared to take a gamble,
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I agree with you that we did miss out because we weren't prepared to gamble. In that I support the Club 100%.

I would rather have a sustainable Club than one player no matter how special.

[Cosmo Kramer]

spireiteblue, on Jun 14 2005, 12:40 PM, said:

I've been saying that for ages especially this "i want a team on that field that for the first time in years can compete with the best in the league."but all i got was lame excuses like have we got to get a bank loan to fund it etc.If we start wining things then the money will flow in.
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Christ on a bike! Have you been drinking with Peter Risdale? Its exactly that attitude that has almost runied numerous clubs over the last few years. I can't believe that you can propose that we hock the future of the club on the off chance that we start winning things or that someone comes in with a big offer for a player who may or may not repeat the form that he showed whilst on loan here.

[SpireiteDan]

Mark Jones, on Jun 14 2005, 12:43 PM, said:

You think we should gamble with the future of the club on one player?
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C'mon its not as if we're talking about Ronaldinho here!, i dont think i ever said raise the wage structure (although that may be done with this prem player) but whats wrong with making him have to make a desicion, even if what we offered something which was not half of what wednesday did, at least we tried. Why does the club always look at things from a negative point of view? like what can go wrong etc? what about thinking about the 100s, 1000s even extra that would come through the gate, the extra points we would gain by having a quality player on the pitch, I guess im just going to have to realise we cant compete with most teams.

[dannypearson]

SpireiteDan, on Jun 14 2005, 12:50 PM, said:

C'mon its not as if we're talking about Ronaldinho here!, i dont think i ever said raise the wage structure (although that may be done with this prem player) but whats wrong with making him have to make a desicion, even if what we offered something which was not half of what wednesday did, at least we tried. Why does the club always look at things from a negative point of view? like what can go wrong etc? what about thinking about the 100s, 1000s even extra that would come through the gate, the extra points we would gain by having a quality player on the pitch, I guess im just going to have to realise we cant compete with most teams.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Of course we can't. The football league has put a wage cap, based on the income each club has (can't remember the exact percentage) - as our income is one of the lowest in the league then obviously we cannot compete financially. This is where we need a good manager (Roy Mac) to unearth gems for us on a shoestring budget.