[tomjoad]

New member 5 posts.
Got to start somewhere I suppose
Hearing a lot about Brown on a year long loan from Derby.We were interested before?

[60s 70s Spireite]

 Winder, on 23 April 2024 - 06:41 PM, said:

Conn Clarke first in.

First in on Alty’s team sheet for Sunday’s game.

[Rogerwillis]

I’m sure if the below happens or is remotely true that actually squad numbers don’t add up

➡️ Tyrer , CCC, Drummond, JeDuane Brown + 4 defenders is +8

⬅️ Banks, King, Clements, Palmer, Curtis -5

Wouldn’t that put us over the squad limit?

[Mr Mercury]

 Rogerwillis, on 23 April 2024 - 07:10 PM, said:

I’m sure if the below happens or is remotely true that actually squad numbers don’t add up

➡️ Tyrer , CCC, Drummond, JeDuane Brown + 4 defenders is +8

⬅️ Banks, King, Clements, Palmer, Curtis -5

Wouldn’t that put us over the squad limit?

The Derby lad wouldn’t count would he due to his age?

[60s 70s Spireite]

 Mr Mercury, on 23 April 2024 - 07:16 PM, said:

The Derby lad wouldn’t count would he due to his age?

If we did happen to sign 4 defenders (?) , we would surely seek to offload one or two either on loan or by placing them on the transfer list

[azul]

 Mr Mercury, on 23 April 2024 - 07:16 PM, said:

The Derby lad wouldn’t count would he due to his age?

Forget the technicalities the answer is NO

Squad of 22, not including goalkeepers and youth

As far as we are aware we have 15 outfield players signed on MAX. If any of the ones he listed as outgoing get new contracts then that cuts into the number of potential signings

This post has been edited by azul: 23 April 2024 - 07:47 PM

[gloucestershireblue]

 60s 70s Spireite, on 23 April 2024 - 07:32 PM, said:

If we did happen to sign 4 defenders (?) , we would surely seek to offload one or two either on loan or by placing them on the transfer list

Think the poster said those out of contract this June would be off.

[ash_cfc]

 tomjoad, on 23 April 2024 - 07:08 PM, said:

New member 5 posts.
Got to start somewhere I suppose
Hearing a lot about Brown on a year long loan from Derby.We were interested before?

He was due to sign on loan when JQ got injured. But was pulled when the injury wasn’t as bad as first feared.

[tedspireite]

 gloucestershireblue, on 23 April 2024 - 07:45 PM, said:

Think the poster said those out of contract this June would be off.

I have heard king is staying so that can't be right if true. would keep Jeff anyway. I think it will be a maximum of 5 out and 5 in imo.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

 Benno Spire, on 20 April 2024 - 08:15 PM, said:

Personally I would be very surprised if any of these names were here next season

One might be

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

 60s 70s Spireite, on 18 April 2024 - 04:51 PM, said:

I think I’d rather have the slightly younger, less injured in recent seasons, Michael Jacobs.

Clucas played left back for us at times and I would t want Jacobs anywhere near there.

This post has been edited by Ernie Ernie Ernie: 23 April 2024 - 09:35 PM

[60s 70s Spireite]

 Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 23 April 2024 - 09:34 PM, said:

Clucas played left back for us at times and I would t want Jacobs anywhere near there.

I wonder when Clucas last played left back?

[Fit as a Nelson]

 tedspireite, on 23 April 2024 - 09:17 PM, said:

I have heard king is staying so that can't be right if true. would keep Jeff anyway. I think it will be a maximum of 5 out and 5 in imo.

King should be leaving with our thanks.

[Rogerwillis]

tedspireite, on 23 April 2024 - 09:17 PM, said:

I have heard king is staying so that can't be right if true. would keep Jeff anyway. I think it will be a maximum of 5 out and 5 in imo.

If king stays that’s a dreadful move

[danblue]

60s 70s Spireite, on 23 April 2024 - 07:32 PM, said:

If we did happen to sign 4 defenders (?) , we would surely seek to offload one or two either on loan or by placing them on the transfer list

I've heard ruthlessness mentioned a few times in the interviews, so Cook has to look atbthe problem areas - defence. And I know folk say 'defend as a team / lost in midfield' ect, but it boils down to making less mistakes and having pace in there to track back quickly.
I think Grimes would get some game time in L2, but I'd have to put all the back line under tbe microscope (that's including Grimes aswell).
Fact is, we have a fair few defenders under contract which in one way is good - team bonded, they can click and play well to a point.
But if required to move on, could be a problem contractually.
If one or two (I can't see 4 brand new defenders coming in and starting with a whole new backline) the likes of Williams and Palmer (if not moved on) being back up and probably start new CB with Grimes to see how he fairs.
As for LB & RB, I think King might be moved on, I'm not overly sold on Sheckleford.
I like the style of Clements and Horton on the front foot. Not sold on Clements defending but Horton can look good in parts defending (seems to come into his element at time against the better teams - Shef Utd PSF foe example)

[dtp]

Rogerwillis, on 23 April 2024 - 07:10 PM, said:

I’m sure if the below happens or is remotely true that actually squad numbers don’t add up

➡️ Tyrer , CCC, Drummond, JeDuane Brown + 4 defenders is +8

⬅️ Banks, King, Clements, Palmer, Curtis -5

Wouldn’t that put us over the squad limit?

Without counting up the answer is “not necessarily”.

Goalkeepers don’t count and neither do players under 21 on 01/01/24 such as Brown & Freckleton. The young CB at Rochdale would fit into this category too.

[MrTall]

tedspireite, on 23 April 2024 - 09:17 PM, said:

I have heard king is staying so that can't be right if true. would keep Jeff anyway. I think it will be a maximum of 5 out and 5 in imo.

We'll have to let some players go or we'll never progress!

[sophocles]

MrTall, on 24 April 2024 - 08:03 AM, said:

We'll have to let some players go or we'll never progress!

Progress isn't necessarily achieved by a lot of chopping and changing, in fact that could have the opposite effect. The skills required of a good manager include introducing enough change to produce improved performance, without disrupting the cohesion of the squad, or impeding the development of players already in the squad. PC is a vastly experienced and successful manager, and I have every confidence that he will preserve the tangible unity of his group of players whilst improving the depth and quality of the whole squad.

[Fit as a Nelson]

I was thinking the other day about Cooks last league 2 squad, the difference in defence is massive. Talbot, Darikwa, Hird, Evatt, Cooper, Smith, Humphrey’s.. do any of our current defenders get anywhere near that? I don’t think so. They was probably helped by having a better keeper in net and Ryan and Morsy in front of them however. Notts county’s defenders are a good example, they conceded 42 goals in their promotion season they’ve already conceded 85 so far in league 2 and there’s still another game to go. We conceded 65 this season for comparison. I’m not worried in the slightest I have full trust in Cook doing what needs to be done. I would let go any defender that isn’t currently under contract and possibly even try and move a few on who are.

[dtp]

Fit as a Nelson, on 24 April 2024 - 09:27 AM, said:

I was thinking the other day about Cooks last league 2 squad, the difference in defence is massive. Talbot, Darikwa, Hird, Evatt, Cooper, Smith, Humphrey’s.. do any of our current defenders get anywhere near that? I don’t think so. They was probably helped by having a better keeper in net and Ryan and Morsy in front of them however. Notts county’s defenders are a good example, they conceded 42 goals in their promotion season they’ve already conceded 85 so far in league 2 and there’s still another game to go. We conceded 65 this season for comparison. I’m not worried in the slightest I have full trust in Cook doing what needs to be done. I would let go any defender that isn’t currently under contract and possibly even try and move a few on who are.

Didn’t we also have Jones at LB who I remember as being like a greyhound going forward but a tortoise getting back. Also, well remembered for his theatrics against the blunts.