[Johnnyspireite7]

Westbars Spireite, on 06 April 2024 - 12:47 PM, said:

Feel what and why?

Remember that who you are talking to is a Gateshead fan not a Town fan. Let's ask him how he'd feel if it was Newcastle, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Hartlepool or Darlington then see if he 'feels' for them!

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Allen pulled the plug, Stewart pushed on.

We all know what happened next.

And what RUFC have since experienced, an outfit very similar to ourselves, is what we might realistically aim for.

A strong third tier club making visits to the second.

Hopefully built on far firmer foundations than one millionaire's whims, though...

[Osborne again]

According to a Rotherham season ticket holder I work with, off and on, Sam Clucas is the only player they have who's got a Clucas. He reckons they've not spent their money wisely, so were due a return to league one before a ball was kicked. At least he was brutally honest.

[Bluekent]

Sussex Spireite, on 06 April 2024 - 01:06 PM, said:

Ditto, I would quite happily see us yo-yo'ing between L1 and the Championship for the next 10 years or so. Get to play some big ex-Prem clubs who drop down now and again.

Zero chance you’d enjoy a season they’ve just gone through whether it’s in the championship or not.

[Holmesc1]

Johnnyspireite7, on 06 April 2024 - 01:17 PM, said:

Remember that who you are talking to is a Gateshead fan not a Town fan. Let's ask him how he'd feel if it was Newcastle, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Hartlepool or Darlington then see if he 'feels' for them!

Whats that got to do with it. Would say the same if the north east teams were yo yo teams

Bluekent, on 06 April 2024 - 06:08 PM, said:

Zero chance you’d enjoy a season they’ve just gone through whether it’s in the championship or not.

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Exactly. If i was a millers fan i would rather have a few seasons re-building in league 1 than getting promoted, getting beat most weeks and going straight back sown

[Sammy Spireite]

Holmesc1, on 07 April 2024 - 05:28 PM, said:

Whats that got to do with it. Would say the same if the north east teams were yo yo teams

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Exactly. If i was a millers fan i would rather have a few seasons re-building in league 1 than getting promoted, getting beat most weeks and going straight back sown

So you’d rather see them lose every other week than win the majority, potentially win the league and gain promotion?!

Weird.

[hardgums]

I still remember when Radio Dee Dah footy phone-ins were in their infancy - Robert Jackson (?). Several Rotherham fans phoned in and laughed at the fact that we'd just been relegated. That and the dart in the leg incident hardly endear me to those Sheffield wannabees

[Sussex Spireite]

Bluekent, on 06 April 2024 - 06:08 PM, said:

Zero chance you’d enjoy a season they’ve just gone through whether it’s in the championship or not.

Matter of opinion, I would rather watch us lose to the likes of Leeds and Leicester, rather than watching us getting stuffed by Dorking and Kidderminster.

[Osborne again]

Trying to perform at a decent level in the championship, requires people with lots of cash who don't mind draining their bank accounts to some extent. Yes, I'd like to see my club play at Championship level, even for just one season before I become a dust Genie confined to the sideboard top. But not to the detriment of the club in any way.
Rotherham haven't spent wisely, so I'm told by a lifelong supporter, but getting a team to click must be harder than it is on Football Manager 🤣. If they're getting rid of Sam Clucas I'm all ears, but that's in the same realm of getting Cooper back or growing Joe Quigley a shooting foot.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Sussex Spireite, on 07 April 2024 - 06:03 PM, said:

Matter of opinion, I would rather watch us lose to the likes of Leeds and Leicester, rather than watching us getting stuffed by Dorking and Kidderminster.

And if managed properly visits to the second tier build the Club.

To the point one season might become two. Perhaps three. So on and so forth.

Without ambition we might as well watch DVD's of Town wins every Sat'di afternoon...

[gordon_brittas]

My dad always brings up the season under Cox when we missed promotion to what now is the championship to Blackburn. If we’d have gone up that season, he always argued we’d probably have become a Barnsley type club yo-yoing between League 1 and Championship.

The support was there as was the squad.

Guess we will never know 🤷‍♂️

[60s 70s Spireite]

gordon_brittas, on 08 April 2024 - 05:30 PM, said:

My dad always brings up the season under Cox when we missed promotion to what now is the championship to Blackburn. If we’d have gone up that season, he always argued we’d probably have become a Barnsley type club yo-yoing between League 1 and Championship.

The support was there as was the squad.

Guess we will never know 🤷‍♂️

We lost out by 2 points to Blackburn and 1 point to Wednesday. Blackburn were the last of the top three we played, and we lost 1-0 at Saltergate with about 10 games to go.

[Westbars Spireite]

60s 70s Spireite, on 08 April 2024 - 07:28 PM, said:

We lost out by 2 points to Blackburn and 1 point to Wednesday. Blackburn were the last of the top three we played, and we lost 1-0 at Saltergate with about 10 games to go.

Would it have been different with 3pts for a win? Did it change the following season?

[60s 70s Spireite]

Westbars Spireite, on 08 April 2024 - 07:46 PM, said:

Would it have been different with 3pts for a win? Did it change the following season?

Yes, 80 points for us, and 79 Wednesday. It changed two seasons later, 81/2.

[Westbars Spireite]

60s 70s Spireite, on 08 April 2024 - 07:52 PM, said:

Yes, 80 points for us, and 79 Wednesday. It changed two seasons later, 81/2.

Typical CFC but it’s what we all bought into at different times.

[60s 70s Spireite]

Westbars Spireite, on 08 April 2024 - 08:38 PM, said:

Typical CFC but it’s what we all bought into at different times.

That’s how it feels.
I think I’m right in saying if the Divsion had run the calendar year 1980, we would have been champions by a good distance.

[Sussex Spireite]

60s 70s Spireite, on 08 April 2024 - 07:52 PM, said:

Yes, 80 points for us, and 79 Wednesday. It changed two seasons later, 81/2.

I'm pretty sure it was the season after. Seem to remember watching Bob Wilson (Town born and breed) on football focus talking about the new 3 point system and saying that Chesterfield would have gone up instead of Wednesday.

[60s 70s Spireite]

Sussex Spireite, on 09 April 2024 - 07:54 AM, said:

I'm pretty sure it was the season after. Seem to remember watching Bob Wilson (Town born and breed) on football focus talking about the new 3 point system and saying that Chesterfield would have gone up instead of Wednesday.

No - see this table for the season after -80/81.
https://www.football...Div31980-81.htm

[whittman]

gordon_brittas, on 08 April 2024 - 05:30 PM, said:

My dad always brings up the season under Cox when we missed promotion to what now is the championship to Blackburn. If we’d have gone up that season, he always argued we’d probably have become a Barnsley type club yo-yoing between League 1 and Championship.

The support was there as was the squad.

Guess we will never know 🤷‍♂️

the trouble was Coxy splashed the cash so to speak in an effort to gain promotion cash that we didnt have in effect

On transfer deadline day in that season we spent the most money of any club in the football league as I seem to remember but after the failed promotion bids the players had to be sold on what was then a buyers market and at the end of the 82/83 season relegation followed and the club was within 10 minutes of going out of business I was told

Thats when Mike Watterson stepped in and saved the club appointed John Duncan as manager and the 4th division championship was won in 84/85

[azul]

Bluekent, on 06 April 2024 - 06:08 PM, said:

Zero chance you’d enjoy a season they’ve just gone through whether it’s in the championship or not.

Since we last won EFL2, Rotherham have gained promotion from EFL1 four times and have had six seasons in the championship before this season. I know whose record I'd prefer.

Little chance we'd thrive in the Championship for long but that is what we should be aiming for. No point being afraid of getting promoted above our means.

This post has been edited by azul: 09 April 2024 - 12:08 PM