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#61 User is offline   Elmer Fudd's Thick Lip 

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 11:14 AM

If he has been brought in to cover LWB while Xmas until JBW is fit then all well and good, but... I've seen him on TV a couple of times since we were linked last year and he seemed to me to fit the mould of an attacking minded midfielder with goals in him, so are we gonna be getting everything we can out of the lad?
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 11:14 AM

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 11:22 AM

View PostJonB, on 18 August 2017 - 11:07 AM, said:

According to the article confirming Flores signing :-

"Flores, 21, is a versatile player who can play either in midfield or on the left-hand side of defence."

Caldwell loves square pegs in round holes. Play the guy in midfield where he's comfortable and get a proper left back in, with defending there speciality.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 11:28 AM

Does the poor lad know what he's letting himself in for?

He's playing right back tomorrow.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 11:37 AM

View PostEssex_Spireite, on 18 August 2017 - 11:11 AM, said:

Only we would sell a central midfielder who has played mostly at left back for us and replace him with a central midfielder who we will now utilise at left back. :glare:

Here's a novel idea, why not sign an actual left back?


We have. JBW.

Signing a guy who is comfortable on the left and can switch to midfield when JBW returns from injury seems to make sense.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 11:44 AM

View PostKevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 18 August 2017 - 11:37 AM, said:

We have. JBW.

Signing a guy who is comfortable on the left and can switch to midfield when JBW returns from injury seems to make sense.


If he can do the job effectively then I agree. You have to assume, for what it's worth based on some of his other decisions, that GC is working on that basis. He has, to be fair, managed him before and has no excuse not to know what he can and can't do.

If he gets this wrong given JBW's long term injury then we are mightily exposed for a big portion of the season.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:01 PM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 18 August 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

If he can do the job effectively then I agree. You have to assume, for what it's worth based on some of his other decisions, that GC is working on that basis. He has, to be fair, managed him before and has no excuse not to know what he can and can't do.

If he gets this wrong given JBW's long term injury then we are mightily exposed for a big portion of the season.


Agreed.

GC been unlucky this season so far. Jury still out on recruitment I reckon. We might as well settle in and see where we are in 15-20 games. Can't really afford to let another management team go. Need to give him time.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:06 PM

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:08 PM

View PostKevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 18 August 2017 - 12:01 PM, said:

Agreed.

GC been unlucky this season so far. Jury still out on recruitment I reckon. We might as well settle in and see where we are in 15-20 games. Can't really afford to let another management team go. Need to give him time.

That's the thing, time.
Look how many were calling for Wilder's head at the start of last season. 4/5 games in, Blunts were saying the job was to big for him. Kinda turned out OK for them.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:13 PM

View PostKevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 18 August 2017 - 12:01 PM, said:

Agreed.

GC been unlucky this season so far. Jury still out on recruitment I reckon. We might as well settle in and see where we are in 15-20 games. Can't really afford to let another management team go. Need to give him time.


Say we give him 10 games and he wins 1 of those 10. We part company, another 2 games or so until we appoint a new manager and we lose both. New manager comes in and takes 5/6 games to get the team playing his way.

So that's 18 or so games where we could be cut adrift. We dont have time. Last season we had the buffer of league 2 between us and non league. This season we have not got that luxury due to the dramatic failure of the last.

5 games and no wins and it's time to go.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:18 PM

View PostEssex_Spireite, on 18 August 2017 - 12:13 PM, said:

Say we give him 10 games and he wins 1 of those 10. We part company, another 2 games or so until we appoint a new manager and we lose both. New manager comes in and takes 5/6 games to get the team playing his way.

So that's 18 or so games where we could be cut adrift. We dont have time. Last season we had the buffer of league 2 between us and non league. This season we have not got that luxury due to the dramatic failure of the last.

5 games and no wins and it's time to go.


So you're suggesting we sack another management team, pay them all off, hire a new man, who will want players of his own?

As said above, Wilder began last season horribly, then went on to win the title. Easily. Way too early to think about a change.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:21 PM

View PostKevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 18 August 2017 - 12:18 PM, said:

So you're suggesting we sack another management team, pay them all off, hire a new man, who will want players of his own?

As said above, Wilder lost 4 of 5, then went on to win the title. Easily.


Comparing Caldwell to Wilder :rolleyes:
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:21 PM

Can't believe somebody actually paid for Donohue haha.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:23 PM

View PostEssex_Spireite, on 18 August 2017 - 12:21 PM, said:

Comparing Caldwell to Wilder :rolleyes:


I know.

Madness. It's not like they're both... er, football managers.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:26 PM

View PostAngel Was A Spireite, on 18 August 2017 - 12:21 PM, said:

Can't believe somebody actually paid for Donohue haha.

The bile you spout about the young lad on here is unhealthy. You should get yourself checked out.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:30 PM

View PostKevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 18 August 2017 - 12:18 PM, said:

So you're suggesting we sack another management team, pay them all off, hire a new man, who will want players of his own?

As said above, Wilder began last season horribly, then went on to win the title. Easily. Way too early to think about a change.

GC only on a year contract, wisest thing AC and DA have done while at club. The trapdoor to oblivion will have to come into consideration if we're are languishing around the bottom 4 say after 10 games, if mid table stick with the guy.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:33 PM

View Posthilly81, on 18 August 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

The bile you spout about the young lad on here is unhealthy. You should get yourself checked out.

What? Because I point out that he's rubbish while people like you cream over him?
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:45 PM

View Posthilly81, on 18 August 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

The bile you spout about the young lad on here is unhealthy. You should get yourself checked out.


Well, no doubt he will turn his attentions to another player now.

View PostBigBlue, on 18 August 2017 - 12:30 PM, said:

GC only on a year contract, wisest thing AC and DA have done while at club. The trapdoor to oblivion will have to come into consideration if we're are languishing around the bottom 4 say after 10 games, if mid table stick with the guy.


But, isn't it a "rolling year" and, as such, there is always a year left on his contract?
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:45 PM

View PostAngel Was A Spireite, on 18 August 2017 - 12:33 PM, said:

What? Because I point out that he's rubbish while people like you cream over him?


He clearly isn't 'rubbish' whatever you might think.

But then you named yourself after a useless crock who barely played a game for CFC so what does that say about your decision making?
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:49 PM

View PostAngel Was A Spireite, on 18 August 2017 - 12:33 PM, said:

What? Because I point out that he's rubbish while people like you cream over him?

It would seem that the professional opinion of DD is somewhat different to yours.

But hey! why should anyone value the thoughts of the management at CFC,Wigan Athletic and Portsmouth when we can listen to you ? :unsure:







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