European Court Ruling
#1
Posted 12 November 2018 - 01:36 PM
So it’s now illegal in Europe to publicly criticise the Prophet
For reasons of religious peace
In other words free speech oppression in case it upsets Islamists
#2
Posted 12 November 2018 - 01:47 PM
Never had there been a more deserving case of asylum
But Britain is silent
More appeasement
#4
Posted 13 November 2018 - 08:06 AM
Search and Destroy, on 12 November 2018 - 01:36 PM, said:
So it’s now illegal in Europe to publicly criticise the Prophet
For reasons of religious peace
In other words free speech oppression in case it upsets Islamists
Hey why not post some more on a non-league clubs fan forum about how you hate Muslims and Islam. I don't think everyone knows yet.
Probably more useful to your lot by joining Britain First or National action than on a Town message board?
#5
Posted 13 November 2018 - 11:47 AM
Search and Destroy, on 12 November 2018 - 01:36 PM, said:
So it’s now illegal in Europe to publicly criticise the Prophet
For reasons of religious peace
In other words free speech oppression in case it upsets Islamists
The liberals in europe have been slowly taking away peoples rights and freedoms for decades now so its no surprise.
This post has been edited by AllTownArentWe: 13 November 2018 - 11:48 AM
#6
Posted 13 November 2018 - 12:53 PM
AllTownArentWe, on 13 November 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:
No they haven't.
#7
Posted 13 November 2018 - 04:53 PM
spireiterob, on 13 November 2018 - 12:53 PM, said:
Yes they have. We dont have freedom of speech, we only have a restricted freedom of expression and hate speech laws are overbearing and cover a lot more than they are supposed to. Some valid criticisms can be classed as hate speech now. We basically live in an over regulated nanny state.
#9
Posted 13 November 2018 - 05:32 PM
AllTownArentWe, on 13 November 2018 - 04:53 PM, said:
Can you offer, say, three examples of what you'd like to say but can't?
#10
Posted 13 November 2018 - 07:11 PM
#11
Posted 13 November 2018 - 07:43 PM
MDCCCLXVI, on 13 November 2018 - 05:32 PM, said:
I’ll kick off
You couldn’t mention grooming gangs were Muslim
#12
Posted 13 November 2018 - 07:52 PM
Search and Destroy, on 13 November 2018 - 07:43 PM, said:
You couldn’t mention grooming gangs were Muslim
Who remembers that Youtuber that got arrested for filming his dog doing a Nazi salute as a joke.
Also criticising certain parts of Islam puts you at risk of prosecution. ^ See original post.
This post has been edited by AllTownArentWe: 13 November 2018 - 07:55 PM
#13
Posted 13 November 2018 - 07:58 PM
AllTownArentWe, on 13 November 2018 - 04:53 PM, said:
How hilarious. Why would anyone be bothered about wanting to do a Nazi salute with their dog in all seriousness?
The irony of it all is that Farage et al claim no freedom of speech and they are never off the telly. Farage, Yaxley-Lennon et al are coining it from creating this false sense of oppression.
This post has been edited by spireiterob: 13 November 2018 - 08:05 PM
#14
Posted 13 November 2018 - 08:06 PM
spireiterob, on 13 November 2018 - 07:58 PM, said:
That's not the point. It was a joke. That man was not a Nazi, nor did he share any views the Nazis held. He filmed his dog lifting up it's arm and compared it to a nazi salute.
Freedom isn't all about wanting to do something, it's about the right to be able to do something as well.
The police spend a stupid amount of resources setting up pathetic investigates on alleged hate crimes for things like jokes or actual valid criticisms of things while they have to prioritize other things like burglaries because of a lack of resources.
I don't know if you know of him, but there was an American comedian called Don Rickles who died last year, he was a WW2 vet and a jew. He made jokes about the Nazis, but if he said half the stuff over here that he said in the States then I guarantee you he would have been investigated and made to apologize. Our country is so stupid.
This post has been edited by AllTownArentWe: 13 November 2018 - 08:08 PM
#15
Posted 13 November 2018 - 08:14 PM
The labour leader, the one who most of you want to run the country, forced his own MP to quit for suggesting the grooming gangs are Muslim
#16
Posted 13 November 2018 - 08:18 PM
Search and Destroy, on 13 November 2018 - 08:14 PM, said:
The labour leader, the one who most of you want to run the country, forced his own MP to quit for suggesting the grooming gangs are Muslim
If the tories had a competent leader like Sajid Javid then Corbyn and his clapped shadow government would be absolutely destroyed.
I was torn in the last election because I really like Toby Perkins, hes a good man but voting for him also means voting for Corbyn.
This post has been edited by AllTownArentWe: 13 November 2018 - 08:21 PM
#17
Posted 13 November 2018 - 08:20 PM
calvin plummers socks, on 13 November 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:
I don’t particularly want to abuse your fairies, the point is the reason we can’t insult your fairytale
It’s because of fear, we can’t upset the religious nut jobs because they’ll strap bombs to themselves at kids concerts
So we have legislation that oppresses free speech because we are terrorised
The same reason we cannot allow asylum to this poor woman, it’ll upset the nutjobs so we let her rot.
#18
Posted 13 November 2018 - 10:40 PM
spireiterob, on 13 November 2018 - 07:58 PM, said:
The irony of it all is that Farage et al claim no freedom of speech and they are never off the telly. Farage, Yaxley-Lennon et al are coining it from creating this false sense of oppression.
That's the second time you've made the libelous statement that Farage and Banks were rigging the money markets to get rich on the back of campaigning to leave the EU. I said you were making it up and asked you to provide evidence. You ignored me the first time so I'll offer you the same invitation again.
I cannot recall any of the leave organisations complaining they were denied free speech. There were complaints about biased audiences but complaints of denying free speech is a new one on me. I'm happy to be proved wrong. Evidence please?
#19
Posted 13 November 2018 - 10:52 PM
frearsghost, on 13 November 2018 - 10:40 PM, said:
I cannot recall any of the leave organisations complaining they were denied free speech. There were complaints about biased audiences but complaints of denying free speech is a new one on me. I'm happy to be proved wrong. Evidence please?
I didn't make that point there at all really, but I am happy to give a couple of links, that no doubt you will probably rubbish, but give possible evidence to that theory. I am sure the truth will come out one day either way.
https://www.ftadvise...inst-uk-assets/
https://www.google.c...ispin-odey/amp/
On Farage et al claiming they don't have free speech, you can more than likely find it on his twitter account a few days ago, possibly today.
Yaxley-Lennon was saying it the other week on a podium in front of court.
This post has been edited by spireiterob: 13 November 2018 - 10:57 PM
#20
Posted 13 November 2018 - 11:03 PM
Search and Destroy, on 13 November 2018 - 08:20 PM, said:
It’s because of fear, we can’t upset the religious nut jobs because they’ll strap bombs to themselves at kids concerts
So we have legislation that oppresses free speech because we are terrorised
The same reason we cannot allow asylum to this poor woman, it’ll upset the nutjobs so we let her rot.
The case of the poor women in Pakistan accused of blasphemy is a tragedy. I believe the unofficial reason for her being denied asylum in the UK, is the fear of disturbances in Pakistani communities. It is a stain on the integrity of our country and another example of cowardly appeasement by the government. They should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
She is wrongly accused of insulting the prophet which, in a civilised society, she should be able to do. She faces being murdered. Another reason to condemn all religions for the hateful homophobic creeds they all are. However, one must be careful. Criticism of religion has just been made a crime by the European Court of Justice. In a nutshell, the decision reminds us that the political left and liberalism are two different things.