[RN Blue]

s42blue, on 14 March 2024 - 11:07 PM, said:

Carson is deplorable. Pitiful, pathetic excuse for a businessman. Cannot stand the man.

I suspect he'll be gutted we're winning this league so soon after his judge us in 12 months quote, clown.

[s42blue]

RN Blue, on 14 March 2024 - 11:34 PM, said:

I suspect he'll be gutted we're winning this league so soon after his judge us in 12 months quote, clown.

I hope so.

Should have an open top bus past his and Allen’s house

[Cfc4me]

It wasn't Carson that said it. It was Mike Goodwin.

Here's the dt report from 12 months after...
https://www.derbyshi...-charge-3340392

It's funny how the people that want to criticise the trust never tell you why they didn't try saving the club themselves, and what they would have done differently with no money and no experience.

[JonB]

Doesnt the last line of that report mention what we are all talking about without naming names? Pretty sure Carson uttered the words on here rather than an official interview etc.

[HaslandBlue58]

JonB, on 15 March 2024 - 08:26 AM, said:

Doesnt the last line of that report mention what we are all talking about without naming names? Pretty sure Carson uttered the words on here rather than an official interview etc.

Not sure,but was it not in one of Carson's texts that he asked Moondog to post at the time?

[JonB]

HaslandBlue58, on 15 March 2024 - 11:19 AM, said:

Not sure,but was it not in one of Carson's texts that he asked Moondog to post at the time?

I certainly seem to remember something about it on here either posted by Carson himself or the many bits he asked Moondog to pass on.

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

HaslandBlue58, on 14 March 2024 - 09:48 PM, said:

Which is the reason for my curt response to the usual suspects throwing abuse at the Trust,I assume at the time as fans, they were more concerned with saving the club than worrying if their business accumen was enough.Yes there are areas/personnel/actions that in hindsight were not going to please everyone or even succeed,but thanks to them we still have a club which in my eyes is still the only overriding issue.

No one threw any abuse. Other than you.

Merely pointed out the obvious. That they weren't capable of running the club. Have made numerous balls ups. Would have bought the club down had they continued. And were largely well meaning amateurs.

All of which you now appear to agree with...

[Town_Fan]

s42blue, on 14 March 2024 - 11:07 PM, said:

Carson is deplorable. Pitiful, pathetic excuse for a businessman. Cannot stand the man.

What about other people on the same board that oversaw our downfall and now are still clinging on to the club barnacle style. Why do they get such an easy ride?

[HaslandBlue58]

Snowflake McBedwetter, on 15 March 2024 - 02:42 PM, said:

No one threw any abuse. Other than you.

Merely pointed out the obvious. That they weren't capable of running the club. Have made numerous balls ups. Would have bought the club down had they continued. And were largely well meaning amateurs.

All of which you now appear to agree with...

There are ways and means of getting a point across,perhaps belittleing people trying to do their best is your way.It was stated at the time how accute the situation was,and if I remember correctly Dave Allen was only willing to deal with the Trust in what I saw as his way of thinking the Trust would fail then he could exonerate himself of any blame.We all know in hindsight the failings,for once try giving credit where it was due.

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

HaslandBlue58, on 15 March 2024 - 03:33 PM, said:

There are ways and means of getting a point across,perhaps belittleing people trying to do their best is your way.It was stated at the time how accute the situation was,and if I remember correctly Dave Allen was only willing to deal with the Trust in what I saw as his way of thinking the Trust would fail then he could exonerate himself of any blame.We all know in hindsight the failings,for once try giving credit where it was due.

Feel free to give an example of me belittling the Trust. Unless you mistakenly think 'belittling' means stating an uncomfortable truth.

Dave Allen essentially handed the club to them. The council backed them with our money to the tune of half a million. The supporters have turned out in droves. The Kirks have provided funds. PC has done the business in assembling a team worthy of EFL football.

There are indeed ways and means of getting a point across. Maybe opening 'debate' with complete strangers on the internet with swearing and insults is yours, but it's not a great look.

[HaslandBlue58]

Snowflake McBedwetter, on 15 March 2024 - 04:59 PM, said:

Feel free to give an example of me belittling the Trust. Unless you mistakenly think 'belittling' means stating an uncomfortable truth.

Dave Allen essentially handed the club to them. The council backed them with our money to the tune of half a million. The supporters have turned out in droves. The Kirks have provided funds. PC has done the business in assembling a team worthy of EFL football.

There are indeed ways and means of getting a point across. Maybe opening 'debate' with complete strangers on the internet with swearing and insults is yours, but it's not a great look.

With your posting history it is ironic that you call someone out over such points,and someone with your views should really not be offended by what you call my 'swearing and insults',that is a bit OTT don't you think.

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

You're the one who's moaning about people belittling and insulting people, whilst doing exactly that. All I'm doing is pointing out your rank hypocrisy.

But if you want to carry on talking out of your 'arris, crack on. I'm not offended in the slightest.

[Alice Cooper]

s42blue, on 14 March 2024 - 11:07 PM, said:

Carson is deplorable. Pitiful, pathetic excuse for a businessman. Cannot stand the man.

This post has been edited by Alice Cooper: 16 March 2024 - 03:36 AM

[Osborne again]

Alice Cooper, on 15 March 2024 - 06:24 PM, said:

Very well said mate although I think you ought to have omitted the word business from businessman.

Probably be able to drop the man bit too.

[Alice Cooper]

Osborne again, on 15 March 2024 - 09:40 PM, said:

Probably be able to drop the man bit too.

This post has been edited by Alice Cooper: 16 March 2024 - 03:35 AM