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Posted 03 January 2009 - 05:15 PM

..from Radio Suffolk's commentary:

For the first forty five Town worked hard, pressed the home player on the ball, got men behind the ball when Ipswich were in possession, played some neat football, and the names Downes, Boden and Ward were held in high regard. A first half of few real opportunities and a struggling Ipswich side, weighted down by expectation, were too direct and underperformed.

The second half saw Ipswich tangibly 'up' their game, earn a definite penalty, go in front, nearly concede an equaliser, then go forward and score a second. From then on they were pretty comfortable without really convincing, whilst Town grafted, lacked a 'Plan B', and rarely had any real impact.

All in all Town gained plaudits but the Championship outfit weren't exactly breathing a sweaty sigh of relief.

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 06:08 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jan 3 2009, 05:18 PM, said:

..from Radio Suffolk's commentary:

For the first forty five Town worked hard, pressed the home player on the ball, got men behind the ball when Ipswich were in possession, played some neat football, and the names Downes, Boden and Ward were held in high regard. A first half of few real opportunities and a struggling Ipswich side, weighted down by expectation, were too direct and underperformed.

The second half saw Ipswich tangibly 'up' their game, earn a definite penalty, go in front, nearly concede an equaliser, then go forward and score a second. From then on they were pretty comfortable without really convincing, whilst Town grafted, lacked a 'Plan B', and rarely had any real impact.

All in all Town gained plaudits but the Championship outfit weren't exactly breathing a sweaty sigh of relief.


Despite playing against higher opposition today, the outcome sounds very similar to a number of games this season.
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 06:25 PM

i really thought we wer excellent first half but second half we dwelled on the ball far too much and started giving them time on the ball. Need a striker and fast coz boden isnt the answer
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 06:31 PM

View PostSpire123, on Jan 3 2009, 06:28 PM, said:

i really thought we wer excellent first half but second half we dwelled on the ball far too much and started giving them time on the ball. Need a striker and fast coz boden isnt the answer


I bow to the fact that you were there and all i have to go on is Radio Suffolk's commentary. But they spoke highly of Boden, not to mention Ward and Downes, and gave us a great deal of credit even if they suggested that the home side underperformed in the first half.

Second half came across as pretty mundane once their second sealed the result.

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 06:37 PM

im sure anyone that was ther will agree that he was decent in spells and that is being generous...i'll give it to him that he worked hard and did some nice touches every now and again but he was wimping out of challenges that wer there to be won and also he doesnt shoot enough.
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 07:01 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jan 3 2009, 06:34 PM, said:

I bow to the fact that you were there and all i have to go on is Radio Suffolk's commentary. But they spoke highly of Boden, not to mention Ward and Downes, and gave us a great deal of credit even if they suggested that the home side underperformed in the first half.

Second half came across as pretty mundane once their second sealed the result.



It's interesting reading about what commentators for another station in a different part of the country who usually want higher level football think of how we played today and our players. Particularly regarding the players we don't reckon much too. Boden is only about 18 and doesn't even have a handful of league appearances under his belt. It's hard to sum Boden up on what little we've seen on him, but for people from another station to praise him for how he's done today he can't be that bad can he, 18 years old, lots of time to improve. I also see they liked what they saw of Winter.

I listened to Sheff today. Didn't expect us still to be in with a shout at half time, but was impressed that we were. The penalty obviously changed the game, and from what i understand it was harsh. Another goal shortly after and it was tie over. I didn't expect much worse that 2-0, but seeing that Stead was on the bench i suppose a 3rd was inevitable. At the end of the day it was something of a bonus to be in the 3rd round today, did expect an upset as we couldn't get past droylsden with ease. But it doesn't sound as bad as the scoreline suggests.

What we need to do now is take this FA cup money and use it where we need it most, sounds as though it's rico that will be using it, so he better use it wisely, but the extra £'s may do wonders to get players here that actually make a difference.
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 07:32 PM

View PostBlueprint, on Jan 3 2009, 07:04 PM, said:

It's interesting reading about what commentators for another station in a different part of the country who usually want higher level football think of how we played today and our players. Particularly regarding the players we don't reckon much too. Boden is only about 18 and doesn't even have a handful of league appearances under his belt. It's hard to sum Boden up on what little we've seen on him, but for people from another station to praise him for how he's done today he can't be that bad can he, 18 years old, lots of time to improve. I also see they liked what they saw of Winter.

I listened to Sheff today. Didn't expect us still to be in with a shout at half time, but was impressed that we were. The penalty obviously changed the game, and from what i understand it was harsh. Another goal shortly after and it was tie over. I didn't expect much worse that 2-0, but seeing that Stead was on the bench i suppose a 3rd was inevitable. At the end of the day it was something of a bonus to be in the 3rd round today, did expect an upset as we couldn't get past droylsden with ease. But it doesn't sound as bad as the scoreline suggests.

What we need to do now is take this FA cup money and use it where we need it most, sounds as though it's rico that will be using it, so he better use it wisely, but the extra £'s may do wonders to get players here that actually make a difference.


The penalty "harsh"?

Who says, Geoff Mitch?

The Ipswich people, who'd been extremely complimentary to Town and prepared to be critical of their own side, suggested it was pretty cut and dried.

As for Richardson bringing players in, on the evidence of the other thirty six he's signed, it'll make no difference whatsoever.

And if Hubbard allows him the time to do so, then he's not fit to run this football club.
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 07:48 PM

The penalty was a penalty. blatant hand ball, it was a stupid action by the player not the official. However, the ref (the replacement 1) was very iffy, seeming to favour ipswich. I felt we played very well first half, but seemed to lose confidence in the 2nd half after giving away the penalty. But still, we didnt embaress ourselves, boden and ward were pursuing every ball up front. the problem seemed to be good supply for the forwards today. Downes was solid at the back, but austin, though played well, suffered from lack of speed.
The town fans were brilliant today, singing throughout, and packed the away stand, well done to those who came. Ipswich fans were, in a word, appalling. I don't think there was a single chant from them, and even when they scored it was the quietest cheering i've ever known, not to mention the collection of idiots below us in the next stand.
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 08:03 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jan 3 2009, 07:35 PM, said:

The penalty "harsh"?

Who says, Geoff Mitch?

The Ipswich people, who'd been extremely complimentary to Town and prepared to be critical of their own side, suggested it was pretty cut and dried.

As for Richardson bringing players in, on the evidence of the other thirty six he's signed, it'll make no difference whatsoever.

And if Hubbard allows him the time to do so, then he's not fit to run this football club.


As with any decision like the one that led to the penalty the only way to be sure is to view it using technology which i doubt your favourite radio station had seen when they commented. As for the person who thought it was harsh, Rico said on radio sheff that Phil Picken thought the penalty was harsh as it hit his arm pit and rib and brushed his arm, it wasn't intentional. You really are obsessed with Geoff aren't you, you've spend the afternoon listening to two radio stations so you could compare the two. Was geoff's analysis as bad as you expected?

As for the part about bringing in players, it's january now, the transfer window is open, we have money from the FA cup, rico is still in charge, and we need better players so just piecing those things together i reckon that rico needs to bringing in players to improve the squad, but players who make an impact like the players he signed at the start of his managerial reign, not the ones we saw in the most recent season.

Lester, Fletcher, Leven, Rooney, and Dowson have been Rico's better signings, players who make an impact like they did are what we need.

Surely more money will allow us to get better players in, ones that aren't either 35 or 18 years old with more potential that say Harsley. More quality in midfield and a big lad up front may improve us very much and the FA cup money may be just what is needed to secure the services of the players we are lacking.
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 08:16 PM

View PostBlueprint, on Jan 3 2009, 08:06 PM, said:

As with any decision like the one that led to the penalty the only way to be sure is to view it using technology which i doubt your favourite radio station had seen when they commented. As for the person who thought it was harsh, Rico said on radio sheff that Phil Picken thought the penalty was harsh as it hit his arm pit and rib and brushed his arm, it wasn't intentional. You really are obsessed with Geoff aren't you, you've spend the afternoon listening to two radio stations so you could compare the two. Was geoff's analysis as bad as you expected?
As for the part about bringing in players, it's january now, the transfer window is open, we have money from the FA cup, rico is still in charge, and we need better players so just piecing those things together i reckon that rico needs to bringing in players to improve the squad, but players who make an impact like the players he signed at the start of his managerial reign, not the ones we saw in the most recent season.

Lester, Fletcher, Leven, Rooney, and Dowson have been Rico's better signings, players who make an impact like they did are what we need.

Surely more money will allow us to get better players in, ones that aren't either 35 or 18 years old with more potential that say Harsley. More quality in midfield and a big lad up front may improve us very much and the FA cup money may be just what is needed to secure the services of the players we are lacking.


Obsessed?

Some might consider the weekly attempts to portray Richardson in as positive a light as possible as an 'obsession'.

For what it's worth i thought Geoff's contributions were pretty much in line with what i was hearing from the Ipswich end in the first half, but the more the game progressed, the greater the divergence of reporting.

And his final interview with Richardson?

Well, it's a good job i've a strong stomach...
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 08:35 PM

weekly obsession?? Did Rico not sign those players i mentioned.

Didn't really listen to what Geoff said in his final interview with rico, just recall parts of what Rico said, was suprised to hear that tbh as i switched over to 5 live for a while after the game.

From what i gather we were unlucky to lose 3-0 given how well we did first half but given how our season has been so far, how we failed to beat Droylsden on 3 occasions i'd have expected a 3-0 score before the game started. That man incharge of our club said after the game something about their quality winning the game, that's perhaps correct given that they are 10th in the championship and Stead who came on as sub would probably walk into any side in this division.

I'm not getting down today as we went out of the cup to a side we expected to lose to, and i don't see that this game will add anything to the rico out campaign, infact the first half performance probably does the opposite, we had more possession, more shots and were on a par with them until the peno decision.

Back to the league and the attempt to get better results than in 2008.
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 09:13 PM

View PostBlueprint, on Jan 3 2009, 08:38 PM, said:

weekly obsession?? Did Rico not sign those players i mentioned.

Didn't really listen to what Geoff said in his final interview with rico, just recall parts of what Rico said, was suprised to hear that tbh as i switched over to 5 live for a while after the game.

From what i gather we were unlucky to lose 3-0 given how well we did first half but given how our season has been so far, how we failed to beat Droylsden on 3 occasions i'd have expected a 3-0 score before the game started. That man incharge of our club said after the game something about their quality winning the game, that's perhaps correct given that they are 10th in the championship and Stead who came on as sub would probably walk into any side in this division.

I'm not getting down today as we went out of the cup to a side we expected to lose to, and i don't see that this game will add anything to the rico out campaign, infact the first half performance probably does the opposite, we had more possession, more shots and were on a par with them until the peno decision.

Back to the league and the attempt to get better results than in 2008.

He done enough allready on his own.....
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View PostCheshunt Spireite, on Jan 3 2009, 07:51 PM, said:

The penalty was a penalty. blatant hand ball, it was a stupid action by the player not the official. However, the ref (the replacement 1) was very iffy, seeming to favour ipswich. I felt we played very well first half, but seemed to lose confidence in the 2nd half after giving away the penalty. But still, we didnt embaress ourselves, boden and ward were pursuing every ball up front. the problem seemed to be good supply for the forwards today. Downes was solid at the back, but austin, though played well, suffered from lack of speed.
The town fans were brilliant today, singing throughout, and packed the away stand, well done to those who came. Ipswich fans were, in a word, appalling. I don't think there was a single chant from them, and even when they scored it was the quietest cheering i've ever known, not to mention the collection of idiots below us in the next stand.


No way on this earth was that a penalty and i will tell you this they needed that bit of help from that official because without it they wouldn't have scored,that award was a sucker punch to us and the final score line flattered them,there fans were weird was they real ? hardly moved all day and the falsest of cheering of goals i have ever witnessed at a football match,it was noisy in our end but i cannot recall them singing at all......

Oh and thanks Dave Pace had a good day out and we went out of the competition legally.....

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 09:54 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jan 3 2009, 06:34 PM, said:

I bow to the fact that you were there and all i have to go on is Radio Suffolk's commentary. But they spoke highly of Boden, not to mention Ward and Downes, and gave us a great deal of credit even if they suggested that the home side underperformed in the first half.

Second half came across as pretty mundane once their second sealed the result.



Boden is decent when on the ball and you can tell he has been coached well, however he is so lightweight it's untrue for this standard
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 09:58 PM

View PostErnie Ernie Ernie, on Jan 3 2009, 09:57 PM, said:

Boden is decent when on the ball and you can tell he has been coached well, however he is so lightweight it's untrue for this standard



Have to agree there 100%,needs some upper body strength.A couple of times today pulled out of challenges.Do you think Newton or Caldwell would have let there keeper get away with it like Boden did in the first half, where Boden nearly got hurt by pulling out.Should have gone thrrough him and let him know he was there!!!
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Posted 04 January 2009 - 12:27 AM

View PostBlueprint, on Jan 3 2009, 08:06 PM, said:

As with any decision like the one that led to the penalty the only way to be sure is to view it using technology which i doubt your favourite radio station had seen when they commented. As for the person who thought it was harsh, Rico said on radio sheff that Phil Picken thought the penalty was harsh as it hit his arm pit and rib and brushed his arm, it wasn't intentional. You really are obsessed with Geoff aren't you, you've spend the afternoon listening to two radio stations so you could compare the two. Was geoff's analysis as bad as you expected?

As for the part about bringing in players, it's january now, the transfer window is open, we have money from the FA cup, rico is still in charge, and we need better players so just piecing those things together i reckon that rico needs to bringing in players to improve the squad, but players who make an impact like the players he signed at the start of his managerial reign, not the ones we saw in the most recent season.

Lester, Fletcher, Leven, Rooney, and Dowson have been Rico's better signings, players who make an impact like they did are what we need.

Surely more money will allow us to get better players in, ones that aren't either 35 or 18 years old with more potential that say Harsley. More quality in midfield and a big lad up front may improve us very much and the FA cup money may be just what is needed to secure the services of the players we are lacking.
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No way on this earth was that a penalty and i will tell you this they needed that bit of help from that official because without it they wouldn't have scored,that award was a sucker punch to us and the final score line flattered them,there fans were weird was they real ? hardly moved all day and the falsest of cheering of goals i have ever witnessed at a football match,it was noisy in our end but i cannot recall them singing at all......

Oh and thanks Dave Pace had a good day out and we went out of the competition legally.....

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 05:25 AM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jan 3 2009, 05:18 PM, said:

..from Radio Suffolk's commentary:

For the first forty five Town worked hard, pressed the home player on the ball, got men behind the ball when Ipswich were in possession, played some neat football, and the names Downes, Boden and Ward were held in high regard. A first half of few real opportunities and a struggling Ipswich side, weighted down by expectation, were too direct and underperformed.

The second half saw Ipswich tangibly 'up' their game, earn a definite penalty, go in front, nearly concede an equaliser, then go forward and score a second. From then on they were pretty comfortable without really convincing, whilst Town grafted, lacked a 'Plan B', and rarely had any real impact.

All in all Town gained plaudits but the Championship outfit weren't exactly breathing a sweaty sigh of relief.

just about sums it up decent first half caved in quite easily second
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Posted 04 January 2009 - 08:31 AM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jan 3 2009, 05:18 PM, said:

..from Radio Suffolk's commentary:

For the first forty five Town worked hard, pressed the home player on the ball, got men behind the ball when Ipswich were in possession, played some neat football, and the names Downes, Boden and Ward were held in high regard. A first half of few real opportunities and a struggling Ipswich side, weighted down by expectation, were too direct and underperformed.

The second half saw Ipswich tangibly 'up' their game, earn a definite penalty, go in front, nearly concede an equaliser, then go forward and score a second. From then on they were pretty comfortable without really convincing, whilst Town grafted, lacked a 'Plan B', and rarely had any real impact.

All in all Town gained plaudits but the Championship outfit weren't exactly breathing a sweaty sigh of relief.


From where we were sat, and it was the other end of the ground it looked as stonewall as you could get, sorry `blue cant see how u thought it wasn`t one (but its all about opinions), saying that I thought we also had a very genuine shout for one a minute later, and that was in front of us. As someone said earlier, the replacement ref was iffy ( but not on their pen), but once again like u said Chris..NO PLAN B..and if teams like Macclesfield et all can work us out I suppose Ipswich were always going to ..shame though, because first half we really did do well.
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Posted 04 January 2009 - 08:34 AM

View Postspireiteblue, on Jan 3 2009, 09:53 PM, said:

No way on this earth was that a penalty and i will tell you this they needed that bit of help from that official because without it they wouldn't have scored,that award was a sucker punch to us and the final score line flattered them,there fans were weird was they real ? hardly moved all day and the falsest of cheering of goals i have ever witnessed at a football match,it was noisy in our end but i cannot recall them singing at all......

Oh and thanks Dave Pace had a good day out and we went out of the competition legally.....


Agree with that, the third goal gives the impression it was a bit of a rout..second half stroll for them maybe..but never a thrashing.
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Posted 04 January 2009 - 11:43 AM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on Jan 3 2009, 07:35 PM, said:

The penalty "harsh"?

Who says, Geoff Mitch?


I say it was harsh because i was at the game it was very close to being outside the box for one thing i haven't seen the incident again yet so can't say either way but from witnessing the incident happening it was harsh.
Town were superb first half so were the support for the entire game, the best atmosphere at an away game i have witnessed for quite a while.
Second half we were poor especially the last twenty, the chance Kerry missed at two nil a clear header six yards out under no pressure was sunday league stuff.
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