[mr. smith]

Search and Destroy, on 01 June 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

You are sort of excusing for them

no im not. convicted paedos should be locked up for a very very long time regardless of their sex, race, religion, wealth. fame etc.
sick is sick.

[turrhall]

kh83, on 01 June 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

No the Catholic Priesthood isn't anywhere near the biggest paedo gang, maybe it used to be many years ago. This type of pedophilia, as in Groomomg gangs, large groups of men (or women) grooming young girls by buying them drink drugs and food, transporting them to other members to share with.. (I feel sick) is categorized as category 1 pedophilia. Cat 2 is your typical online groomer, middle aged weirdo preying on young children as a lone wolf. The perpetrators for Cat 2 are 90% white British which closely reflects the make up of society.
The perpetrators of Cat 1 pedophilia are 84% Pakistani Muslim Men. Considering Pakistani Muslim Men only make up 2% of the population you can see the enormity of the problem... Thankfully these vile creatures are now being stopped and prosecuted after years even decades of cover ups and silence. Love or hate Tommy, no body can deny his part in raising awareness of this national epidemic.

According to the article I read today, Pakistanis make up 75% of cat 1, and white british make up 100% of cat 2, but cat 2 occurrences are a lot more prevalent that cat 1. On top of that, there's no strict definition of what the definition of a 'grooming gang' or a 'paedophile ring' is, which skews the cat 1 data even more skewed.

[Westbars Spireite]

Goku, on 01 June 2018 - 09:36 AM, said:

Well you would say that, because you're a Muslim and he's thoroughly anti-Islam, as everybody should be as it is a disgusting monstrous oppressive ideology

You are very un-PC saying that but 'tis true.

[calvin plummers socks]

kh83, on 01 June 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

There's a simple reason for that. Tommy is a self confessed anti Islamic activist raising awareness of the dangers of Islam, one of which being the Muslim Grooming Gangs. This is what he does. Just because he doesn't campaign against the Catholic priests or the online groomers, doesn't mean he isn't disgusted by it like everyone else.

No the Catholic Priesthood isn't anywhere near the biggest paedo gang, maybe it used to be many years ago. This type of pedophilia, as in Groomomg gangs, large groups of men (or women) grooming young girls by buying them drink drugs and food, transporting them to other members to share with.. (I feel sick) is categorized as category 1 pedophilia. Cat 2 is your typical online groomer, middle aged weirdo preying on young children as a lone wolf. The perpetrators for Cat 2 are 90% white British which closely reflects the make up of society.
The perpetrators of Cat 1 pedophilia are 84% Pakistani Muslim Men. Considering Pakistani Muslim Men only make up 2% of the population you can see the enormity of the problem... Thankfully these vile creatures are now being stopped and prosecuted after years even decades of cover ups and silence. Love or hate Tommy, no body can deny his part in raising awareness of this national epidemic.

Are you going to be writing fan mail to him inside?

[mr. smith]

kh83, on 01 June 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

There's a simple reason for that. Tommy is a self confessed anti Islamic activist raising awareness of the dangers of Islam, one of which being the Muslim Grooming Gangs. This is what he does. Just because he doesn't campaign against the Catholic priests or the online groomers, doesn't mean he isn't disgusted by it like everyone else.

No the Catholic Priesthood isn't anywhere near the biggest paedo gang, maybe it used to be many years ago. This type of pedophilia, as in Groomomg gangs, large groups of men (or women) grooming young girls by buying them drink drugs and food, transporting them to other members to share with.. (I feel sick) is categorized as category 1 pedophilia. Cat 2 is your typical online groomer, middle aged weirdo preying on young children as a lone wolf. The perpetrators for Cat 2 are 90% white British which closely reflects the make up of society.
The perpetrators of Cat 1 pedophilia are 84% Pakistani Muslim Men. Considering Pakistani Muslim Men only make up 2% of the population you can see the enormity of the problem... Thankfully these vile creatures are now being stopped and prosecuted after years even decades of cover ups and silence. Love or hate Tommy, no body can deny his part in raising awareness of this national epidemic.

although whilst involved with the edl he did campaign to overturn the sentence against one of their hierarchy for having child porn images on a computer.
seems not all nonces are equally contemptable in mr Robinsons eyes.

[Halcyon]

turrhall, on 01 June 2018 - 03:59 PM, said:

According to the article I read today, Pakistanis make up 75% of cat 1, and white british make up 100% of cat 2, but cat 2 occurrences are a lot more prevalent that cat 1. On top of that, there's no strict definition of what the definition of a 'grooming gang' or a 'paedophile ring' is, which skews the cat 1 data even more skewed.

Pakistanis must be really hacked off with this statistic. The so-called "Pakistani" males involved in these gangs are almost exclusively from District Mirpur, Kashmir. When I worked in Pakistan decades ago, that part of the country was not even classed as Pakistan. It was known as Azad Kashmir i.e. the part of Kashmir occupied by Pakistan; the rest belonged to India, and still does.

[kh83]

turrhall, on 01 June 2018 - 03:59 PM, said:

According to the article I read today, Pakistanis make up 75% of cat 1, and white british make up 100% of cat 2, but cat 2 occurrences are a lot more prevalent that cat 1. On top of that, there's no strict definition of what the definition of a 'grooming gang' or a 'paedophile ring' is, which skews the cat 1 data even more skewed.

Its actually Pakistani and Bangledeshi Muslim Men that make up the 84%.
Whichever way you look at it, what's clear is we have a major issue in this country in all categories.

[Halcyon]

The statistics are as duff as old boots (my words, not theirs) according to the Quilliam Foundation.

[kh83]

pompeyfan, on 05 June 2018 - 07:33 AM, said:

The statistics are as duff as old boots (my words, not theirs) according to the Quilliam Foundation.

Funny that because Maajid Nawaz from the Quilliam Foundation, was on the Pledge quoting those exact figures, last week.

[Halcyon]

kh83, on 05 June 2018 - 10:27 AM, said:

Funny that because Maajid Nawaz from the Quilliam Foundation, was on the Pledge quoting those exact figures, last week.

Yes, I've seen that. If you register with the Quilliam Foundation you can see the fully detailed response. PS Don't buy The Sun.

[kh83]

pompeyfan, on 06 June 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

Yes, I've seen that. If you register with the Quilliam Foundation you can see the fully detailed response. PS Don't buy The Sun.

I've never bought the Sun in my life, wouldn't even take one when they were giving them away free at the local spar... not sure what that's got to do with anything though

[turrhall]

TR supporters showing their true face today in London, scrapping with police. But it's the Muslims that are violent and don't abide by the law...

[hilly81]

turrhall, on 09 June 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

TR supporters showing their true face today in London, scrapping with police. But it's the Muslims that are violent and don't abide by the law...

Who could possibly have imagined that supporters of a violent thug would turn out to be violent thugs.

[calvin plummers socks]

hilly81, on 09 June 2018 - 10:11 PM, said:

Who could possibly have imagined that supporters of a violent thug would turn out to be violent thugs.

And can you imagine the type of people who wouid travel to such an event!

[Westbars Spireite]

I wonder if the police helped proceedings.

[turrhall]

Westbars Spireite, on 10 June 2018 - 12:58 PM, said:

I wonder if the police helped proceedings.

I wonder if the drunk fascists helped proceedings.

[Goku]

Saw videos of them lobbing glass bottles into the faces of retreating policemen. Complete and utter pondlife.

Also: https://twitter.com/...1887350784?s=21

This post has been edited by Goku: 10 June 2018 - 03:20 PM

[Westbars Spireite]

turrhall, on 10 June 2018 - 01:20 PM, said:

I wonder if the drunk fascists helped proceedings.

The police have a job to do regardless.

[frearsghost]

turrhall, on 09 June 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

TR supporters showing their true face today in London, scrapping with police. But it's the Muslims that are violent and don't abide by the law...

I give you ISIS - Muslim terrorists who have murdered in cold blood, thousands in some of the most violent, barbaric ways imaginable, yet you equate 'scrapping,' on a demonstration, as somehow on par. Earlier, you quoted 'research' which questioned the validity/existence of grooming gangs and pedophile rings and concluded the rate of crimes among Pakistani Muslims in Cat 1, is flawed.

I would contend that if we seek solutions to such serious crimes, it's common sense to identify the groups to which they belong. Apologists, obscures focus groups, protects them - transferring the problem elsewhere - and prevents solutions. That might be good for community relations but it demonstrates a lack of moral courage at a time when a wrong word, misconstrued, might get you arrested.

NB I should add that in no way do I support the violence at this or any other demonstration.

This post has been edited by frearsghost: 10 June 2018 - 07:43 PM

[turrhall]

frearsghost, on 10 June 2018 - 07:39 PM, said:

I give you ISIS - Muslim terrorists who have murdered in cold blood, thousands in some of the most violent, barbaric ways imaginable, yet you equate 'scrapping,' on a demonstration, as somehow on par. Earlier, you quoted 'research' which questioned the validity/existence of grooming gangs and pedophile rings and concluded the rate of crimes among Pakistani Muslims in Cat 1, is flawed.

I would contend that if we seek solutions to such serious crimes, it's common sense to identify the groups to which they belong. Apologists, obscures focus groups, protects them - transferring the problem elsewhere - and prevents solutions. That might be good for community relations but it demonstrates a lack of moral courage at a time when a wrong word, misconstrued, might get you arrested.

NB I should add that in no way do I support the violence at this or any other demonstration.

I don't remember the march against old, white men in the wake of the revelations about Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris and Gary Glitter and Barry Bennell and Max Clifford and Cyril Smith and Stuart Hall and Fred the Weatherman etc and so on.

Is it a just a coincidence that the vast majority of TR fans are at least 2 of 'old', 'white' and 'men'?