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Probably because TNT want more money to make more Profits . Wouldn't be surprised if The deal with Virgin TV doesn't change too
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Talking of TV deals, this appeared on the BBC website today, about the Flawless TV App that offered PL matches that were not allowed to be shown in the UK. Not sure why the trial was held at Derby Crown Court when the main man lived in West London.
TV fraud gang jailed for illegally streaming Premier League games
By Tom Symonds and Tom Grundy
BBC News
Five men who illegally streamed Premier League football matches to tens of thousands of people have been jailed.
The gang sold cut-price £10-a-month subscriptions, bragging they made money showing games not otherwise available to watch live in the UK because of "blackout" broadcasting rules.
Their operation, described as the biggest so far, received more than £7m from 50,000 subscribers.
The sentencing follows a rare private prosecution by the Premier League.
The fraud prosecution was brought to protect "some of the world's most valuable content", the league's lawyers said.
It followed a lengthy trading-standards investigation led by Hammersmith and Fulham Council.
And the personal details of many of those who paid for Flawless TV are now in the hands of investigators, raising the question of what action might be taken against them.
Bodycam images show Mark Gould on his sofa as investigators searched his south London flat
At Derby Crown Court, the gang's "prime mover", Mark Gould, 36, was sentenced to 11 years in prison.
Four other members were sentenced to between three and more than five years.
One of them, Christopher Felvus, 36, was also found guilty of voyeurism and possessing indecent images of children, discovered on his computer.
Trading-standards investigator Doug Love led a raid on Gould's smart riverside flat in Greenwich, south London.
"I don't think any of us realised how big it was," Mr Love tells BBC News.
Investigators found dozens of linked set-top boxes at the flat
"When we went into the spare bedroom, there were 20 or 30 set-top boxes linked together."
The gang took feeds from broadcasters in the UK, Qatar, the US, Australia and Canada and streamed them a few seconds later via the Flawless service.
The operation developed apps offering Premier League matches and other content, which ran on phones and smart TVs.
Users picked what they wanted to watch from a fully-functional on-screen programme guide.
The gang made £7.2m between 2016 and 2021, according to the league. Gould personally made more than £1.7m.
Direct subscribers paid £10 a month to watch every Premier League game, compared with about £80 a month for legal services from Sky, BT Sport and Amazon Prime.
'3pm kick-off'
The case has highlighted a demand for illegal streaming, created by the unavailability of many football matches on TV.
Uefa allows the Premier League to prevent broadcasts of UK matches between 14:45 and 17:15 on Saturdays.
The "blackout", in place for decades, is to encourage fans to attend matches, at all levels of football, rather than watch on TV.
But Flawless offered subscribers "3pm kick-off" Premier League games, otherwise broadcast only abroad.
The gang had exchanged messages saying the "blackout" was "good for business", accounting for 80% of subscribers, prosecutor David Groome told the court.
Research from the Intellectual Property Office estimates nearly four million people in the UK used an illegal source to watch live sport last year.
Some pubs and bars also use illegal streams to show unavailable matches, or to avoid the cost of official services, which can be more than £20,000 a year for commercial premises.
Fans point out while most games are not televised in the UK, they are all shown live overseas.
"The Premier League is on our doorstep and yet we have the least amount of access to that football," YouTuber Daniel Bradley, also known as FPL Mate, says.
"I would pay more for more - but I don't have that option."
When the investigators raided the homes of gang members, they seized computer equipment and documents detailing the operation of Flawless.
As a result, they now have payment information for thousands of those who subscribed to the service.
The Premier League pays the Federation Against Copyright Theft to investigate and enforce its copyright over football content.
Fact visits those identified as using illegal football streaming, warning them they are potentially breaking the law, as well as issuing "cease and desist" letters to those running streams.
But it seems highly unlikely fans will face legal action.
One of the barristers who worked on the Flawless case, Ari Alibhai, said, in an online seminar, in 2021: "In practice, the idea of someone being prosecuted who isn't also concerned in the trade, so they aren't also concerned in supplying illicit television services, is minimal."
Steal money
But fans thinking of subscribing to illegal streams could be setting themselves up for another headache.
"You get sports and you are getting a cheap price," Mr Love says. "But you're committing an offence and putting yourself in danger.
"You are contributing to organised crime who won't be paying taxes and can make a quick buck by selling your details on."
These could be used to steal money or hack computers. The streaming sites themselves are also riddled with malware and pornography.
Big business
Prosecutors in the Flawless case described the lengths to which gangs would go to avoid detection, in a cat-and-mouse game between broadcasters and illegal streamers.
Sky adds a code on screen during its broadcasts, which acts as a watermark, so it can determine which legitimate accounts are being used for offering illegal streaming.
But the Flawless gang developed software to blur the watermark - and so Sky randomised its on-screen position to prevent that.
Covert "test purchases" and subscriptions are also used in the fight against copyright theft, helping the Premier League take down 590,000 streams in 2021.
But it remains big business - and when Flawless was shut down, other services were quick to take over, amid complaints from users online.
The investigation into the gang continues, with the aim of seizing the illegal money they made.
'Financial contribution'
The Premier League's legal team say they will now pursue other illegal streaming operators.
"The Premier League's substantial financial contribution to the entire football pyramid is made possible through the ability to sell our broadcast rights," the league's general counsel, Kevin Plumb, said.
"We are pleased that through rulings such as this, the courts continue to show that they recognise the importance of safeguarding the Premier League's rights.
"We will continue to protect our rights and our fans by investigating and prosecuting illegal operators at all levels."
TV fraud gang jailed for illegally streaming Premier League games
By Tom Symonds and Tom Grundy
BBC News
Five men who illegally streamed Premier League football matches to tens of thousands of people have been jailed.
The gang sold cut-price £10-a-month subscriptions, bragging they made money showing games not otherwise available to watch live in the UK because of "blackout" broadcasting rules.
Their operation, described as the biggest so far, received more than £7m from 50,000 subscribers.
The sentencing follows a rare private prosecution by the Premier League.
The fraud prosecution was brought to protect "some of the world's most valuable content", the league's lawyers said.
It followed a lengthy trading-standards investigation led by Hammersmith and Fulham Council.
And the personal details of many of those who paid for Flawless TV are now in the hands of investigators, raising the question of what action might be taken against them.
Bodycam images show Mark Gould on his sofa as investigators searched his south London flat
At Derby Crown Court, the gang's "prime mover", Mark Gould, 36, was sentenced to 11 years in prison.
Four other members were sentenced to between three and more than five years.
One of them, Christopher Felvus, 36, was also found guilty of voyeurism and possessing indecent images of children, discovered on his computer.
Trading-standards investigator Doug Love led a raid on Gould's smart riverside flat in Greenwich, south London.
"I don't think any of us realised how big it was," Mr Love tells BBC News.
Investigators found dozens of linked set-top boxes at the flat
"When we went into the spare bedroom, there were 20 or 30 set-top boxes linked together."
The gang took feeds from broadcasters in the UK, Qatar, the US, Australia and Canada and streamed them a few seconds later via the Flawless service.
The operation developed apps offering Premier League matches and other content, which ran on phones and smart TVs.
Users picked what they wanted to watch from a fully-functional on-screen programme guide.
The gang made £7.2m between 2016 and 2021, according to the league. Gould personally made more than £1.7m.
Direct subscribers paid £10 a month to watch every Premier League game, compared with about £80 a month for legal services from Sky, BT Sport and Amazon Prime.
'3pm kick-off'
The case has highlighted a demand for illegal streaming, created by the unavailability of many football matches on TV.
Uefa allows the Premier League to prevent broadcasts of UK matches between 14:45 and 17:15 on Saturdays.
The "blackout", in place for decades, is to encourage fans to attend matches, at all levels of football, rather than watch on TV.
But Flawless offered subscribers "3pm kick-off" Premier League games, otherwise broadcast only abroad.
The gang had exchanged messages saying the "blackout" was "good for business", accounting for 80% of subscribers, prosecutor David Groome told the court.
Research from the Intellectual Property Office estimates nearly four million people in the UK used an illegal source to watch live sport last year.
Some pubs and bars also use illegal streams to show unavailable matches, or to avoid the cost of official services, which can be more than £20,000 a year for commercial premises.
Fans point out while most games are not televised in the UK, they are all shown live overseas.
"The Premier League is on our doorstep and yet we have the least amount of access to that football," YouTuber Daniel Bradley, also known as FPL Mate, says.
"I would pay more for more - but I don't have that option."
When the investigators raided the homes of gang members, they seized computer equipment and documents detailing the operation of Flawless.
As a result, they now have payment information for thousands of those who subscribed to the service.
The Premier League pays the Federation Against Copyright Theft to investigate and enforce its copyright over football content.
Fact visits those identified as using illegal football streaming, warning them they are potentially breaking the law, as well as issuing "cease and desist" letters to those running streams.
But it seems highly unlikely fans will face legal action.
One of the barristers who worked on the Flawless case, Ari Alibhai, said, in an online seminar, in 2021: "In practice, the idea of someone being prosecuted who isn't also concerned in the trade, so they aren't also concerned in supplying illicit television services, is minimal."
Steal money
But fans thinking of subscribing to illegal streams could be setting themselves up for another headache.
"You get sports and you are getting a cheap price," Mr Love says. "But you're committing an offence and putting yourself in danger.
"You are contributing to organised crime who won't be paying taxes and can make a quick buck by selling your details on."
These could be used to steal money or hack computers. The streaming sites themselves are also riddled with malware and pornography.
Big business
Prosecutors in the Flawless case described the lengths to which gangs would go to avoid detection, in a cat-and-mouse game between broadcasters and illegal streamers.
Sky adds a code on screen during its broadcasts, which acts as a watermark, so it can determine which legitimate accounts are being used for offering illegal streaming.
But the Flawless gang developed software to blur the watermark - and so Sky randomised its on-screen position to prevent that.
Covert "test purchases" and subscriptions are also used in the fight against copyright theft, helping the Premier League take down 590,000 streams in 2021.
But it remains big business - and when Flawless was shut down, other services were quick to take over, amid complaints from users online.
The investigation into the gang continues, with the aim of seizing the illegal money they made.
'Financial contribution'
The Premier League's legal team say they will now pursue other illegal streaming operators.
"The Premier League's substantial financial contribution to the entire football pyramid is made possible through the ability to sell our broadcast rights," the league's general counsel, Kevin Plumb, said.
"We are pleased that through rulings such as this, the courts continue to show that they recognise the importance of safeguarding the Premier League's rights.
"We will continue to protect our rights and our fans by investigating and prosecuting illegal operators at all levels."
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Posted 31 May 2023 - 05:47 AM
£10pm is steep. I paid £40 for the year I think.
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Posted 31 May 2023 - 06:44 AM
Normally got bt sport as a mobile add on via ee, its now gone up to 25 quid a month, not so long back was only 15 quid. However its on a month to month contract so can be cancelled during close season or during a time when theres nothing on you want to watch. Now tv sky sports was the best value last season, 20 quid a month for all channels
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philtooleycfss, on 30 May 2023 - 09:36 PM, said:
Talking of TV deals, this appeared on the BBC website today, about the Flawless TV App that offered PL matches that were not allowed to be shown in the UK. Not sure why the trial was held at Derby Crown Court when the main man lived in West London.
TV fraud gang jailed for illegally streaming Premier League games
By Tom Symonds and Tom Grundy
BBC News
Five men who illegally streamed Premier League football matches to tens of thousands of people have been jailed.
The gang sold cut-price £10-a-month subscriptions, bragging they made money showing games not otherwise available to watch live in the UK because of "blackout" broadcasting rules.
Their operation, described as the biggest so far, received more than £7m from 50,000 subscribers.
The sentencing follows a rare private prosecution by the Premier League.
The fraud prosecution was brought to protect "some of the world's most valuable content", the league's lawyers said.
It followed a lengthy trading-standards investigation led by Hammersmith and Fulham Council.
And the personal details of many of those who paid for Flawless TV are now in the hands of investigators, raising the question of what action might be taken against them.
Bodycam images show Mark Gould on his sofa as investigators searched his south London flat
At Derby Crown Court, the gang's "prime mover", Mark Gould, 36, was sentenced to 11 years in prison.
Four other members were sentenced to between three and more than five years.
One of them, Christopher Felvus, 36, was also found guilty of voyeurism and possessing indecent images of children, discovered on his computer.
Trading-standards investigator Doug Love led a raid on Gould's smart riverside flat in Greenwich, south London.
"I don't think any of us realised how big it was," Mr Love tells BBC News.
Investigators found dozens of linked set-top boxes at the flat
"When we went into the spare bedroom, there were 20 or 30 set-top boxes linked together."
The gang took feeds from broadcasters in the UK, Qatar, the US, Australia and Canada and streamed them a few seconds later via the Flawless service.
The operation developed apps offering Premier League matches and other content, which ran on phones and smart TVs.
Users picked what they wanted to watch from a fully-functional on-screen programme guide.
The gang made £7.2m between 2016 and 2021, according to the league. Gould personally made more than £1.7m.
Direct subscribers paid £10 a month to watch every Premier League game, compared with about £80 a month for legal services from Sky, BT Sport and Amazon Prime.
'3pm kick-off'
The case has highlighted a demand for illegal streaming, created by the unavailability of many football matches on TV.
Uefa allows the Premier League to prevent broadcasts of UK matches between 14:45 and 17:15 on Saturdays.
The "blackout", in place for decades, is to encourage fans to attend matches, at all levels of football, rather than watch on TV.
But Flawless offered subscribers "3pm kick-off" Premier League games, otherwise broadcast only abroad.
The gang had exchanged messages saying the "blackout" was "good for business", accounting for 80% of subscribers, prosecutor David Groome told the court.
Research from the Intellectual Property Office estimates nearly four million people in the UK used an illegal source to watch live sport last year.
Some pubs and bars also use illegal streams to show unavailable matches, or to avoid the cost of official services, which can be more than £20,000 a year for commercial premises.
Fans point out while most games are not televised in the UK, they are all shown live overseas.
"The Premier League is on our doorstep and yet we have the least amount of access to that football," YouTuber Daniel Bradley, also known as FPL Mate, says.
"I would pay more for more - but I don't have that option."
When the investigators raided the homes of gang members, they seized computer equipment and documents detailing the operation of Flawless.
As a result, they now have payment information for thousands of those who subscribed to the service.
The Premier League pays the Federation Against Copyright Theft to investigate and enforce its copyright over football content.
Fact visits those identified as using illegal football streaming, warning them they are potentially breaking the law, as well as issuing "cease and desist" letters to those running streams.
But it seems highly unlikely fans will face legal action.
One of the barristers who worked on the Flawless case, Ari Alibhai, said, in an online seminar, in 2021: "In practice, the idea of someone being prosecuted who isn't also concerned in the trade, so they aren't also concerned in supplying illicit television services, is minimal."
Steal money
But fans thinking of subscribing to illegal streams could be setting themselves up for another headache.
"You get sports and you are getting a cheap price," Mr Love says. "But you're committing an offence and putting yourself in danger.
"You are contributing to organised crime who won't be paying taxes and can make a quick buck by selling your details on."
These could be used to steal money or hack computers. The streaming sites themselves are also riddled with malware and pornography.
Big business
Prosecutors in the Flawless case described the lengths to which gangs would go to avoid detection, in a cat-and-mouse game between broadcasters and illegal streamers.
Sky adds a code on screen during its broadcasts, which acts as a watermark, so it can determine which legitimate accounts are being used for offering illegal streaming.
But the Flawless gang developed software to blur the watermark - and so Sky randomised its on-screen position to prevent that.
Covert "test purchases" and subscriptions are also used in the fight against copyright theft, helping the Premier League take down 590,000 streams in 2021.
But it remains big business - and when Flawless was shut down, other services were quick to take over, amid complaints from users online.
The investigation into the gang continues, with the aim of seizing the illegal money they made.
'Financial contribution'
The Premier League's legal team say they will now pursue other illegal streaming operators.
"The Premier League's substantial financial contribution to the entire football pyramid is made possible through the ability to sell our broadcast rights," the league's general counsel, Kevin Plumb, said.
"We are pleased that through rulings such as this, the courts continue to show that they recognise the importance of safeguarding the Premier League's rights.
"We will continue to protect our rights and our fans by investigating and prosecuting illegal operators at all levels."
TV fraud gang jailed for illegally streaming Premier League games
By Tom Symonds and Tom Grundy
BBC News
Five men who illegally streamed Premier League football matches to tens of thousands of people have been jailed.
The gang sold cut-price £10-a-month subscriptions, bragging they made money showing games not otherwise available to watch live in the UK because of "blackout" broadcasting rules.
Their operation, described as the biggest so far, received more than £7m from 50,000 subscribers.
The sentencing follows a rare private prosecution by the Premier League.
The fraud prosecution was brought to protect "some of the world's most valuable content", the league's lawyers said.
It followed a lengthy trading-standards investigation led by Hammersmith and Fulham Council.
And the personal details of many of those who paid for Flawless TV are now in the hands of investigators, raising the question of what action might be taken against them.
Bodycam images show Mark Gould on his sofa as investigators searched his south London flat
At Derby Crown Court, the gang's "prime mover", Mark Gould, 36, was sentenced to 11 years in prison.
Four other members were sentenced to between three and more than five years.
One of them, Christopher Felvus, 36, was also found guilty of voyeurism and possessing indecent images of children, discovered on his computer.
Trading-standards investigator Doug Love led a raid on Gould's smart riverside flat in Greenwich, south London.
"I don't think any of us realised how big it was," Mr Love tells BBC News.
Investigators found dozens of linked set-top boxes at the flat
"When we went into the spare bedroom, there were 20 or 30 set-top boxes linked together."
The gang took feeds from broadcasters in the UK, Qatar, the US, Australia and Canada and streamed them a few seconds later via the Flawless service.
The operation developed apps offering Premier League matches and other content, which ran on phones and smart TVs.
Users picked what they wanted to watch from a fully-functional on-screen programme guide.
The gang made £7.2m between 2016 and 2021, according to the league. Gould personally made more than £1.7m.
Direct subscribers paid £10 a month to watch every Premier League game, compared with about £80 a month for legal services from Sky, BT Sport and Amazon Prime.
'3pm kick-off'
The case has highlighted a demand for illegal streaming, created by the unavailability of many football matches on TV.
Uefa allows the Premier League to prevent broadcasts of UK matches between 14:45 and 17:15 on Saturdays.
The "blackout", in place for decades, is to encourage fans to attend matches, at all levels of football, rather than watch on TV.
But Flawless offered subscribers "3pm kick-off" Premier League games, otherwise broadcast only abroad.
The gang had exchanged messages saying the "blackout" was "good for business", accounting for 80% of subscribers, prosecutor David Groome told the court.
Research from the Intellectual Property Office estimates nearly four million people in the UK used an illegal source to watch live sport last year.
Some pubs and bars also use illegal streams to show unavailable matches, or to avoid the cost of official services, which can be more than £20,000 a year for commercial premises.
Fans point out while most games are not televised in the UK, they are all shown live overseas.
"The Premier League is on our doorstep and yet we have the least amount of access to that football," YouTuber Daniel Bradley, also known as FPL Mate, says.
"I would pay more for more - but I don't have that option."
When the investigators raided the homes of gang members, they seized computer equipment and documents detailing the operation of Flawless.
As a result, they now have payment information for thousands of those who subscribed to the service.
The Premier League pays the Federation Against Copyright Theft to investigate and enforce its copyright over football content.
Fact visits those identified as using illegal football streaming, warning them they are potentially breaking the law, as well as issuing "cease and desist" letters to those running streams.
But it seems highly unlikely fans will face legal action.
One of the barristers who worked on the Flawless case, Ari Alibhai, said, in an online seminar, in 2021: "In practice, the idea of someone being prosecuted who isn't also concerned in the trade, so they aren't also concerned in supplying illicit television services, is minimal."
Steal money
But fans thinking of subscribing to illegal streams could be setting themselves up for another headache.
"You get sports and you are getting a cheap price," Mr Love says. "But you're committing an offence and putting yourself in danger.
"You are contributing to organised crime who won't be paying taxes and can make a quick buck by selling your details on."
These could be used to steal money or hack computers. The streaming sites themselves are also riddled with malware and pornography.
Big business
Prosecutors in the Flawless case described the lengths to which gangs would go to avoid detection, in a cat-and-mouse game between broadcasters and illegal streamers.
Sky adds a code on screen during its broadcasts, which acts as a watermark, so it can determine which legitimate accounts are being used for offering illegal streaming.
But the Flawless gang developed software to blur the watermark - and so Sky randomised its on-screen position to prevent that.
Covert "test purchases" and subscriptions are also used in the fight against copyright theft, helping the Premier League take down 590,000 streams in 2021.
But it remains big business - and when Flawless was shut down, other services were quick to take over, amid complaints from users online.
The investigation into the gang continues, with the aim of seizing the illegal money they made.
'Financial contribution'
The Premier League's legal team say they will now pursue other illegal streaming operators.
"The Premier League's substantial financial contribution to the entire football pyramid is made possible through the ability to sell our broadcast rights," the league's general counsel, Kevin Plumb, said.
"We are pleased that through rulings such as this, the courts continue to show that they recognise the importance of safeguarding the Premier League's rights.
"We will continue to protect our rights and our fans by investigating and prosecuting illegal operators at all levels."
Sentences seem harsh but guess they are setting a example. I know commercial premises are charged a fortune for sky and by but these operating dodgy streaming services are pocketing loads of money, no doubt going into other illegal activities and imagine if everyone was a skinflint and streamed sport for nowt, some seem to actually brag about it, they are not proper sport fans. Wheres all the money that goes to lower league clubs come from particulary for ground improvements, sky sports money. Its like if we all streamed movies for nowt, how would they be funded. You ask why the trial was at derby, thats how weird the justice system is now. No nearby courts probably were not free during trial dates. I once spoke with a guy who had to go from chesterfield to a court in plymouth to be trialled for a minor crime which he got a suspended sentence for. Its like if you are arrested for a crime in chesterfield theres a good chance you will be taken to derby police station nearly 30 mile away
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Posted 31 May 2023 - 10:52 AM
You wouldn't be taken to Derby police station at all.
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Posted 31 May 2023 - 12:14 PM
Holmesc1, on 31 May 2023 - 07:24 AM, said:
Sentences seem harsh but guess they are setting a example. I know commercial premises are charged a fortune for sky and by but these operating dodgy streaming services are pocketing loads of money, no doubt going into other illegal activities and imagine if everyone was a skinflint and streamed sport for nowt, some seem to actually brag about it, they are not proper sport fans. Wheres all the money that goes to lower league clubs come from particulary for ground improvements, sky sports money. Its like if we all streamed movies for nowt, how would they be funded. You ask why the trial was at derby, thats how weird the justice system is now. No nearby courts probably were not free during trial dates. I once spoke with a guy who had to go from chesterfield to a court in plymouth to be trialled for a minor crime which he got a suspended sentence for. Its like if you are arrested for a crime in chesterfield theres a good chance you will be taken to derby police station nearly 30 mile away
Do you get a suspended jail term for a minor crime?
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Posted 31 May 2023 - 06:25 PM
Westbars Spireite, on 31 May 2023 - 10:52 AM, said:
You wouldn't be taken to Derby police station at all.
Whilst ripley is now the nearest its still possible to be taken to derby. Sure wont be chesterfield even if the crime is comitted in town as the police station custody has closed down, why it has i have no idea
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Posted 31 May 2023 - 06:26 PM
Holmesc1, on 31 May 2023 - 06:25 PM, said:
Whilst ripley is now the nearest its still possible to be taken to derby. Sure wont be chesterfield even if the crime is comitted in town as the police station custody has closed down, why it has i have no idea
Police cuts due to the Tory government?
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Posted 31 May 2023 - 06:27 PM
Valley Blues, on 31 May 2023 - 12:14 PM, said:
Do you get a suspended jail term for a minor crime?
Possibly yeah
calvin plummers socks, on 31 May 2023 - 06:26 PM, said:
Police cuts due to the Tory government?
Here we go again, everything is the tory governments fault. I suppose its labours pledge to re-open chesterfield police station custody
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Posted 31 May 2023 - 06:32 PM
Holmesc1, on 31 May 2023 - 06:27 PM, said:
Possibly yeah
Here we go again, everything is the tory governments fault. I suppose its labours pledge to re-open chesterfield police station custody
Here we go again, everything is the tory governments fault. I suppose its labours pledge to re-open chesterfield police station custody
I have no idea - but yes the cuts are the governments fault.
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Posted 31 May 2023 - 08:52 PM
I believe you are from London?
Since 2010 there have been 36 police stations shut in the MET, since Sadiq Kahn became LABOUR mayor in 2016, 31 out of the 36 have been shut by himself.
Chesterfield BC (ran by 28 LABOUR and 12 LIB DEM Councillors) created a budget deficit last year of £2.9million overspending of which they paid nearly 2.6million in bonuses to 139 staff members of the council, this was the highest figure in the UK out of the 152 local government councils. Just as a comparison the 2nd highest was Camden with £1.3million.
Maybe it might be the actual local councils fault.
Since 2010 there have been 36 police stations shut in the MET, since Sadiq Kahn became LABOUR mayor in 2016, 31 out of the 36 have been shut by himself.
Chesterfield BC (ran by 28 LABOUR and 12 LIB DEM Councillors) created a budget deficit last year of £2.9million overspending of which they paid nearly 2.6million in bonuses to 139 staff members of the council, this was the highest figure in the UK out of the 152 local government councils. Just as a comparison the 2nd highest was Camden with £1.3million.
Maybe it might be the actual local councils fault.
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Posted 31 May 2023 - 10:44 PM
Tylerdurdencfc, on 31 May 2023 - 08:52 PM, said:
I believe you are from London?
Since 2010 there have been 36 police stations shut in the MET, since Sadiq Kahn became LABOUR mayor in 2016, 31 out of the 36 have been shut by himself.
Chesterfield BC (ran by 28 LABOUR and 12 LIB DEM Councillors) created a budget deficit last year of £2.9million overspending of which they paid nearly 2.6million in bonuses to 139 staff members of the council, this was the highest figure in the UK out of the 152 local government councils. Just as a comparison the 2nd highest was Camden with £1.3million.
Maybe it might be the actual local councils fault.
Since 2010 there have been 36 police stations shut in the MET, since Sadiq Kahn became LABOUR mayor in 2016, 31 out of the 36 have been shut by himself.
Chesterfield BC (ran by 28 LABOUR and 12 LIB DEM Councillors) created a budget deficit last year of £2.9million overspending of which they paid nearly 2.6million in bonuses to 139 staff members of the council, this was the highest figure in the UK out of the 152 local government councils. Just as a comparison the 2nd highest was Camden with £1.3million.
Maybe it might be the actual local councils fault.
Actually not true. The Met is centrally funded. The Mayor’s office can advise on things like recruitment but have no say in anything like closing or selling off stations.
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Posted 31 May 2023 - 11:40 PM
Not built for comfort them cells
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calvin plummers socks, on 31 May 2023 - 10:44 PM, said:
Actually not true. The Met is centrally funded. The Mayor’s office can advise on things like recruitment but have no say in anything like closing or selling off stations.
First of all, I am not Conservative supporter, I have voted Labour and Conservative during my opportunity to vote and unlike some on here I am impartial and what we would consider a floating voter. I vote based on policies not what my Grandad voted for 50 years ago etc.
The Met are centrally funded but the reason for the closures is because Sadiq Kahn decided to close them and sell them to property developers. That is his choice, he controls the MOPAC ( Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime) who distribute budgets and make all the decisions regarding police stations remaining open or closed. For example, he decided to sell Savile Row police station to a Czech property company CPI for more than £50million. The councils have been trying to buy the police stations for the local communities but he has decided to sell them to the highest bidder. All MP's both Labour, Conservative and others representing London councils have urged him to stop doing this.
Between 1997 to 2007 Labour closed 550 police stations averaging 55 a year, in comparison from 2010 to 2023, 667 have closed averaging 51.3 a year.
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Posted 12 June 2023 - 06:54 PM
Westbars Spireite, on 31 May 2023 - 10:52 AM, said:
You wouldn't be taken to Derby police station at all.
I got taken from Warrington handcuffed to handbrake to derby for a small fine
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