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#11501 User is offline   turrhall 

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Posted 10 May 2024 - 09:58 PM

Lads, can't believe I have to say this, but you do know that Hitler never won a fair election right?

Came second to von Hindenburg in '32 in the presidential election, and the nazis didn't win a parliamentary majority until they were unopposed in late '33, post-reichstag fire.

On Farage, as I've said before, he's undoubtedly the most successful UK politician of this century - taken a fringe position on EU membership, made it mainstream and changed the consensus. The guy is obviously a bell end but you can't argue he's not been effective.

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Posted 10 May 2024 - 10:48 PM

View Postturrhall, on 10 May 2024 - 09:58 PM, said:

Lads, can't believe I have to say this, but you do know that Hitler never won a fair election right?

Came second to von Hindenburg in '32 in the presidential election, and the nazis didn't win a parliamentary majority until they were unopposed in late '33, post-reichstag fire.

On Farage, as I've said before, he's undoubtedly the most successful UK politician of this century - taken a fringe position on EU membership, made it mainstream and changed the consensus. The guy is obviously a bell end but you can't argue he's not been effective.


Hitler may not have won a fair election but he was very successful in terms of achieving his objectives - at least for a short while. A bit like Boris.The trouble is they cant keep it up!

Farage is probably similar...

Lets hope we find someone with longevity because what they espouse is real and relatable for the long term...
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Posted 13 May 2024 - 07:05 AM

https://www.bbc.co.u...siness-68999222

Ian not sure I remember you mentioning this one? If you didn’t, I think you’re now duty-bound to make at least 10-20 posts about it like you did Raynor. In fact, it’s so much more money than Raynor allegedly didn’t pay that I think you need to make those posts proportionally in line with the monetary %age increase matey 😉 I think the sum in question for her was £1,500? I make that 0.03% of Zahawi’s sum.

Seriously though, he was only Chanceller of the Exhequer, what hope did he have in understanding the taxation rules? Poor bloke

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Posted 13 May 2024 - 07:45 AM

View PostGoku, on 13 May 2024 - 07:05 AM, said:

https://www.bbc.co.u...siness-68999222

Ian not sure I remember you mentioning this one? If you didn’t, I think you’re now duty-bound to make at least 10-20 posts about it like you did Raynor. In fact, it’s so much more money than Raynor allegedly didn’t pay that I think you need to make those posts proportionally in line with the monetary %age increase matey 😉 I think the sum in question for her was £1,500? I make that 0.03% of Zahawi’s sum.

Seriously though, he was only Chanceller of the Exhequer, what hope did he have in understanding the taxation rules? Poor bloke


Apparently it was careless and not deliberate... when you are dealing with those sorts of sums, surely you get expert advice and therefore there is no being careless? But then its fairly obvious that there are way too many of them who feel like they may make the laws but they dont apply to them. I think his behaviour when he was chancellor and subsequent on his sacking showed what type of person he is.... hopefully of the £5m he has had to pay at least £2m was a fine and he has ended up suitably punished for his carelessness...

On the value, fiddling tax is fiddling tax and knowingly underpaying it is worse than being a benefit cheat in my humble opinion....
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Posted 13 May 2024 - 07:45 AM

View PostGoku, on 13 May 2024 - 07:05 AM, said:

https://www.bbc.co.u...siness-68999222

Ian not sure I remember you mentioning this one? If you didn’t, I think you’re now duty-bound to make at least 10-20 posts about it like you did Raynor. In fact, it’s so much more money than Raynor allegedly didn’t pay that I think you need to make those posts proportionally in line with the monetary %age increase matey 😉 I think the sum in question for her was £1,500? I make that 0.03% of Zahawi’s sum.

Seriously though, he was only Chanceller of the Exhequer, what hope did he have in understanding the taxation rules? Poor bloke


You make a valid point on proportionality but I think you need rules around it. Is it the number of posts? Or the amount of words used per post?

If the proportion of tax relative is to posts that’d see 3300 extra posts purely on a 1:1 basis. If your suggestion of 10x is to be imposed…

Or is it number of words? Otherwise some posters might thousands of posts….others, more verbose, maybe just a couple…

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Posted 13 May 2024 - 07:52 AM

View Posts42blue, on 13 May 2024 - 07:45 AM, said:

You make a valid point on proportionality but I think you need rules around it. Is it the number of posts? Or the amount of words used per post?

If the proportion of tax relative is to posts that’d see 3300 extra posts purely on a 1:1 basis. If you’re suggestion of 10x is to be imposed…

Or is it number of words? Otherwise some posters might thousands of posts….others, more verbose, maybe just a couple…


I'll go for less verbose, can you trust someone who cant even get their tax return right? At least he is standing down and we dont have to worry about what else he gets wrong...
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Posted 13 May 2024 - 12:38 PM

And now he has a lucrative gig as non exec Chair at the Very Group - not sure what he will add to that place, although given the losses they are making this year there wont be any tax to worry about...
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#11508 User is online   The Earl of Chesterfield 

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Posted 13 May 2024 - 05:41 PM

More snubs for Sunak's gimmick...

https://www.bbc.co.u...reland-69001673
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Posted 14 May 2024 - 06:06 PM

With much of the country needing an 'Out of Order' sign stuck over it, the tories' priority is... https://www.mirror.c...-spend-32810310

Brilliantly summed up here... https://www.mirror.c...elling-32800942
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Posted 14 May 2024 - 06:42 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 14 May 2024 - 06:06 PM, said:

With much of the country needing an 'Out of Order' sign stuck over it, the tories' priority is... https://www.mirror.c...-spend-32810310

Brilliantly summed up here... https://www.mirror.c...elling-32800942


From that bastion of impartial reporting The Mirror....

Lets be honest all MPs spend hours sat in the House behaving like children. And pursuing their own pet projects in their constituency or nationally.

The civil servants do all the work.
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#11511 User is online   The Earl of Chesterfield 

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Posted 15 May 2024 - 04:38 PM

Hey everyone - look at this!

https://www.bbc.co.u...litics-69013002

Because, well, we don't want you looking at this... https://news.sky.com...harity-13135769

Or this... https://www.itv.com/...astline-in-2023

Or this... https://www.mirror.c...dviser-32805012

Or even this... https://www.thelondo...n-reach-374711/

And certainly not this... https://news.sky.com...-finds-13135489

But hey, Rishi Sunak insists everyone will be safer if they give him another five years to put right what's happened over the last, erm, fourteen...

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Posted 15 May 2024 - 07:52 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 15 May 2024 - 04:38 PM, said:

Hey everyone - look at this!

https://www.bbc.co.u...litics-69013002



That's what George Galloway thinks. I'm thinking a coalition is on the cards.
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Posted 15 May 2024 - 08:59 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 15 May 2024 - 04:38 PM, said:

Hey everyone - look at this!

https://www.bbc.co.u...litics-69013002

Because, well, we don't want you looking at this... https://news.sky.com...harity-13135769

Or this... https://www.itv.com/...astline-in-2023

Or this... https://www.mirror.c...dviser-32805012

Or even this... https://www.thelondo...n-reach-374711/

And certainly not this... https://news.sky.com...-finds-13135489

But hey, Rishi Sunak insists everyone will be safer if they give him another five years to put right what's happened over the last, erm, fourteen...

“Hey everyone look at this” that’s the point though to which our friend SandD alluded to, one which I’ve also mentioned before, hardly anyone is “looking at this”. The personal section is dying a death due to the increasing left wing political activism, I think Frears ghost astutely made that point first a while ago in the thread regarding renewing the board in a new guise, and one I agree with, hence my decision not to donate. It’s quite simply being spoilt, it’s no longer a forum for debate but a platform for pontificating, finger pointing, high horse riding, virtue signalling and ignoring issues with the usual “bigot, racist, ‘phobic” rhetoric.
I’m more than happy to take an ever more back seat watching continual left wing rhetoric be posted with fewer and fewer numbers being bothered to reply. With the occasional one line “sneer/smear” from the usual suspects.
It’s actually quite amusing seeing paragraph after paragraph posted knowing nobody is really taking a blind bit of notice.

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Posted 15 May 2024 - 10:05 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 15 May 2024 - 08:59 PM, said:

“Hey everyone look at this” that’s the point though to which our friend SandD alluded to, one which I’ve also mentioned before, hardly anyone is “looking at this”. The personal section is dying a death due to the increasing left wing political activism, I think Frears ghost astutely made that point first a while ago in the thread regarding renewing the board in a new guise, and one I agree with, hence my decision not to donate. It’s quite simply being spoilt, it’s no longer a forum for debate but a platform for pontificating, finger pointing, high horse riding, virtue signalling and ignoring issues with the usual “bigot, racist, ‘phobic” rhetoric.
I’m more than happy to take an ever more back seat watching continual left wing rhetoric be posted with fewer and fewer numbers being bothered to reply. With the occasional one line “sneer/smear” from the usual suspects.
It’s actually quite amusing seeing paragraph after paragraph posted knowing nobody is really taking a blind bit of notice.


Are you freaking serious??
You’ve spent 5 years ranting about how great the Tory gov are

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Posted 15 May 2024 - 10:13 PM

View Postcalvin plummers socks, on 15 May 2024 - 10:05 PM, said:

Are you freaking serious??
You’ve spent 5 years ranting about how great the Tory gov are

Unreal

“Stfu you grifter, go troll someone else”
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#11516 User is offline   fishini 

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Posted 16 May 2024 - 03:06 AM

 Mr Mercury, on 15 May 2024 - 10:13 PM, said:

“Stfu you grifter, go troll someone else”

Well he's correct, you have. Your love of the blonde buffoon was truly cringe worthy. You are just as bad as anyone else
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Posted 16 May 2024 - 06:37 AM

 The Earl of Chesterfield, on 15 May 2024 - 04:38 PM, said:

Hey everyone - look at this!

https://www.bbc.co.u...litics-69013002

Because, well, we don't want you looking at this... https://news.sky.com...harity-13135769

Or this... https://www.itv.com/...astline-in-2023

Or this... https://www.mirror.c...dviser-32805012

Or even this... https://www.thelondo...n-reach-374711/

And certainly not this... https://news.sky.com...-finds-13135489

But hey, Rishi Sunak insists everyone will be safer if they give him another five years to put right what's happened over the last, erm, fourteen...


I know you like a link Chris so what about this one...

https://www.msn.com/...oor/ar-BB1msfem


My thoughts? It's within the rules... but that doesn't necessarily make it right!

If the boot was on the other foot (or the other party) I am sure it would already have been posted.

Ps I love the "couldn't sell as in negative equity" whilst sitting on another house in London in positive equity...wonder what he would have done had he lost his seat?
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Posted 16 May 2024 - 06:49 AM

https://amp.theguard...s-civil-service


Absolutely agree with Esther, is the Civil Service not a University Campus
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Posted 16 May 2024 - 06:55 AM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 16 May 2024 - 06:49 AM, said:

https://amp.theguard...s-civil-service


Absolutely agree with Esther, is the Civil Service not a University Campus


I would have thought there were more important things to concentrate on than the colour of a lanyard...

Like this:

In the Budget, he announced that productivity in public services is 5.9% below pre-pandemic levels. It’s actually even worse than he says. According to the ONS, public sector productivity is lower than it was in 1997. This means that we are having to spend considerably more money than we did in 1997 to get the same results.

Good job its funded by the taxpayer as they'd be bust otherwise. Didnt someone on here say we should nationalise stuff as it would make it more efficient.... Hmmmm...
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Posted 16 May 2024 - 07:04 AM

View Postfishini, on 16 May 2024 - 03:06 AM, said:

Well he's correct, you have. Your love of the blonde buffoon was truly cringe worthy. You are just as bad as anyone else

Don’t dispute that.
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