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#2781 User is online   s42blue 

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Posted 25 April 2024 - 10:34 PM

 Mr Mercury, on 25 April 2024 - 10:03 PM, said:

The country has no confidence in them..it’s time for a change, that’s why they’ll get in, it’s going to become an utter shambles. Thankfully I won’t have voted for them. I’ve more regrets voting for that anti semite party under Corbyn prior to voting for Boris in 2019, something I’ve no regrets for at all!


😂 I was with you to “shambles” but BJ is a lying, self-serving, corrupt narcissist…IMO of course.
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#2782 User is offline   Mr Mercury 

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Posted 25 April 2024 - 10:38 PM

View Posts42blue, on 25 April 2024 - 10:34 PM, said:

😂 I was with you to “shambles” but BJ is a lying, self-serving, corrupt narcissist…IMO of course.

I’d wager he still has more integrity than Starmer though! Certainly more than warmonger Blair!
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Posted Yesterday, 07:02 AM

 Mr Mercury, on 25 April 2024 - 10:38 PM, said:

I’d wager he still has more integrity than Starmer though!

Well in one sentence you've made yourself a laughing stock.
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#2784 User is offline   Mr Mercury 

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Posted Yesterday, 07:04 AM

View Postfishini, on 26 April 2024 - 07:02 AM, said:

Well in one sentence you've made yourself a laughing stock.

Not the first time and I doubt it’ll be the last.
But no big deal.
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#2785 User is offline   Bobby Darling 

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Posted Yesterday, 10:15 PM

View Postisleaiw1, on 16 April 2024 - 07:57 PM, said:

Bizarrely the tax matter isnt the real issue being investigated, its whether she lied on the electoral register.

I'll be very surprised if she didnt make an innocent mistake (yeah, righT) over her CGT and decided that they could avoid paying as they had two houses when they got married...

No it’s not. The police aren’t investigating the electoral register. They understand the law on what constitutes a criminal offence in providing false information for the electoral register and the time in which any transgression can be a criminal offence. Raynor might be embarrassed but she cannot be prosecuted with regards to the electoral register. If you like to be considered objective, which on any issue pertaining to the Labour Party you aren’t, at least get your ducks in a row.
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Posted Today, 08:15 AM

View PostBobby Darling, on 26 April 2024 - 10:15 PM, said:

No it’s not. The police aren’t investigating the electoral register. They understand the law on what constitutes a criminal offence in providing false information for the electoral register and the time in which any transgression can be a criminal offence. Raynor might be embarrassed but she cannot be prosecuted with regards to the electoral register. If you like to be considered objective, which on any issue pertaining to the Labour Party you aren’t, at least get your ducks in a row.

Can I have a go?
I think the issue is simply whether she's lied about receiving expert advice, a bit like Boris would. Expert advice on CGT isn't ambiguous, so she's either followed it or not. If she did then surely she can sue the lawyer?
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Posted Today, 09:06 AM

View PostBobby Darling, on 26 April 2024 - 10:15 PM, said:

No it’s not. The police aren’t investigating the electoral register. They understand the law on what constitutes a criminal offence in providing false information for the electoral register and the time in which any transgression can be a criminal offence. Raynor might be embarrassed but she cannot be prosecuted with regards to the electoral register. If you like to be considered objective, which on any issue pertaining to the Labour Party you aren’t, at least get your ducks in a row.


So I think what you are trying to say is, if it is a criminal offence (it is) then it will be time barred due to amount of time since she did it? In which case whet have the police not said they are not investigating it because even if guilty it is now time barred?

Highly objective on this one - especially if she has been underpaying tax (CGT or council) as a result of her declarations.
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Posted Today, 09:09 AM

View Postdim view, on 27 April 2024 - 08:15 AM, said:

Can I have a go?
I think the issue is simply whether she's lied about receiving expert advice, a bit like Boris would. Expert advice on CGT isn't ambiguous, so she's either followed it or not. If she did then surely she can sue the lawyer?


I saw something yesterday that suggested that even if it wasnt her PPR she wouldnt have had tax to pay as she improved the home and that can be set against any gain.If that is the case, then why has she been arguing its her PPR and she lived there (which is irrelevant anyway if married and not in process of separation).
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Posted Today, 10:54 AM

 isleaiw1, on 27 April 2024 - 09:09 AM, said:

I saw something yesterday that suggested that even if it wasnt her PPR she wouldnt have had tax to pay as she improved the home and that can be set against any gain.If that is the case, then why has she been arguing its her PPR and she lived there (which is irrelevant anyway if married and not in process of separation).

Shame you were not as forensic when the blonde buffoon was under the spotlight. I wonder why that wasn't the case
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Posted Today, 11:38 AM

View Postfishini, on 27 April 2024 - 10:54 AM, said:

Shame you were not as forensic when the blonde buffoon was under the spotlight. I wonder why that wasn't the case


You dont know what I was saying elsewhere, nothing needed to be added on here. My views on the blond buffoon, sacked from every job he held except London mayor and after the water cannon fiasco, it was clear you couldnt be sacked from that. How he could be brought back to the cabinet after being chucked out for lying (about his private life) is beyond me, although I'd have sacked him for his comments on Hillsborough and Liverpudlians...

So, for me, his political career should about have been over in 2004. That clear enough?
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Posted Today, 12:10 PM

 isleaiw1, on 27 April 2024 - 11:38 AM, said:

You dont know what I was saying elsewhere, nothing needed to be added on here. My views on the blond buffoon, sacked from every job he held except London mayor and after the water cannon fiasco, it was clear you couldnt be sacked from that. How he could be brought back to the cabinet after being chucked out for lying (about his private life) is beyond me, although I'd have sacked him for his comments on Hillsborough and Liverpudlians...

So, for me, his political career should about have been over in 2004. That clear enough?

Criticising the Tories or maybe just one of them has to be a first
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Posted Today, 12:33 PM

View Postfishini, on 27 April 2024 - 12:10 PM, said:

Criticising the Tories or maybe just one of them has to be a first


No, criticising the Tories is the norm, you dont know what I say elsewhere. Its just not needed on here!
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Posted Today, 02:22 PM

 isleaiw1, on 27 April 2024 - 12:33 PM, said:

No, criticising the Tories is the norm, you dont know what I say elsewhere. Its just not needed on here!

However you have no problem criticising Labour on here though. I only have your word concerning the Tories away from here. Mmm 🤔
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Posted Today, 02:41 PM

View Postfishini, on 27 April 2024 - 02:22 PM, said:

However you have no problem criticising Labour on here though. I only have your word concerning the Tories away from here. Mmm 🤔


Trust me, I'm an accountant ;)

You do, to be honest I dont care if you believe me, I know the truth and that is all that matters. Suffice to say my work colleagues think I am a raving northern socialist!
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Posted Today, 03:17 PM

 isleaiw1, on 27 April 2024 - 02:41 PM, said:

Trust me, I'm an accountant ;)

You do, to be honest I dont care if you believe me, I know the truth and that is all that matters. Suffice to say my work colleagues think I am a raving northern socialist!

The truth is you are always criticising Labour. A party not even in power. Like the southerners who thought all miners had a whippet and kept pigeons

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Posted Today, 03:56 PM

 fishini, on 27 April 2024 - 03:17 PM, said:

The truth is you are always criticising Labour. A party not even in power. Like the southerners who thought all miners had a whippet and kept pigeons


I don’t think criticism is necessarily a bad thing?
Let’s face it - anyone is gonna be better than the corrupt Tories but any other party can’t be complacent etc.
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Posted Today, 09:49 PM

View Postdim view, on 27 April 2024 - 08:15 AM, said:

Can I have a go?
I think the issue is simply whether she's lied about receiving expert advice, a bit like Boris would. Expert advice on CGT isn't ambiguous, so she's either followed it or not. If she did then surely she can sue the lawyer?

Not my point. She cannot be prosecuted for the electoral register. No idea about tax.
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Posted Today, 10:07 PM

View Postisleaiw1, on 27 April 2024 - 09:06 AM, said:

So I think what you are trying to say is, if it is a criminal offence (it is) then it will be time barred due to amount of time since she did it? In which case whet have the police not said they are not investigating it because even if guilty it is now time barred?

Highly objective on this one - especially if she has been underpaying tax (CGT or council) as a result of her declarations.

It is time barred so the police are not investigating it. That is obvious to anyone to be frank as there have been several publicised Tory newspaper accusations in the last year about Labour MPs. You think she is guilty cos you are anti Labour and suck up “She said to a neighbour I’m the Landlord”. Why you fear Reds under the Beds who tip up to a property that they are fiddling tax on and openly admit to someone who they have lived next to, that they are the “landlord” ,makes me smile. They are all thick surely. Except she didn’t, did she? CGT? Read your post that I responded to.
I couldn’t care about your political views, cos as you know I consider you to know little about politics, but I do get miffed about your claims to be objective. You’re not. I think you were probably bullied by a Skinner or your dad was a Scab. In truth I don’t know but don’t play the uncommitted. And stop jumping when you’re found out. Who started this thread?
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