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Obviously we are going to lose some games. The key is how many? Looking at league champions in any division over the years the maximum seems to be about 8, so if we have lost 5 or more by Christmas I’d be concerned. Obviously there are exceptions and Man City in recent years and Wrexham and County last year only lost 3/4, but this is unlikely to be repeated. It’d be nice if we could only lose 3/4 but I’d settle for 8. If you are going to challenge for any sort of promotion you can’t lose more than 10-12.
Of course it’s not just about not losing, too may draws will do for you too -
and it’s better to win 3 and lose 3 than to draw 6.
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 02:02 PM
Biggest problem for me has been the home form since dropping into this league, we drop too many points to sides we should be beating (and that’s not being arrogant by the way)
We dropped 22 points to sides below us in the league last campaign, that’s a hell of a lot of points. Converting just half of that total into points gained would have got us 96 points, and in a normal season taken the title.
We need to be realistically having a Notts County/Wrexham home record next campaign IMO.
We dropped 22 points to sides below us in the league last campaign, that’s a hell of a lot of points. Converting just half of that total into points gained would have got us 96 points, and in a normal season taken the title.
We need to be realistically having a Notts County/Wrexham home record next campaign IMO.
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 02:20 PM
Zigsuk, on 27 July 2023 - 01:53 PM, said:
Obviously we are going to lose some games. The key is how many? Looking at league champions in any division over the years the maximum seems to be about 8, so if we have lost 5 or more by Christmas I’d be concerned. Obviously there are exceptions and Man City in recent years and Wrexham and County last year only lost 3/4, but this is unlikely to be repeated. It’d be nice if we could only lose 3/4 but I’d settle for 8. If you are going to challenge for any sort of promotion you can’t lose more than 10-12.
Of course it’s not just about not losing, too may draws will do for you too -
and it’s better to win 3 and lose 3 than to draw 6.
Of course it’s not just about not losing, too may draws will do for you too -
and it’s better to win 3 and lose 3 than to draw 6.
Let’s just take it one game at a time and let the others worry about losing.
How many points from our August fixtures - I’m looking at a maximum.
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 03:10 PM
gordon_brittas, on 27 July 2023 - 02:02 PM, said:
Biggest problem for me has been the home form since dropping into this league, we drop too many points to sides we should be beating (and that’s not being arrogant by the way)
We dropped 22 points to sides below us in the league last campaign, that’s a hell of a lot of points.
We dropped 22 points to sides below us in the league last campaign, that’s a hell of a lot of points.
There was only two teams finished above us though so your theory is gonna always lay heavy on the negative side with this one.
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 06:13 PM
There’s no magic number, we just need to finish on the highest amount of points we can do.
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 06:34 PM
Win all of the first 10 games and we will be well on our way
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 06:51 PM
We need to counter teams who come here and park the bus with 6 or 7 in defence then hit us on the break. We seemed to struggle with that last season, but it needs addressing this time round.
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 06:58 PM
This team will lose quite a few this season because we have shown in pre-season that we will still conceded some soft goals and I don't think Grigg or the other 3 will be able to score more than the opposition again. I think this will be a season when the winners will have a low points return.
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 07:39 PM
Lincs Spireite, on 27 July 2023 - 06:51 PM, said:
We need to counter teams who come here and park the bus with 6 or 7 in defence then hit us on the break. We seemed to struggle with that last season, but it needs addressing this time round.
Maidenhead and Dagenham did it 2 consecutive home games, they mustered less than 6 shots between them but still scored 5 goals and 3 points apiece. That Maidenhead game we just never looked like scoring.
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 07:54 PM
Dougspireite78, on 27 July 2023 - 06:58 PM, said:
This team will lose quite a few this season because we have shown in pre-season that we will still conceded some soft goals and I don't think Grigg or the other 3 will be able to score more than the opposition again. I think this will be a season when the winners will have a low points return.
We playing NL teams though
God I hate this league.
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 08:11 PM
Doesn’t matter so long as we are one point in front of second place
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 08:30 PM
DIFH, on 27 July 2023 - 07:54 PM, said:
We playing NL teams though
Really?
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 08:32 PM
What a bizarre thread before a ball has been kicked...as long as we get 1 more point than all the other teams I couldn't care less!
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 08:33 PM
Dougspireite78, on 27 July 2023 - 06:58 PM, said:
This team will lose quite a few this season because we have shown in pre-season that we will still conceded some soft goals and I don't think Grigg or the other 3 will be able to score more than the opposition again. I think this will be a season when the winners will have a low points return.
That's the spirit.
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 08:39 PM
Dougspireite78, on 27 July 2023 - 06:58 PM, said:
This team will lose quite a few this season because we have shown in pre-season that we will still conceded some soft goals and I don't think Grigg or the other 3 will be able to score more than the opposition again. I think this will be a season when the winners will have a low points return.
All that said, do you think we have a good chance of being the winners?
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 09:22 PM
Zigsuk, on 27 July 2023 - 01:53 PM, said:
Obviously we are going to lose some games. The key is how many? Looking at league champions in any division over the years the maximum seems to be about 8, so if we have lost 5 or more by Christmas I’d be concerned. Obviously there are exceptions and Man City in recent years and Wrexham and County last year only lost 3/4, but this is unlikely to be repeated. It’d be nice if we could only lose 3/4 but I’d settle for 8. If you are going to challenge for any sort of promotion you can’t lose more than 10-12.
Of course it’s not just about not losing, too may draws will do for you too -
and it’s better to win 3 and lose 3 than to draw 6.
Of course it’s not just about not losing, too may draws will do for you too -
and it’s better to win 3 and lose 3 than to draw 6.
I think over the season we will be the most consistent team as we have a very good squad that just needs a centre back and a centre forward to be dominant.
The other teams are all much of a muchness and will be taking points off each other all the time.
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 09:49 PM
The league is there for the taking. I honestly believe there are some dark horses and a few teams could win it . If we only lose 6 theni think we will win it
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Posted 27 July 2023 - 10:02 PM
martatcross, on 27 July 2023 - 09:49 PM, said:
The league is there for the taking. I honestly believe there are some dark horses and a few teams could win it . If we only lose 6 theni think we will win it
Who are the dark horses?. I can’t see any. A few have spent money so expected to do well and therefore not in the dark horse category
