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#1421 User is offline   The Earl of Chesterfield 

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Posted 06 June 2024 - 04:37 PM

https://www.bbc.co.u...es/crggq0jygq6o

But hey, 1:1...
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Posted Yesterday, 11:03 AM

 Misnomer, on 06 June 2024 - 07:34 AM, said:

The UN put out the revised death figures. Simple maths tells you it's a 1:1 ratio.


The number of total dead is not 'revised', the different number is purely just the number of identified dead. They know there are thousands more who's remains haven't been identified yet - as mentioned in Goku's link
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Posted Yesterday, 05:51 PM

 turrhall, on 09 June 2024 - 11:03 AM, said:

The number of total dead is not 'revised', the different number is purely just the number of identified dead. They know there are thousands more who's remains haven't been identified yet - as mentioned in Goku's link


Eh? So, the 'different number' isn't revised, it's just a different number? Blimey, you should be in politics, pal. Did you do the COVID data for the BBC?

Yeah, Goku's link, 25 pages into Google 👍🏿

For starters, all figures are supplied by Hamas, and not based on independent data. However, the new figures offer a breakdown of fatalities, for whom full details have been documented.

The new figures reported by the UN OCHA, reduce by more than half the number of women and children that it previously said had been killed.

Apparently, Hamas don't supply death figures for combatants....but, from data supplied by Hamas to the UN, 'identified' registered deaths stood at: women (4.959) and children (7,797), or 52% of all deaths, from a revised total of 24'000 identified deaths. A 52% and 53% respective reduction for women and children, from the original figure of 34'000 total deaths, supplied by Hamas media sources. Meaning, approximately 11'000 of the dead are men; twice the amount of the women.

I mean, if you want to and, earring on the side of caution; you could conclude that a fair whack of those 11'000 men are likely to be Hamas terrorist combatants. Indeed, the IDF have suggested they've killed around 16'000 Hamas terrorists.... either that, or they are not the almighty army everyone is making them out to be. And that's where 1:1 ratio is concluded. You could also argue that the revised figures published by UN OCHA, only lead us to conclude that their previously published figures were unreliable at best, and false being the most likely outcome. That's what I've done. But, then again, I'm not an antisemitic 🇮🇱🇬🇧

From the UN regarding Hamas supplied data:

?United Nations teams in Gaza are unable to independently verify these figures, given the prevailing situation on the ground and the sheer number of fatalities. For this reason, all figures used by the UN clearly cite the Ministry of Health in Gaza as the source. The UN will verify these figures to the extent possible when conditions permit.?

What I find most disturbing is, people who are more than happy to identify with and support figures supplied by an appalling terrorist regime, that are not independently verified....just weird, very weird.

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Posted Yesterday, 06:20 PM

(The link was literally the first result on Google for me, incredibly rare I?ll go to even the 2nd page)
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Posted Yesterday, 06:42 PM

 Misnomer, on 09 June 2024 - 05:51 PM, said:

Eh? So, the 'different number' isn't revised, it's just a different number? Blimey, you should be in politics, pal. Did you do the COVID data for the BBC?

Yeah, Goku's link, 25 pages into Google 👍🏿

For starters, all figures are supplied by Hamas, and not based on independent data. However, the new figures offer a breakdown of fatalities, for whom full details have been documented.

The new figures reported by the UN OCHA, reduce by more than half the number of women and children that it previously said had been killed.

Apparently, Hamas don't supply death figures for combatants....but, from data supplied by Hamas to the UN, 'identified' registered deaths stood at: women (4.959) and children (7,797), or 52% of all deaths, from a revised total of 24'000 identified deaths. A 52% and 53% respective reduction for women and children, from the original figure of 34'000 total deaths, supplied by Hamas media sources. Meaning, approximately 11'000 of the dead are men; twice the amount of the women.

I mean, if you want to and, earring on the side of caution; you could conclude that a fair whack of those 11'000 men are likely to be Hamas terrorist combatants. Indeed, the IDF have suggested they've killed around 16'000 Hamas terrorists.... either that, or they are not the almighty army everyone is making them out to be. And that's where 1:1 ratio is concluded. You could also argue that the revised figures published by UN OCHA, only lead us to conclude that their previously published figures were unreliable at best, and false being the most likely outcome. That's what I've done. But, then again, I'm not an antisemitic 🇮🇱🇬🇧

From the UN regarding Hamas supplied data:

?United Nations teams in Gaza are unable to independently verify these figures, given the prevailing situation on the ground and the sheer number of fatalities. For this reason, all figures used by the UN clearly cite the Ministry of Health in Gaza as the source. The UN will verify these figures to the extent possible when conditions permit.?

What I find most disturbing is, people who are more than happy to identify with and support figures supplied by an appalling terrorist regime, that are not independently verified....just weird, very weird.


The 'revised' number is identified dead. Not total casualties. It's not a difficult concept.

Funny that you're willing to accept Israel's numbers are being correct, but not Hamas' - by your logic neither are 'independent'.

Even if Israel's numbers were correct, is 30k dead Palestians acceptable?

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Posted Yesterday, 07:26 PM

Gantz quits calling for new elections.

Is Netanyahu's regime about to unravel....?
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Posted Yesterday, 09:38 PM

 turrhall, on 09 June 2024 - 06:42 PM, said:

The 'revised' number is identified dead. Not total casualties. It's not a difficult concept.

Funny that you're willing to accept Israel's numbers are being correct, but not Hamas' - by your logic neither are 'independent'.

Even if Israel's numbers were correct, is 30k dead Palestians acceptable?


Oh, now we're onto casualties? Why didn't you say? Post the link, will you, chap.....

Yeah, I'm willing to accept both the UN and Israel's numbers over Hamas...do you know why? Cos one is the only democratic nation in that region, that supports gay rights and the advancement of women; the other is an utter scumbag terrorist regime, that has no democracy, kills it's own people, slaughters gays, and doesn't allow women to work 👍🏿

Israel's numbers are 14k civilians, 16k Hamas combatants. So, yeah, it's acceptable; cos it's the lowest number ever recorded in war, ever.

Amazing, after the stuff I've seen you write on here, you've chosen to side with Hamas. Yet, another hypocrite to add to the ever growing list...🏳️‍🌈

Ps I can't remember you saying anything about China having been accused of committing crimes against humanity and possibly genocide, against the Uyghur population and other mostly-Muslim ethnic groups in the north-western region of Xinjiang. Why not? We are talking staggering figures, a million plus.

Didn't see any of your left wing ilk writing a single thing on here about it on here. Where's the international court, so many of you are licking their lips over? Oh yes, fkin nowhere...like you, Snell, Josh, Johnny hamster....but, when it's the Jews, amazingly, up you all pop....weird.
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