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#181 User is offline   Wooden Spoon 

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Posted 15 October 2021 - 06:53 PM

View Postcalvin plummers socks, on 15 October 2021 - 05:58 PM, said:

Owt (whatever that means) to belittle the religion….

I don’t defend murderers whatever their background anymore than you’d defend Wayne Couzens so have a word with yourself

When you look at the actions of Islamic extremists around the world the religion does need to be brought under the spotlight
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#182 User is offline   Misnomer 

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Posted 15 October 2021 - 08:42 PM

View Postcalvin plummers socks, on 15 October 2021 - 05:58 PM, said:

Owt (whatever that means) to belittle the religion….

I don’t defend murderers whatever their background anymore than you’d defend Wayne Couzens so have a word with yourself


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#183 User is offline   Sammy Spireite 

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Posted 22 February 2023 - 10:27 AM

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Posted 22 February 2023 - 02:38 PM

View PostSammy Spireite, on 22 February 2023 - 10:27 AM, said:

Appeal rejected

What I can't understand is why she has been treated like this when 100s of British men have gone to fight with Isis but have not have had thier citizenship revoked and allowed back here
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Posted 22 February 2023 - 02:47 PM

View Postfishini, on 22 February 2023 - 02:38 PM, said:

What I can't understand is why she has been treated like this when 100s of British men have gone to fight with Isis but have not have had thier citizenship revoked and allowed back here

Name just 20 out of the hundreds you say there is.
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Posted 22 February 2023 - 03:30 PM

View PostQuaker, on 22 February 2023 - 02:47 PM, said:

Name just 20 out of the hundreds you say there is.

Names are irrelevant. Figures state that of the British who went to fight with Isis 20% have died, 40% have returned and 40% unaccounted for. They should all have thier citizenship revoked. I just wondered why she's treated differently
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Posted 22 February 2023 - 03:32 PM

View PostQuaker, on 22 February 2023 - 02:47 PM, said:

Name just 20 out of the hundreds you say there is.


research by the soufan centre said 425 have returned. article here:

https://www.bing.com...TEuaHRtbA&ntb=1
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Posted 22 February 2023 - 05:10 PM

View Postmr. smith, on 22 February 2023 - 03:32 PM, said:

research by the soufan centre said 425 have returned. article here:

https://www.bing.com...TEuaHRtbA&ntb=1

Interesting article, albeit 6 years old.

It would be interesting to see how its all panned out since then.
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Posted 22 February 2023 - 06:33 PM

View PostQuaker, on 22 February 2023 - 05:10 PM, said:

Interesting article, albeit 6 years old.

It would be interesting to see how its all panned out since then.

Begum joined Isis 8 years ago
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Posted 22 February 2023 - 10:03 PM

Due to classified information the media only hears Begums side..Sky News report.

https://news.sky.com...sified-12817327
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Posted 22 February 2023 - 11:07 PM

Without delving into the psychological or political debate.... She is/was an Islamic terrorist!

Unless she can play centre forward for us as far I am concerned we all have better things to argue about as far as I can see...

This post has been edited by Middle East: 22 February 2023 - 11:09 PM

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Posted 02 March 2023 - 02:06 PM

View PostMisnomer, on 15 October 2021 - 08:04 AM, said:

I'll tell you what's medieval, when you (a man) commit a crime, you get found guilty, but the way you avoid family shame is to agree for your wife or sister to be gang raped. That's a legitimate punishment in Pakistan.



Honour killing in the news last night, some lass didn’t want a forced marriage so killed by being stabbed in the chest with a metal spike by her uncle and dumped on Bradford industrial site
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#193 User is offline   Search & Destroy 

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Posted 02 March 2023 - 02:09 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 16 September 2021 - 06:34 PM, said:

Well, re-read my post three times and at no point did I advocate the right wing tw*t going down.

Merely suggested there'd be an entirely different reaction from the usual suspects if a Muslim had done exactly the same thing.

What were you saying about misinformation?

And I'm virtually certain I've said nowt about taxpayers supporting Begum for the rest of her life, either.

You really oughtta stop putting stuff into my posts that simply in't there.

What I have said though, repeatedly and consistently, is Begum, like the equally stupid white lad, should face a judge. A British court. With facts and figures presented by qualified lawyers. A jury to decide what crimes she's committed. Then if found guilty an appropriate sentence.

The same justice as all those who side with terrorists should face.

Is that too much to ask? A fair trial? Isn't such civilised behaviour what separates us from those who'd drag society back two thousand years?

Rather than a bloke unilaterally deciding guilt based on unpublished evidence behind closed doors. As Javid did 'cos it'd pander to the bigots in his party and support base.

Tell you what, mind; be interesting to see what'd happen if the wig overseeing her case told Begum to go away and read Dickens, too...





Manchester Bombing back in the news today, what’s your thoughts on Salman Abedi? Innocent and groomed as a youngster?
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Posted 02 March 2023 - 03:25 PM

View PostJoe Quigley is dynamite, on 02 March 2023 - 02:09 PM, said:

Manchester Bombing back in the news today, what’s your thoughts on Salman Abedi? Innocent and groomed as a youngster?


his former head teacher has said he was groomed & tutored by amongst others his father.
a deadbeat stoner pupil doesn't become a suicide bomber without help/coertion/influences
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Posted 03 March 2023 - 08:49 AM

https://www.dailymai...th-threats.html
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Posted 05 March 2023 - 09:28 AM

View PostJoe Quigley is dynamite, on 03 March 2023 - 08:49 AM, said:


Just read the full story, incredible.
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Posted 23 February 2024 - 04:45 PM

Well nearly a year since this topic was commented on Begum once again loses her latest appeal at being allowed back into the country with the appeal judge being quite adamant that the original decision is both safe and correct and the government does have a right to uphold national security. Also a cpl of legal sorts on SN also said they couldn’t see where her legal team could could ever change the decision and that the only way they could see her allowed back into the UK would be by government involvement and a major reversal of current policy. Now being as she won’t be allowed to return during this political term it will be interesting to see if this thread reappears again under a probable Labour government and if any decisions are different.
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Posted 25 February 2024 - 07:23 AM

They’ll probably have a vote on it in Parliament when Labour are in power

And MPs wil likely be threatened with violence unless they vote in Begums favour

Sound familiar?
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Posted 25 February 2024 - 10:32 AM

I’d have 1000 Begums over Anderson and Truss anytime
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Posted 25 February 2024 - 12:32 PM

 calvin plummers socks, on 25 February 2024 - 10:32 AM, said:

I’d have 1000 Begums over Anderson and Truss anytime

Well being as she wasn’t “fazed” by seeing victims bodies of terrorist beheadings I’m not sure I’d agree.
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