[calvin plummers socks]

Even in a rant about Israel he randomly obsesses about womens changing rooms like some massive weirdo

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Misnomer, on 02 April 2024 - 11:27 AM, said:

Every time...far right; gammon, yawn, blah.. you're turning into a carbon copy of your mentor.
I thought you'd maintain a tiny bit of independence but, nah.

You won't allow me to draw comparisons between the allied bombing of Germany and then the ethnic cleansing by Russians? Both done in retaliation to what Germany did to us and Russia? I'm far right for doing that?... and you reckon I've gone off the far-right deep end; yet, you and your mentor hold the extreme view that it's perfectly fine for a bloke, who identifies as a woman, to reveal his meat and veg to young girls in female changing rooms? Ok...

Anyway, I digress.

When thousands of people, women and children, are celebrating the attacks, rapes, torture and killings of innocent Israelis, pulling at dead bodies being paraded through Gazza, ripping apart corpses and clamouring to get at hostages; I tend to wonder, at which point people lost sight of why Israeli forces entered Gazza. Hamas started a war; they're paying the price for that. Likewise, Germany in WW2. Or would you have opposed the allied bombing of Germany? I guess you would have.

If Hamas started a war and committed such heinous war crimes against my people, I'd want them destroyed.

First, welcome back from your latest ban.

Second - and possibly to avoid yet another - could you point out any examples of anyone on here saying "it's perfectly fine for a bloke, who identifies as a woman, to reveal his meat and two veg to young girls"?

Unless he's been shopping for their tea, of course...

[Goku]

calvin plummers socks, on 02 April 2024 - 11:34 AM, said:

Even in a rant about Israel he randomly obsesses about womens changing rooms like some massive weirdo

yeah nothing i want more in life than to see blokes whipping their genitals out in front of kids, i've campaigned heavily for this and really want to see it come to fruition.

totally normal response to a post in a thread about genocidal israel

This post has been edited by Goku: 02 April 2024 - 11:45 AM

[Misnomer]

calvin plummers socks, on 02 April 2024 - 11:34 AM, said:

Even in a rant about Israel he randomly obsesses about womens changing rooms like some massive weirdo

Thing is, I expect way better from Josh, than I do from the likes of you, Snell and Johnny bellend... using your hurty words to try and shut down adult debate and disrespect someone else's opinion. I have a lot if respect for him, for various reasons. However, he seems to be disappearing down the far left rabbit hole.


You, on the other hand; you haven't got a single clue how to debate. Look at you, attempting to ridicule the issue of young girls being exposed to men in dresses, popping out their meat and two veg in female changing rooms. Yet, bizarrely, you're the first one to call someone a nonce, like Prince Andrew. See what I mean? You can't see your own stupidity.

Talk to me about Egypt's stance on Gazza? Be a grown up, drop the hurty words and talk to me about why Egypt have added to defences that were already far greater than Israel's. Talk to me about this so-called aphartied. Talk to me about what happened last time Egypt let in Palestinians....

[Misnomer]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 02 April 2024 - 11:44 AM, said:

First, welcome back from your latest ban.

Second - and possibly to avoid yet another - could you point out any examples of anyone on here saying "it's perfectly fine for a bloke, who identifies as a woman, to reveal his meat and two veg to young girls"?

Unless he's been shopping for their tea, of course...

What have I told you about your attempt at humour?

You've literally sidestepped the meat and veg of the main discussion. See what I did there....

[Goku]

Misnomer, on 02 April 2024 - 11:27 AM, said:

Every time...far right; gammon, yawn, blah.. you're turning into a carbon copy of your mentor.
I thought you'd maintain a tiny bit of independence but, nah.

You won't allow me to draw comparisons between the allied bombing of Germany and then the ethnic cleansing by Russians? Both done in retaliation to what Germany did to us and Russia? I'm far right for doing that?... and you reckon I've gone off the far-right deep end; yet, you and your mentor hold the extreme view that it's perfectly fine for a bloke, who identifies as a woman, to reveal his meat and veg to young girls in female changing rooms? Ok...

Anyway, I digress.

When thousands of people, women and children, are celebrating the attacks, rapes, torture and killings of innocent Israelis, pulling at dead bodies being paraded through Gazza, ripping apart corpses and clamouring to get at hostages; I tend to wonder, at which point people lost sight of why Israeli forces entered Gazza. Hamas started a war; they're paying the price for that. Likewise, Germany in WW2. Or would you have opposed the allied bombing of Germany? I guess you would have.

If Hamas started a war and committed such heinous war crimes against my people, I'd want them destroyed.

Ok I'll drop mentions of right-wingery and discuss the point at hand. You are of course correct, many people celebrated the disgusting acts of terrorism committed by Hamas, all vile to a man. This obviously does not justify the slaughter of >30k people and the destruction of almost the entirity of a strip of land. Hamas, a terrorist organisation who haven't been democratically elected since 2006, committed the act, not the innocent individuals living there. Half the Palestinian population hadn't been born at the time of the last election, but they're being obliterated because a terrorist organisation committed a terrorist act. I don't see how comparing Hamas with the Nazis is comparing apples with apples?

If a terrorist organisation started a war and committed heinous crimes against my people, I'd want the terrorist organisation destroyed. The retaliation is clearly disproportionate. The innocent victims in this have nowhere to run. They did not elect Hamas, but they are the ones who suffer. War crimes are being committed daily; why are you, a clearly intelligent man, trying to justify this?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Misnomer, on 02 April 2024 - 11:56 AM, said:

What have I told you about your attempt at humour?

You've literally sidestepped the meat and veg of the main discussion. See what I did there....

One example.

Just the one.

Of someone on here, anyone, being guilty of this latest smear.

Is it really too much to ask?

Then we might discuss why you're so desperate to crowbar mentions of noncery into a rant about Gaza.

After all the occasions you've sought to somehow equate being LGBTQ with sex crimes, too.

Seriously - were you once, y'know, interfered with? Is there some immense inner conflict happening here?

Either way, and to show I'm only trying to help, here's a date for your diary: https://www.derbyshi...t-sales-4249896

Enjoy...

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 02 April 2024 - 11:52 AM, said:

Thing is, I expect way better from Josh, than I do from the likes of you, Snell and Johnny bellend... using your hurty words to try and shut down adult debate and disrespect someone else's opinion. I have a lot if respect for him, for various reasons. However, he seems to be disappearing down the far left rabbit hole.


You, on the other hand; you haven't got a single clue how to debate. Look at you, attempting to ridicule the issue of young girls being exposed to men in dresses, popping out their meat and two veg in female changing rooms. Yet, bizarrely, you're the first one to call someone a nonce, like Prince Andrew. See what I mean? You can't see your own stupidity.

Talk to me about Egypt's stance on Gazza? Be a grown up, drop the hurty words and talk to me about why Egypt have added to defences that were already far greater than Israel's. Talk to me about this so-called aphartied. Talk to me about what happened last time Egypt let in Palestinians....

Blah blah blah blah women’s changing rooms blah blah blah blah (etc)

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 02 April 2024 - 11:52 AM, said:

Talk to me about Egypt's stance on Gazza?

They probably hate Mark Wright more than Gazza- he didn’t play that well in that game so wouldn’t have registered a great deal to the Egyptians unlike Wright who ultimately broke their hearts….
Ah halcyon days- was it really 34 years ago?!

[Misnomer]

Goku, on 02 April 2024 - 11:59 AM, said:

Ok I'll drop mentions of right-wingery and discuss the point at hand. You are of course correct, many people celebrated the disgusting acts of terrorism committed by Hamas, all vile to a man. This obviously does not justify the slaughter of >30k people and the destruction of almost the entirity of a strip of land. Hamas, a terrorist organisation who haven't been democratically elected since 2006, committed the act, not the innocent individuals living there. Half the Palestinian population hadn't been born at the time of the last election, but they're being obliterated because a terrorist organisation committed a terrorist act. I don't see how comparing Hamas with the Nazis is comparing apples with apples?

If a terrorist organisation started a war and committed heinous crimes against my people, I'd want the terrorist organisation destroyed. The retaliation is clearly disproportionate. The innocent victims in this have nowhere to run. They did not elect Hamas, but they are the ones who suffer. War crimes are being committed daily; why are you, a clearly intelligent man, trying to justify this?

So, by definition, you're implying a terrorist organisation is running a whole country? A country of six million people; 20 thousand odd Hamas? No indoctrination, no complicity? Any decent and willing opposition would turn them over in no time, and they'd get the backing to do so. You saw the elation on the streets of Gazza; it wasn't just a handful of folk, it was tens of thousands.

And then, on a daily basis, thousands of miles away; were seeing physical attacks on Jews and anti-Semitic hate crimes escalating at an unprecedented rate. Why? If this was just the IDF and Netenyahou, I'd understand, but it isn't. This is pure anti-Semitic hatred. The same hatred the Palestinians hold. The same indoctrinated hatred that, unless Hamas and their weapons cache is totally destroyed, will see them rise again to commit even worse atrocities. There is no compromising with these people; they don't want peace, they don't want a solution, they want Israel annihilated - they've openly said it.

When Hamas are firing rockets into Israel, do you not think that's indiscriminate attempted murder, with inevitable collateral damage?

So, with this mind, knowing your people will be again attacked and killed; how do you suggest the conflict is ended?

Obviously, this is me being right-wing.

[Misnomer]

calvin plummers socks, on 02 April 2024 - 12:27 PM, said:

They probably hate Mark Wright more than Gazza- he didn’t play that well in that game so wouldn’t have registered a great deal to the Egyptians unlike Wright who ultimately broke their hearts….
Ah halcyon days- was it really 34 years ago?!

Totally incapable. Stick to calling folk nonces.... you're good at something 👍🏿

[Misnomer]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 02 April 2024 - 11:44 AM, said:

First, welcome back from your latest ban.

Second - and possibly to avoid yet another - could you point out any examples of anyone on here saying "it's perfectly fine for a bloke, who identifies as a woman, to reveal his meat and two veg to young girls"?

Unless he's been shopping for their tea, of course...

Are we really playing Snell semantics?

You have openly said you support trans (including men identifying as women) using female changing rooms.

I'll let you connect the dots 👍🏿🏳️‍🌈

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Goku, on 02 April 2024 - 11:59 AM, said:

Ok I'll drop mentions of right-wingery and discuss the point at hand. You are of course correct, many people celebrated the disgusting acts of terrorism committed by Hamas, all vile to a man. This obviously does not justify the slaughter of >30k people and the destruction of almost the entirity of a strip of land. Hamas, a terrorist organisation who haven't been democratically elected since 2006, committed the act, not the innocent individuals living there. Half the Palestinian population hadn't been born at the time of the last election, but they're being obliterated because a terrorist organisation committed a terrorist act. I don't see how comparing Hamas with the Nazis is comparing apples with apples?

If a terrorist organisation started a war and committed heinous crimes against my people, I'd want the terrorist organisation destroyed. The retaliation is clearly disproportionate. The innocent victims in this have nowhere to run. They did not elect Hamas, but they are the ones who suffer. War crimes are being committed daily; why are you, a clearly intelligent man, trying to justify this?

The blanket bombing of Germany - as opposed to targets deemed of military importance - was controversial at the time and has since been pretty much discredited.

Indeed many believe it had the effect of hardening rather than destroying public morale.

Furthermore it's beyond absurd to in any way compare WW2 to current events in Gaza. To in any way equate Neyanyahu's knowing targetting of schools, hospitals and aid stations with the Allied campaigns. To in any way suggest the forces at his disposal face a similarly equipped enemy.

To repeat: what Hamas perpetrated on Oct7 was evil. By a terrorist organisation with an equally evil agenda. No one possessing any hint of decency would deny Israel the right to hunt down and bring those responsible to justice. Something their intelligence and military are more than capable of.

However the extreme right wing coalition Netanyahu heads have since pursued vengeance. Indescriminate and unbridled vengeance. Punctuated by war crimes. Probably even genocide. Something both he and several around him have openly advocated in the past and now make little attempt to deny.

Worse still - if that's at all possible - he can quite accurately be accused of extending the slaughter simply to survive in office. Facing a raft of domestic charges when ousted.

Thankfully his regime - again going out of our way to disassociate that cabal from the Jewish people in entirety - are now almost global pariahs with even the US, on whom Israel depends for it's very existence, distancing itself.

Though sadly there still seems vestiges of apologism and support amongst those we might dub 'the usual subjects'...

[Misnomer]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 02 April 2024 - 12:56 PM, said:

The blanket bombing of Germany - as opposed to targets deemed of military importance - was controversial at the time and has since been pretty much discredited.

Indeed many believe it had the effect of hardening rather than destroying public morale.

Furthermore it's beyond absurd to in any way compare WW2 to current events in Gaza. To in any way equate Neyanyahu's knowing targetting of schools, hospitals and aid stations with the Allied campaigns. To in any way suggest the forces at his disposal face a similarly equipped enemy.

To repeat: what Hamas perpetrated on Oct7 was evil. By a terrorist organisation with an equally evil agenda. No one possessing any hint of decency would deny Israel the right to hunt down and bring those responsible to justice. Something their intelligence and military are more than capable of.

However the extreme right wing coalition Netanyahu heads have since pursued vengeance. Indescriminate and unbridled vengeance. Punctuated by war crimes. Probably even genocide. Something both he and several around him have openly advocated in the past and now make little attempt to deny.

Worse still - if that's at all possible - he can quite accurately be accused of extending the slaughter simply to survive in office. Facing a raft of domestic charges when ousted.

Thankfully his regime - again going out of our way to disassociate that cabal from the Jewish people in entirety - are now almost global pariahs with even the US, on whom Israel depends for it's very existence, distancing itself.

Though sadly there still seems vestiges of apologism and support amongst those we might dub 'the usual subjects'...

You forgot the rape, torture and ethnic cleansing by the Russians...

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 02 April 2024 - 12:53 PM, said:

Are we really playing Snell semantics?

You have openly said you support trans (including men identifying as women) using female changing rooms.

I'll let you connect the dots 👍🏿🏳️‍🌈

Changing rooms

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Misnomer, on 02 April 2024 - 12:53 PM, said:

Are we really playing Snell semantics?

You have openly said you support trans (including men identifying as women) using female changing rooms.

I'll let you connect the dots 👍🏿🏳️‍🌈

No, you "connect the dots".

Come on big boy, here you are peddling more smears and accusations, yet once again wriggling and squirming when asked to back them up.

You claimed 'Goku' and his "mentor" (now who could that possibly be...) endorse sex crimes. The same sex crimes you've previously associated with simply being LGBTQ.

So if you really do want adult behaviour (by the way, you were right about not being able to compete with the bloke saying that whilst posting stuff like "Johnny Bellend" - that level of hilarity is way beyond me) post the single example of that happening requested.

Just the one.

Remembering you're the one who really did abuse a fourteen year old lass in that e-mail you insisted you'd never send, of course...

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 02 April 2024 - 01:15 PM

[Misnomer]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 02 April 2024 - 01:14 PM, said:

No, you "connect the dots".

Come on big boy, here you are peddling more smears and accusations, yet once again wriggling and squirming when asked to back them up.

You claimed 'Goku' and his "mentor" (now who could that possibly be...) endorse sex crimes. The same sex crimes you've previously associated with simply being LGBTQ.

So if you really do want adult behaviour (by the way, you were right about not being able to compete with the bloke saying that whilst posting stuff like "Johnny Bellend" - that level of hilarity is way beyond me) post the single example of that happening requested.

Just the one.

Remembering you're the one who really did abuse a fourteen year old lass in that e-mail you insisted you'd never send, of course...

Say again? Please elaborate on the final paragraph, now screenshot. What are you accusing me of?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Misnomer, on 02 April 2024 - 01:25 PM, said:

Say again? Please elaborate on the final paragraph, now screenshot. What are you accusing me of?

I'm not accusing you of anything.

I'm referencing you calling my fourteen year old granddaughter a 'lesbian' in one of those rancid e-mails you sent me.

Though still anonymously of course, always anonymously.

And is the screenshot thing supposed to be some sort of threat? Don't bother, 'cos all the e-mails are still in my inbox for verification.

Now, back to the one example of anyone on here endorsing the sex crimes you seem so obsessed about...

[Misnomer]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 02 April 2024 - 01:33 PM, said:

I'm not accusing you of anything.

I'm referencing you calling my fourteen year old granddaughter a 'lesbian' in one of those rancid e-mails you sent me.

Though still anonymously of course, always anonymously.

And is the screenshot thing supposed to be some sort of threat? Don't bother, 'cos all the e-mails are still in my inbox for verification.

Now, back to the one example of anyone on here endorsing the sex crimes you seem so obsessed about...

No, mate. You've crossed the line with that remark. Child abuser. You're fully aware of the connotations. If your daughter is a lesbian, she's a lesbian; that's not child abuse.

Rancid emails? Be clear to everyone. You sent the emails, not me. I merely replied to you. You took it upon yourself to abuse me and belittle me; I retorted.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Misnomer, on 02 April 2024 - 01:38 PM, said:

No, mate. You've crossed the line with that remark. Child abuser. You're fully aware of the connotations. If your daughter is a lesbian, she's a lesbian; that's not child abuse.

Rancid emails? Be clear to everyone. You sent the emails, not me. I merely replied to you. You took it upon yourself to abuse me and belittle me; I retorted.

It was my granddaughter.

And she isn't.

But you chose to randomly call her the word anyway.

Alongside a torrent of other playground standard - though of course anonymous - insults at myself, the 'BB' membership and mod's.

All of which I'm happy to share if you so choose.

As for "crossing a line", I'll ask once again - please supply one single example of me or anyone else endorsing the crime you repeatedly reference.

It's a simple enough request...

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 02 April 2024 - 02:46 PM