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In Topic: General Election It Is Then...
Yesterday, 03:24 PM
isleaiw1, on 14 June 2024 - 03:05 PM, said:
Speaking of democracy, do you think Farage should be allowed to engage in the leaders debate and discuss immigration with Starmer?
No.
His 'party' has one MP. Who hasn't even faced his constituents since defecting. Same as the Greens who, bizarrely, receive only a fraction of the media attention he does.
And far fewer than either the Scot' Nat's and LD's.
Sunak heads the Government, SKS the Opposition. Democracy dictates they have the right to face off... -
In Topic: General Election It Is Then...
Yesterday, 02:10 PM
Mr Mercury, on 14 June 2024 - 01:57 PM, said:
I?d keep it at 18, although it?s not something I?ve given much thought to.
I?m still scarred by the sight of William Hague at he Tory conference many many years ago!
Heh-heh, good shout.
But here's the thing.
The Tories currently getting their y-fronts into folds over sixteen year olds deciding who's PM allow fifteen year old members to vote in their leadership contests.
In other words kids who hadn't even left school possibly played a part in putting May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak into Number Ten long before the adult electorate had a say.
So next time a member of the party which illegally prorogued Parliament or one of it's massed ranks of mates in the Mail-esque media bleat about democracy, you've every right to shout the word 'hypocrite' straight back at 'em... -
In Topic: General Election It Is Then...
Yesterday, 01:42 PM
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In Topic: General Election It Is Then...
Yesterday, 01:29 PM
isleaiw1, on 14 June 2024 - 09:43 AM, said:
Maybe they've moved on. After all, its not a distinguishing factor for both of the main parties, they both say out means out... right? so this election, between them, its not a distinguishing factor.
I assume you will vote Lib Dem as the only one saying they will take us back in?
But we've a tory party desperate for summat to shout about to in some way slow their slide towards oblivion, alongside contributors who've spent five or more years championing them and a supposedly successful Brexit.
Yet...
As for the LD's, yeah, I find their stance on Europe and a fair percentage of what the Greens are saying quite appealing. However I'm hoping we'll see something along the lines of what New Labour did in '97.
Win a majority by appealing to the centre ground, apply strict financial constraints to stabilise the economy (they were often criticised for paralleling Major's policies), then pursue a more socialist agenda when growth allowed.
Oh, and as said, re-align with the EU over a period of time...
Mr Mercury, on 14 June 2024 - 12:57 PM, said:
Of course, has I?ve said many times before, the will of the people?.that?s democracy!
Genuine question - how do you feel about sixteen year olds having a say over who runs the country? -
In Topic: General Election It Is Then...
Yesterday, 10:26 AM
Goku, on 14 June 2024 - 09:55 AM, said:
If Brexit had been any sort of success they?d be dining out on it. They?re leaving it well alone for obvious reasons. Shame Labour don?t have the testicular fortitude to broach the subject.
Agreed.
Open goal to me.
Yet SKS's obviously hoping he can attract those unprepared to admit how wrong they've been back to Labour.
Then once in power slowly but surely re-align with Europe in all but name...
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