[Bald magician]

Osborne again, on 01 June 2024 - 03:22 PM, said:

Oh heck, with all this talk of older players, we may get a deal from Saga for the team bus.

I think we all have the ebanks Blake syndrome to a certain degree. Nothing wrong with the right player at the right time. Cookie knows

[Osborne again]

Bald magician, on 01 June 2024 - 08:16 PM, said:

I think we all have the ebanks Blake syndrome to a certain degree. Nothing wrong with the right player at the right time. Cookie knows

It was tongue in cheek comment mate😄. They can all be over thirty for me so long as I keep seeing great football and we bring on some youngsters for when the first team are at bingo 😁.

[trickytrevsfanclub]

Valley Blues, on 01 June 2024 - 05:24 PM, said:

I before E except after C

Whilst correct on this occasion I before E except after C isn?t an actual thing.

[60s 70s Spireite]

trickytrevsfanclub, on 01 June 2024 - 09:11 PM, said:

Whilst correct on this occasion I before E except after C isn?t an actual thing.

Or?. i before e except after c or when sounded as 'a' as in neighbour and weigh

[DIFH]

 Osborne again, on 01 June 2024 - 08:44 PM, said:

It was tongue in cheek comment mate😄. They can all be over thirty for me so long as I keep seeing great football and we bring on some youngsters for when the first team are at bingo 😁.

The club still need that sustainability by player development, we ain?t going to see much of that your way.

[dim view]

 Bald magician, on 01 June 2024 - 08:16 PM, said:

I think we all have the ebanks Blake syndrome to a certain degree. Nothing wrong with the right player at the right time. Cookie knows

Yep. Technically in our current position with our budget we can sign the right player to get the job done, It's not until our next promotion that success becomes increasingly difficult unless successful strategic player development enhances the budget. That said, it's taking shape.

It would be interesting to see a list of historical big transfers out of L2. I think the big money is made from transfers out of L1. It's just a DV theory though whilst I'm bored. Could be bollux.

[Mr Mercury]

 dim view, on 02 June 2024 - 09:09 AM, said:

Yep. Technically in our current position with our budget we can sign the right player to get the job done, It's not until our next promotion that success becomes increasingly difficult unless successful strategic player development enhances the budget. That said, it's taking shape.

It would be interesting to see a list of historical big transfers out of L2. I think the big money is made from transfers out of L1. It's just a DV theory though whilst I'm bored. Could be bollux.

Interesting re your last sentence. I was talking to a Mansfield supporting mate the other day and he said that now they?re in L1 they may be forced to listen to offers for Kiellor-Dunn because the fee offered would be much higher. It may well be his wishful thinking but he said he could push ?1m.

[trickytrevsfanclub]

 60s 70s Spireite, on 01 June 2024 - 09:15 PM, said:

Or?. i before e except after c or when sounded as 'a' as in neighbour and weigh

That doesn?t take into account words like their, leisure, weird etc. Then there are words like species which have the I before the e after a c.

[Osborne again]

 DIFH, on 02 June 2024 - 03:50 AM, said:

The club still need that sustainability by player development, we ain?t going to see much of that your way.

I wasn't advocating using the Chesterfield FC walking football squad mate, and I think I have mentioned bringing players on who are raw but talented. Players like Hobson, Berry and Dobra are hopefully going to be sold on at massive profits eventually. I have been banging on about getting Freckleton on the books if at all possible, because he's a rare find. A left footed centre back with lots of pace is like finding hens teeth. Some of the players mentioned like Liam Cooper would cost an arm and a leg and would probably take up more physio time than a medium sized care home.
We need a blend of youth and experience, but my comments were tongue in cheek.
If I was manager, I'd be like a kid in a sweetshop, so good job I'm not or we'd need the Kirk's to be telephoning their mates.

[dim view]

 Mr Mercury, on 02 June 2024 - 09:39 AM, said:

Interesting re your last sentence. I was talking to a Mansfield supporting mate the other day and he said that now they?re in L1 they may be forced to listen to offers for Kiellor-Dunn because the fee offered would be much higher. It may well be his wishful thinking but he said he could push ?1m.

Don't get me started on K-D.
I would have thought he'd have to have a storming first 3 months to be worth owt like ?1m but a more realistic fee and a sell on is perhaps their best way to benefit. Mind you, they'd need a better negotiator than the half wit that sold Clucas.

[Nitrous Oxide]

 Osborne again, on 02 June 2024 - 10:26 AM, said:

I wasn't advocating using the Chesterfield FC walking football squad mate, and I think I have mentioned bringing players on who are raw but talented. Players like Hobson, Berry and Dobra are hopefully going to be sold on at massive profits

eventually. I have been banging on about getting Freckleton on the books if at all possible, because he's a rare find. A left footed centre back with lots of pace is like finding hens teeth. Some of the players mentioned like Liam Cooper would cost an arm and a leg and would probably take up more physio time than a medium sized care home.
We need a blend of youth and experience, but my comments were tongue in cheek.
If I was manager, I'd be like a kid in a sweetshop, so good job I'm not or we'd need the Kirk's to be telephoning their mates.

Bang on, same for me.
Maybe that's why they've set someone on in the scouting role who can follow the Brentford model. Buying and selling at the most opportune moments.
I'm really interested to see who we move on, just as much as who comes in.
Exciting times ahead, I'm sure.

[60s 70s Spireite]

 Nitrous Oxide, on 02 June 2024 - 10:38 AM, said:

Bang on, same for me.
Maybe that's why they've set someone on in the scouting role who can follow the Brentford model. Buying and selling at the most opportune moments.
I'm really interested to see who we move on, just as much as who comes in.
Exciting times ahead, I'm sure.

Brentford? You mean the ?100M plus the owner has put into the model?

[azul]

 60s 70s Spireite, on 02 June 2024 - 10:49 AM, said:

Brentford? You mean the ?100M plus the owner has put into the model?

I?m glad you pointed that out again as the facts seem to get lost with some of these clubs people hold as shining beacons. To follow the Brentford model, you need a good model and lashings of cash.

It isn?t just about signing wisely and selling cleverly. We saw that during the breakup of the L1 Playoff team. You have to have the financial clout/desire to retain your best players and build from there. Bournemouth did exactly that but it cost millions upon millions and that?s before they started to add to the squad.

This post has been edited by azul: 02 June 2024 - 11:26 AM

[60s 70s Spireite]

 azul, on 02 June 2024 - 11:26 AM, said:

I?m glad you pointed that out again as the facts seem to get lost with some of these clubs people hold as shining beacons. To follow the Brentford model, you need a good model and lashings of cash.

It isn?t just about signing wisely and selling cleverly. We saw that during the breakup of the L1 Playoff team. You have to have the financial clout/desire to retain your best players and build from there. Bournemouth did exactly that but it cost millions upon millions and that?s before they started to add to the squad.

Yup. You may as well say Wrexham is a great model.. Hollywood cash galore is all you need.

Exeter do seem to be new Crewe, recruiting kids at a young age, along with other young player cast offs, and selling them for substantial fees. Can they do this because they are so far away from a Premier League club?

[Osborne again]

 60s 70s Spireite, on 02 June 2024 - 01:38 PM, said:

Yup. You may as well say Wrexham is a great model.. Hollywood cash galore is all you need.

Exeter do seem to be new Crewe, recruiting kids at a young age, along with other young player cast offs, and selling them for substantial fees. Can they do this because they are so far away from a Premier League club?

I think that some clubs are very good at picking the right players to develop where others aren't. There's plenty of youngsters let go by Premier League clubs every summer, it's just a case of picking up the right ones to bring on, but that's no easy task.

[DIFH]

Osborne again, on 02 June 2024 - 10:26 AM, said:

I wasn't advocating using the Chesterfield FC walking football squad mate, and I think I have mentioned bringing players on who are raw but talented. Players like Hobson, Berry and Dobra are hopefully going to be sold on at massive profits eventually. I have been banging on about getting Freckleton on the books if at all possible, because he's a rare find. A left footed centre back with lots of pace is like finding hens teeth. Some of the players mentioned like Liam Cooper would cost an arm and a leg and would probably take up more physio time than a medium sized care home.
We need a blend of youth and experience, but my comments were tongue in cheek.
If I was manager, I'd be like a kid in a sweetshop, so good job I'm not or we'd need the Kirk's to be telephoning their mates.

Kirk?s ain?t daft when it comes to money, you?d be crying on the sweatshop doorstep I?m afraid.