[Benno Spire]

Spire-Power, on 26 May 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

Agree that the solution is for someone to buy the club. Think I read that AC has indicated it will be 2 years before that happens. If I got that right has he explained why it might be 2 years?

Everything under the carpet will need to be cleaned up

[Wooden Spoon]

Nitrous Oxide, on 22 May 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

Very interesting post Z. Just what have we become.

Ask the court jester, he seems to have all of the answers

[Spire-Power]

Benno Spire, on 26 May 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Everything under the carpet will need to be cleaned up

But has he said why it might be 2 years?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Spire-Power, on 26 May 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

Agree that the solution is for someone to buy the club. Think I read that AC has indicated it will be 2 years before that happens. If I got that right has he explained why it might be 2 years?

Here's his actual quote (I'm guessing the strange grammer was down to his device): 'DA does now not expect to seep whilst we are in League 2 so that is at least one more year, then let's see, but that is a long way off. We may stay in this league for. Ore than one season.'

I interpret that as either AC or DA himself linking any sale to a return to L1.

Credible? Or as unrealistic as his current asking price.

Or, at the risk of Ashley once again accusing me of negativity, are we merely witnessing an owner with no intention of selling whatsoever...

[Nitrous Oxide]

a kick in the balls, on 26 May 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Ask the court jester, he seems to have all of the answers

Like most on here, I'm blocked on twitter, guess that's because I'm on here.

[Nitrous Oxide]

Probably had holiday booked and nobody bothered to ask.

[dim view]

MDCCCLXVI, on 26 May 2017 - 07:20 PM, said:

Here's his actual quote (I'm guessing the strange grammer was down to his device): 'DA does now not expect to seep whilst we are in League 2 so that is at least one more year, then let's see, but that is a long way off. We may stay in this league for. Ore than one season.'

I interpret that as either AC or DA himself linking any sale to a return to L1.

Credible? Or as unrealistic as his current asking price.

Or, at the risk of Ashley once again accusing me of negativity, are we merely witnessing an owner with no intention of selling whatsoever...

Ashley is Tom Hagen.
His recent activity suggests he is legitimising the business

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Spire-Power, on 26 May 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

Agree that the solution is for someone to buy the club. Think I read that AC has indicated it will be 2 years before that happens. If I got that right has he explained why it might be 2 years?

Clean books would be my guess

[azul]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 30 May 2017 - 04:35 PM, said:

Clean books would be my guess

Why would any buyer be bothered about historic accounts?

[moondog]

azul, on 30 May 2017 - 04:54 PM, said:

Why would any buyer be bothered about historic accounts?

The owner has created a problem for himself as the club is potentially far more profitable than the the recent accounts suggest, hence his asking price. Go back further pre CT being appointed and the "historic" accounts show the club had greater control over its costs. Comparing the historic accounts v the recent and the reasons behind the cost increases become apparent, this appears to be something DA is so desperate to avoid he'd rather keep the club for a couple more years.

[60s 70s Spireite]

azul, on 30 May 2017 - 04:54 PM, said:

Why would any buyer be bothered about historic accounts?

Because they tell a story, a story worth knowing for the buyer. They tell trends, errors, lucky gains, unlucky losses, bad decisions that can be corrected, some that can't. Ad infinitum.

[Looker-on]

azul, on 30 May 2017 - 04:54 PM, said:

Why would any buyer be bothered about historic accounts?

If significant issues are found in any examination of the historic accounts it will weaken the seller's position.

[Mr Mercury]

azul, on 30 May 2017 - 04:54 PM, said:

Why would any buyer be bothered about historic accounts?

It would be like buying a used car and not asking to see the service history, log book etc..

[DIFH]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 30 May 2017 - 04:35 PM, said:

Clean books would be my guess

Be very interesting to see what this season brings and how that affects the accounts.

[dim view]

Benno Spire, on 26 May 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Everything under the carpet will need to be cleaned up

Ashley has a dilemma and that is the Liquidator's Report.

If it is suppressed then whoever paid the Liquidator his fee will be suspected of applying pressure.
If it is a whitewash then Ashley knows the conclusions can be blown away by evidence in our hands.
If it exposes the truth then the links between DS business and CFC business, especially payroll, will come out.

So just when Ashley is about to take the 'Chris Turner's Fault' bin bag to the tip, he's hoping his new leaf has been tuned over, he's coaxed some very influential sceptics back to the fold ....we start all over again.

He'd be better off lancing the boil now and coming clean.

I think the report is due in August. Is that right 60-70s Spireite?

This post has been edited by dim view: 22 June 2017 - 09:29 AM

[CFC91]

For an idiot explain to me what supressed and whitewash mean in this particular context please?

This post has been edited by CFC91: 22 June 2017 - 10:06 AM

[dim view]

CFC91, on 22 June 2017 - 09:50 AM, said:

For an idiot explain to be what supressed and whitewash mean in this particular context please?

supressed means delayed indefinitely.
whitewash means biased, unfair, one sided.

[CFC91]

dim view, on 22 June 2017 - 09:57 AM, said:

supressed means delayed indefinitely.
whitewash means biased, unfair, one sided.

Cheers. Which of those outcomes would be most favourable for the fans, AC and LS?

[dim view]

CFC91, on 22 June 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

Cheers. Which of those outcomes would be most favourable for the fans, AC and LS?

I don't give a s**t about Sutcliffe.

Ashley faces the possibility of a major critical report being published just at the time when he wants everybody to get behind the team. His first thought might be to either suppress it or sex it up.

I'd advise him to deal with it before the end of July. He knows the level of integration between the CFC and DS businesses. He knows whether the published CFC accounts were a true reflection. He knows why the DS paid CFC employees.

[moondog]

dim view, on 22 June 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

Ashley has a dilemma and that is the Liquidator's Report.

If it is suppressed then whoever paid the Liquidator his fee will be suspected of applying pressure.
If it is a whitewash then Ashley knows the conclusions can be blown away by evidence in our hands.
If it exposes the truth then the links between DS business and CFC business, especially payroll, will come out.

So just when Ashley is about to take the 'Chris Turner's Fault' bin bag to the tip, he's hoping his new leaf has been tuned over, he's coaxed some very influential sceptics back to the fold ....we start all over again.

He'd be better off lancing the boil now and coming clean.

I think the report is due in August. Is that right 60-70s Spireite?

AC says he's not paid anybody anything as it's nothing to do with him.