Scotland's Hate Crime Law
#1
Posted 09 April 2024 - 09:18 AM
Will Labour introduce something similar....
https://youtu.be/28e...pMmdLRjSQPis7WN
#2
Posted 09 April 2024 - 08:06 PM
The sad part of all this left wing bigots race to criminalise those who don’t agree with them is that people who are genuinely affected and abused by real hate speech just get swallowed up in all the mass numbers and lost in the mess. At least the Irish could vote on a similar bill in Ireland and it sent Varadka packing, it’ll certainly help Labour North of the border and in some perverse way, Labour lefties will coo about the law, yet willingly lap up the votes of those who vehemently disagree with it.
Will Labour, when they become the biggest party in Scotland, have the balls to stand up to the bigots, and over turn it?
Of course they won’t, because as we all know, left wing bigotry is the ok form of bigotry!
This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 09 April 2024 - 08:20 PM
#3
Posted 10 April 2024 - 06:09 AM
Mr Mercury, on 09 April 2024 - 08:06 PM, said:
The sad part of all this left wing bigots race to criminalise those who don’t agree with them is that people who are genuinely affected and abused by real hate speech just get swallowed up in all the mass numbers and lost in the mess. At least the Irish could vote on a similar bill in Ireland and it sent Varadka packing, it’ll certainly help Labour North of the border and in some perverse way, Labour lefties will coo about the law, yet willingly lap up the votes of those who vehemently disagree with it.
Will Labour, when they become the biggest party in Scotland, have the balls to stand up to the bigots, and over turn it?
Of course they won’t, because as we all know, left wing bigotry is the ok form of bigotry!
I thought it was the right that was supposed to be stoking up culture wars?
#4
Posted 10 April 2024 - 08:41 AM
Mr Mercury, on 09 April 2024 - 08:06 PM, said:
The sad part of all this left wing bigots race to criminalise those who don’t agree with them is that people who are genuinely affected and abused by real hate speech just get swallowed up in all the mass numbers and lost in the mess. At least the Irish could vote on a similar bill in Ireland and it sent Varadka packing, it’ll certainly help Labour North of the border and in some perverse way, Labour lefties will coo about the law, yet willingly lap up the votes of those who vehemently disagree with it.
Will Labour, when they become the biggest party in Scotland, have the balls to stand up to the bigots, and over turn it?
Of course they won’t, because as we all know, left wing bigotry is the ok form of bigotry!
Spot on!
And let's not forget: nationalism is ok in Scotland and Wales, but not in England. If you're a nationalist in England, you're a xenophobic, racist, bigot.
And don't even think about flying the cross of St George...but rainbow flags, Pakistan flags, and Palestinian flags, they're perfectly fine 👍🏿
#5
Posted 10 April 2024 - 09:06 AM
#6
Posted 10 April 2024 - 11:54 AM
Leaves….
#7
Posted 10 April 2024 - 07:44 PM
I can only imagine the numbers if a similar law was ever brought in in England.
https://news.sky.com...nfirms-13112153
This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 10 April 2024 - 07:46 PM
#8
Posted 10 April 2024 - 08:20 PM
calvin plummers socks, on 10 April 2024 - 11:54 AM, said:
Leaves….
Make that 4 after that post.
#10
Posted 11 April 2024 - 08:14 PM
I'll let folk decide for themselves who's Lawrence Fox, who's Dan Wootton and who's 'Thirty Pee' Lee...
#11
Posted 11 April 2024 - 08:25 PM
The Earl of Chesterfield, on 11 April 2024 - 08:14 PM, said:
I'll let folk decide for themselves who's Lawrence Fox, who's Dan Wootton and who's 'Thirty Pee' Lee...
Why has it?
What’s been posted that’s not a genuine opinion of how this the law is so hard to enforce and has so many holes in it?
Can you give me three reasons why?
The link to the initial video sums it up perfectly, have u watched it and seen how ridiculous the law is and easy to abuse? Thankfully I’ll side with JKR and Sharon Davies and not the 97% of bigots who made spurious reports that weren't deemed “hate speech”.
A genuine debate on a ludicrous law and some posters just can’t, well debate, and resort to name calling! Pathetic.
#12
Posted 11 April 2024 - 08:37 PM
Blimey - this topic's quickly turned into a 'BB' version of GeeBeebies.
I'll let folk decide for themselves who's Lawrence Fox, who's Dan Wootton and who's 'Thirty Pee' Lee...
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Love Geebeebies....kinda like LBCeebies, but with less of the smug to##er and smarmy w###er....
And we all know who wants to be James O'Brien 👍🏿🏳️🌈
This post has been edited by Misnomer: 11 April 2024 - 08:38 PM
#13
Posted 11 April 2024 - 08:55 PM
Mr Mercury, on 11 April 2024 - 08:25 PM, said:
What’s been posted that’s not a genuine opinion of how this the law is so hard to enforce and has so many holes in it?
Can you give me three reasons why?
The link to the initial video sums it up perfectly, have u watched it and seen how ridiculous the law is and easy to abuse? Thankfully I’ll side with JKR and Sharon Davies and not the 97% of bigots who made spurious reports that weren't deemed “hate speech”.
A genuine debate on a ludicrous law and some posters just can’t, well debate, and resort to name calling! Pathetic.
Because, he can't actually discuss it; it goes against his extremist ideology. He supports it. And the only way he can respond is, sneers and attempted ridicule of those who want to critique and debate it. Weak as pi##.... textbook Snell.
#14
Posted 12 April 2024 - 06:21 PM
Well almost. Ok I didn't get to stamp 'coming over here' but I reckon that I'd got the rest of the Dailt Mail's cut and paste bingo card.
#15
Posted 12 April 2024 - 06:48 PM
dart in the crossbar, on 12 April 2024 - 06:21 PM, said:
Well almost. Ok I didn't get to stamp 'coming over here' but I reckon that I'd got the rest of the Dailt Mail's cut and paste bingo card.
I'm just chuckling at exactly the same characters who go ga-ga over Gaza Lineker offering opinions now celebrating JK Rowling and Sharon Davies doing the same.
Is the 'right wing hypocrisy' box ticked on your card....?
#16
Posted 28 April 2024 - 12:00 PM
dart in the crossbar, on 12 April 2024 - 06:21 PM, said:
Well almost. Ok I didn't get to stamp 'coming over here' but I reckon that I'd got the rest of the Dailt Mail's cut and paste bingo card.
Got to love you two...the smugness and self-righteousness is truly nauseating. Absolutely zero attempt to discuss the issue. Just throw in the condescending and highly predictable right-wing smeer, and disappear.
It's a valid topic, one you have chosen to mock. A topic that has now seen Humza fighting for his political future, as he receives a vote of no confidence; not from ordinary folk but, from his Parliamentary peers....who, I'm guessing, you also think you are above?
I have to ask. What makes your opinion more important than anyone else's?
#17
Posted 28 April 2024 - 01:22 PM
Misnomer, on 28 April 2024 - 12:00 PM, said:
It's a valid topic, one you have chosen to mock. A topic that has now seen Humza fighting for his political future, as he receives a vote of no confidence; not from ordinary folk but, from his Parliamentary peers....who, I'm guessing, you also think you are above?
I have to ask. What makes your opinion more important than anyone else's?
He badly needs the support of the one Alba MSP, Ash Regan, to maybe survive, a person who he said was “no great loss to the SNP”.
Ms Regan is apparently demanding he move away from identity politics and accept the findings of the Cass gender treatment review and invest properly in public services.
#18
Posted 01 May 2024 - 02:27 PM
Mr Mercury, on 11 April 2024 - 08:25 PM, said:
What’s been posted that’s not a genuine opinion of how this the law is so hard to enforce and has so many holes in it?
Can you give me three reasons why?
The link to the initial video sums it up perfectly, have u watched it and seen how ridiculous the law is and easy to abuse? Thankfully I’ll side with JKR and Sharon Davies and not the 97% of bigots who made spurious reports that weren't deemed “hate speech”.
A genuine debate on a ludicrous law and some posters just can’t, well debate, and resort to name calling! Pathetic.
The 97% of bigots were - as it turns out - largely opponents of the law, deliberately making daft accusations in order to waste police time and make the whole thing unworkable. The rate of reports had fallen by 74% by the second week of April.
It's not about name calling; the law might need a bit of tinkering but it's actually a good, sensible one designed to protect innocent people from bullies. "Freedom of speech" is no more a human right than "freedom of action". If A breaks in and sets B's house on fire out of hatred then that's illegal, but the culture warriors of the right think it should be entirely legal to encourage A to do so, or to create an environment in which A thinks his/her action is justified.
As usual, the whole thing has turned into a trans/anti-trans argument, as if this is the only subject worth debating. I see no reason why both sides shouldn't just stop insulting and threatening each other & learn to live together in peace.
I also see no reason why people living outside Scotland can't manage to mind their own business. The SNP/Green alliance (RIP) was democratically elected by Scottish voters - including me - and isn't able to make laws that affect the whole of the UK. What happens at Holyrood has no impact on the people of Chesterfield at all. Carry on trolling, if that's your bag; it's perfectly legal in Derbyshire.
This post has been edited by Arnold Tabbs: 01 May 2024 - 02:28 PM
#19
Posted 01 May 2024 - 02:36 PM
Arnold Tabbs, on 01 May 2024 - 02:27 PM, said:
It's not about name calling; the law might need a bit of tinkering but it's actually a good, sensible one designed to protect innocent people from bullies. "Freedom of speech" is no more a human right than "freedom of action". If A breaks in and sets B's house on fire out of hatred then that's illegal, but the culture warriors of the right think it should be entirely legal to encourage A to do so, or to create an environment in which A thinks his/her action is justified.
As usual, the whole thing has turned into a trans/anti-trans argument, as if this is the only subject worth debating. I see no reason why both sides shouldn't just stop insulting and threatening each other & learn to live together in peace.
I also see no reason why people living outside Scotland can't manage to mind their own business. The SNP/Green alliance (RIP) was democratically elected by Scottish voters - including me - and isn't able to make laws that affect the whole of the UK. What happens at Holyrood has no impact on the people of Chesterfield at all. Carry on trolling, if that's your bag; it's perfectly legal in Derbyshire.
Regarding your last paragraph, I skipped though the other parts, the vast majority of posts by people in this section, whether Left political view or a Right political view are opinions on subjects that has very little effect on folks day to day lives but we can still voice an opinion on it, or would you like that banning as well. And as for trolling and not “minding your own buisness” I could argue that’s what you’ve just done!
This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 01 May 2024 - 02:38 PM
#20
Posted 01 May 2024 - 03:21 PM