Academy Efl Question about academy
#1
Posted 23 January 2024 - 09:55 PM
It’s not compulsory though.
So I was wondering if anyone is in the know, or whether there’s any news on whether the club would like to get proper EFL EPPP Academy status and funding again if/when we get promoted?
#2
Posted 23 January 2024 - 10:05 PM
#3
Posted 23 January 2024 - 10:11 PM
And if you do become a funded EFL academy, if I’m not mistaken, if another academy comes in for one of your kids, they have to compensate you at around £25000 for every year the youngster has been in your academy
#4
Posted 23 January 2024 - 10:16 PM
#5
Posted 23 January 2024 - 10:25 PM
CrookedView, on 23 January 2024 - 10:11 PM, said:
And if you do become a funded EFL academy, if I’m not mistaken, if another academy comes in for one of your kids, they have to compensate you at around £25000 for every year the youngster has been in your academy
Go on then, how many academy products have we developed and sold for a decent fee in the last 50 years?
As I said; anyone decent round here will be hoovered up by bigger clubs such as the deedar two
#6
Posted 23 January 2024 - 10:33 PM
Lose a player older than 14 and you get a minimum of £25000 for every year you’ve had the player
If it’s a kid you’ve already offered an apprenticeship to, you get even more.
If the player goes on to make first team appearances eleswhehe you get even more
I think it’s changed for the better since we were last in it, which is why I’m keen for us to get it back
Yeah it might be peanuts for a Prem club, but to us that peanut could be very beneficial
They’re a kid at Mansfield who is 15 at Mansfield that Leicester and Forest are interested in. I’ve heard that they are jostling to get him with compensation figures of over £300,000 being discussed
You definitely need a good academy manager that knows what they are doing, but there’s good money to be made by unearthing young players that bigger clubs will throw some money at to take a chance
#7
Posted 18 March 2024 - 11:28 AM
The academy already plays games against EFL academies in-between their grassroots games. By going back to the EFL they get the opportunity to be in the EFL academy fixture games schedule which can only be a good thing. Hearing that once you are in that, you also get access to players who get released by the top clubs at U16 to bring into your youth teams. We've all seen players that have slipped through the net only to then make good careers after being picked up by lower league football clubs. It can only be a positive for us.
#8
Posted 18 March 2024 - 12:00 PM
#9
Posted 20 March 2024 - 05:11 PM
#10
Posted 21 March 2024 - 08:51 AM
Cartman, on 23 January 2024 - 10:25 PM, said:
As I said; anyone decent round here will be hoovered up by bigger clubs such as the deedar two
Jordan Bowery. 1/2 million quid. Would have paid for running the academy for 5 years alone without any external funding.
Add Tendai Darwika but I don't know how much Burnley paid.
This post has been edited by born in 1866: 21 March 2024 - 09:23 AM
#11
Posted 22 March 2024 - 12:25 AM
Cartman, on 23 January 2024 - 10:25 PM, said:
As I said; anyone decent round here will be hoovered up by bigger clubs such as the deedar two
Will Russ in 2018, undisclosed fee with sell ons depending on how well he does
He signed for Southport in January, having left Leicester in 2021 for Fleetwood, so I imagine little to nothing coming
#12
Posted 22 March 2024 - 01:05 AM
born in 1866, on 21 March 2024 - 08:51 AM, said:
Add Tendai Darwika but I don't know how much Burnley paid.
Soccerbase says £550,000 for Darikwa.
#13
Posted 22 March 2024 - 12:04 PM
born in 1866, on 21 March 2024 - 08:51 AM, said:
Add Tendai Darwika but I don't know how much Burnley paid.
Bowery came from Derby County and Darwika came from Notts County
And even then that’s only 2 in the last 25 years with hardly any academy graduates ever making significant first team appearances
Unless it’s fully funded from elsewhere it’s a waste of money
#14
Posted 22 March 2024 - 06:21 PM
Edit, come to think of it, I don't think we got a fee there, with us being non league if a remember right?
This post has been edited by spireitetoo: 22 March 2024 - 06:23 PM
#16
Posted 22 March 2024 - 07:02 PM
#17
Posted 22 March 2024 - 07:08 PM
born in 1866, on 21 March 2024 - 08:51 AM, said:
Not a chance.
IIRC based on the figures that I saw, our academy / youth team costs were circa £400K+ pa. Perhaps Moondog will confirm.
#19
Posted 22 March 2024 - 07:56 PM
CrookedView, on 23 January 2024 - 09:55 PM, said:
It’s not compulsory though.
So I was wondering if anyone is in the know, or whether there’s any news on whether the club would like to get proper EFL EPPP Academy status and funding again if/when we get promoted?
Would I be right to assume that you will have some skin in the game if the academy was to return?
In an ideal world, the funding should help clubs develop homegrown talent that go on to become established professional footballers. You only have to consider the number of players that have gone through our system and made the grade to appreciate that it's a rarity. As I see it, rather than developing footballers, the funding enables clubs to employ more coaches and more staff.
Sadly, the funding is open to abuse despite being audited. In some cases, clubs have been known to misappropriate funds to support other areas of the business that are unconnected to academy/youth development.