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hilly81, on 23 September 2016 - 02:34 PM, said:
Stuart Hutcheson Ha ha needing to be bailed out yet you insist on putting a positive spin on its creation
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Michael Pearson great news.
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Les Ashmore To say that Such as Tendayi Darikwa came from the venture is proof enough of it's value and let's hope for many more
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Stuart Hutcheson I didn't realise Chris Turners troubled venture had been in operation since before 2010...
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Les Ashmore Well from the look of your posts mate you dont realise a few things, When Professionals like Sir Rodney Walker make a statement like " I am delighted to be associated with the new FBT International Academy and for it to have its home in Chesterfield. I...See More
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Stuart Hutcheson So Tendayi was a product of a venture than was incorporated years after he made his professional debut.....
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Les Ashmore He came from Chesterfield mate that alone is enough for me, and I hope a lot more will but from inside the academy
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John Stevenson Les Tendayi was a product of Notts county then CFC signed him 2010 on a pro contract then loaned him to Barrow.
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Les Ashmore I am well aware of that John as you are also aware of me knowing
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John Stevenson Well that's confusing you said he was a product of the academy
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Stuart Hutcheson So why claim he was a product of this failed venture then??
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Les Ashmore Because I wanted to Simples, Why did you try and ridicule my post? Probably because you wanted to
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Stuart Hutcheson Ok Les, you win. You can't discuss certain subjects with some people I guess
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Les Ashmore Correct my Friend, I prefer to look at things positively, You decided to try to make fun of it and I cannot understand what pleasure some people get out of trying to ridicule somebody or something, It is a Fact that this is a fantastic move for Chester...See More
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John Stevenson I do know you Les and you have always been fine with me but thought it was a genuine error on your part re TD
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Stuart Hutcheson Theres having a positive outlook and there's being so blinkered that you can't see (or choose to ignore) the bigger picture.
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Les Ashmore Stuart Hutcheson there are non so blind as those who cannot see, try specsavers my friend
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Stuart Hutcheson Oh I see plenty Les.
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Les Ashmore But only what you want to?
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Stuart Hutcheson Ha ha ha that's priceless
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Les Ashmore Stuart Hutcheson you mention seeing the bigger picture, what's gone has gone end of, the bigger picture now if you can't see it is that a man and an organisation who cannot be ignored as being of very high standards is now a 50% owner of the academy and I can see nothing but giving a credible name to all it does ��⚽️
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Stuart Hutcheson Well I'll have to agree with you, it's certainly been lacking in credibility
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Les Ashmore Thank you, so now you see what my original post was intended for, the past no matter which opinion or allegations you wish to follow is gone and will never return no matter what is done or said, so please let us concentrate on the future ⚽️⚽️��
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Stuart Hutcheson No, I only agreed that the whole debacle lacked credibility...
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Les Ashmore Well contact Sir Rodney and tell him that
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Stuart Hutcheson So you are happy with how the centre has been run??
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Les Ashmore I care not of the past and look to the future
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Les Ashmore If people can post things like were posted that is BUll***t I do not se any reason why I can't join them
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Stuart Hutcheson Oh dear, doesn't really make for a very strong argument though does it. Perhaps even makes you look ever so slightly silly even
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Les Ashmore My sentiment precisely
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Mark Hill The success of this kind of venture can only be measured in pros produced. So far it's zero. Let's judge its success in 5 years time. If it doesn't go bust.
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Les Ashmore I wouldn't say that is totally true Mark as Curtiss Morrison, Derek Daly, are now pros with contracts, also from what I understand there are extremely High hopes for Iffy Ofoegbu, I saw him play a couple of times and he is extremely good in my opinion,...See More
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Mark Hill I stand to be corrected, but Morrison and Daly both came through Mark Smiths academy and were nothing to do with the International Academy, PPP, CFDDSS or whatever it is called? It may be unlikely with the financial backing it now has but if the same person or people are sailing the ship that got it £77k in the red in the first place? Time will tell.
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Les Ashmore I understand that all the staff are staying and also I am led to understand that internally the Academy is all the same ie no CFC Academy or PPP or International, I believe that the Financial side and Accounting are being carried out by Sir Rodneys Staff
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Eric Lowe I find this Academy situation thing very complicated...one pro who we were close to started his road to playing professional football, playing in his school team .playing for his county then youth side for Leicester, then given pro terms reserve side then loans and finally a league player...
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Les Ashmore I think it is a change of times Eric, That was back when pros didn't have or need Agents, Nowadays if they go through an Academy I think they have first claim to them so in effect have first claim on any fee, Maybe?
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Unlike · Reply · 2 · Yesterday at 12:54pm
Michael Pearson great news.
Like · Reply · 1 · Yesterday at 3:08pm
Les Ashmore To say that Such as Tendayi Darikwa came from the venture is proof enough of it's value and let's hope for many more
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
Stuart Hutcheson I didn't realise Chris Turners troubled venture had been in operation since before 2010...
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
Les Ashmore Well from the look of your posts mate you dont realise a few things, When Professionals like Sir Rodney Walker make a statement like " I am delighted to be associated with the new FBT International Academy and for it to have its home in Chesterfield. I...See More
Like · Reply · 1 · 22 hrs
Stuart Hutcheson So Tendayi was a product of a venture than was incorporated years after he made his professional debut.....
Like · Reply · 22 hrs · Edited
Les Ashmore He came from Chesterfield mate that alone is enough for me, and I hope a lot more will but from inside the academy
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
John Stevenson Les Tendayi was a product of Notts county then CFC signed him 2010 on a pro contract then loaned him to Barrow.
Like · Reply · 1 · 22 hrs · Edited
Les Ashmore I am well aware of that John as you are also aware of me knowing
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
John Stevenson Well that's confusing you said he was a product of the academy
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
Stuart Hutcheson So why claim he was a product of this failed venture then??
Like · Reply · 1 · 22 hrs
Les Ashmore Because I wanted to Simples, Why did you try and ridicule my post? Probably because you wanted to
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
Stuart Hutcheson Ok Les, you win. You can't discuss certain subjects with some people I guess
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
Les Ashmore Correct my Friend, I prefer to look at things positively, You decided to try to make fun of it and I cannot understand what pleasure some people get out of trying to ridicule somebody or something, It is a Fact that this is a fantastic move for Chester...See More
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
John Stevenson I do know you Les and you have always been fine with me but thought it was a genuine error on your part re TD
Like · Reply · 1 · 22 hrs · Edited
Stuart Hutcheson Theres having a positive outlook and there's being so blinkered that you can't see (or choose to ignore) the bigger picture.
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
Les Ashmore Stuart Hutcheson there are non so blind as those who cannot see, try specsavers my friend
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
Stuart Hutcheson Oh I see plenty Les.
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
Les Ashmore But only what you want to?
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
Stuart Hutcheson Ha ha ha that's priceless
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
Les Ashmore Stuart Hutcheson you mention seeing the bigger picture, what's gone has gone end of, the bigger picture now if you can't see it is that a man and an organisation who cannot be ignored as being of very high standards is now a 50% owner of the academy and I can see nothing but giving a credible name to all it does ��⚽️
Like · Reply · 21 hrs · Edited
Stuart Hutcheson Well I'll have to agree with you, it's certainly been lacking in credibility
Like · Reply · 21 hrs · Edited
Les Ashmore Thank you, so now you see what my original post was intended for, the past no matter which opinion or allegations you wish to follow is gone and will never return no matter what is done or said, so please let us concentrate on the future ⚽️⚽️��
Like · Reply · 21 hrs
Stuart Hutcheson No, I only agreed that the whole debacle lacked credibility...
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Les Ashmore Well contact Sir Rodney and tell him that
Like · Reply · 20 hrs
Stuart Hutcheson So you are happy with how the centre has been run??
Like · Reply · 20 hrs · Edited
Les Ashmore I care not of the past and look to the future
Like · Reply · 20 hrs
Les Ashmore If people can post things like were posted that is BUll***t I do not se any reason why I can't join them
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
Stuart Hutcheson Oh dear, doesn't really make for a very strong argument though does it. Perhaps even makes you look ever so slightly silly even
Like · Reply · 1 · 22 hrs · Edited
Les Ashmore My sentiment precisely
Like · Reply · 22 hrs
Mark Hill The success of this kind of venture can only be measured in pros produced. So far it's zero. Let's judge its success in 5 years time. If it doesn't go bust.
Like · Reply · 17 hrs
Les Ashmore I wouldn't say that is totally true Mark as Curtiss Morrison, Derek Daly, are now pros with contracts, also from what I understand there are extremely High hopes for Iffy Ofoegbu, I saw him play a couple of times and he is extremely good in my opinion,...See More
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Mark Hill I stand to be corrected, but Morrison and Daly both came through Mark Smiths academy and were nothing to do with the International Academy, PPP, CFDDSS or whatever it is called? It may be unlikely with the financial backing it now has but if the same person or people are sailing the ship that got it £77k in the red in the first place? Time will tell.
Like · Reply · 1 · 6 hrs
Les Ashmore I understand that all the staff are staying and also I am led to understand that internally the Academy is all the same ie no CFC Academy or PPP or International, I believe that the Financial side and Accounting are being carried out by Sir Rodneys Staff
Like · Reply · 6 hrs
Eric Lowe I find this Academy situation thing very complicated...one pro who we were close to started his road to playing professional football, playing in his school team .playing for his county then youth side for Leicester, then given pro terms reserve side then loans and finally a league player...
Like · Reply · 4 hrs
Les Ashmore I think it is a change of times Eric, That was back when pros didn't have or need Agents, Nowadays if they go through an Academy I think they have first claim to them so in effect have first claim on any fee, Maybe?
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So the whole post makes me conclude....that Les was talking rubbish about Tendayi coming through our academy.
He'll be claiming credit for Kevin Davies next! At least he was only 15 when he was released by Sheff U....
This post has been edited by brianclose: 23 September 2016 - 02:48 PM
